14 inch barrel = legal?

[Eddie Gunks]

What would the paperwork read on retail sale?... 'other' or 'pistol' or 'shotgun'?

Other. Because that is what it is.

Is this also NY compliant with a fixed 10 round mag (it has a pistol brace)? Or must the vertical foregrip be removed?

FRANKLIN ARMORY™ XO-26-S™

If it is a fixed mag anything goes.

I'm curious, would you transfer the franklin arsenal xo-26? As it comes from the factory, (flash hider, pistol grip, detachable magazine)

No. I do not want to be involved withyhe defense fund for that. I believe you will win but not on my dime.

Why not just build it yourself. It applies to all weapons configured that way.

 

[pmcjuryny]

Other. Because that is what it is.

If it is a fixed mag anything goes.

No. I do not want to be involved withyhe defense fund for that. I believe you will win but not on my dime.

Why not just build it yourself. It applies to all weapons configured that way.

I totally get it, I was just curious what your stance was as an FFL

 

[Snappo]

Mossberg 590® Shockwave | O.F. Mossberg & Sons

14 inch but Mossberg states NFA legal. Is it NY legal?

Easier to just do this to achieve the same basic result. That's the typical camo Mossberg from Herb Phillipsons ($400), then the rest I added from MidwayUSA for maybe $100.

 

[Acer-m14]

how about this ... it has NO barrel .. LOL ..

 

[4excal]

how about this ... it has NO barrel .. LOL ..

LOL

 

[2WheelGnnr]

I saw Hichcock 45 has a video on it and it actually did not look as bad as it sounds to fire it. he seem to be able to handle it just fine.

looks more fun than anything. Id like get one depending on price. add to the safe!!

 

[hoodfu]

I saw Hichcock 45 has a video on it and it actually did not look as bad as it sounds to fire it. he seem to be able to handle it just fine.

It's worth mentioning that the guy is 6'8" and has huge hands. He regularly makes 200 yard gong hits with a Glock 26. He could probably crush it like a walnut if he wanted to.

 

[stuck in ny]

Even if the 14" 12 gage was legal here, I really don't see the point over a normal shotgun. Now, if the current admin could get ruling to weaken the definition of attatched, then it seems like it would be practical as an underbarrel.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Even if the 14" 12 gage was legal here, I really don't see the point over a normal shotgun. Now, if the current admin could get ruling to weaken the definition of attatched, then it seems like it would be practical as an underbarrel.

Uuummm? It is tiny hide under your jacket send a great pattern down your hallway.....whats not to get?

 

[freddy]

.... the definition of attatched, then it seems like it would be practical as an underbarrel.

Will you explain what this means please?

 

[stuck in ny]

Will you explain what this means please?

If they could make it legal to mount like an m203, then it would be useful.

 

[freddy]

Picked one up yesterday (FFL transfer in NY) . Booked not as a shotgun or pistol but as an "other". Sweet! Have not tried it out yet.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Picked one up yesterday (FFL transfer in NY) . Booked not as a shotgun or pistol but as an "other". Sweet! Have not tried it out yet.

Nice!

Now mount it under an ar already.

 

[freddy]

Nice!

Now mount it under an ar already.

Will duct tape suffice?
Or better, do you have a bunch of FUAC stickers?

 

[stuck in ny]

Nice!

Now mount it under an ar already.

Uh, isn't that a no no? Assuming your mounting it to an ar with a stock, would that be constructing an sbs?

 

[freddy]

Uh, isn't that a no no? Assuming your mounting it to an ar with a stock, would that be constructing an sbs?

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

 

[Snappo]

Picked one up yesterday (FFL transfer in NY) . Booked not as a shotgun or pistol but as an "other". Sweet! Have not tried it out yet.

I thought the only time you book something as "other" is when you are trying to import Kaitlyn Jenner to your house.

 

[garyv350]

My local shop got 5 today. 2 sold while I was there.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

My local shop got 5 today. 2 sold while I was there.

Damn. I cant get any!

 

[cgrutt]

Yup. He is a problem. Ignorant and argumentative.

I guess not when the price is right, LMFAO.

 

[freddy]

I guess not when the price is right, LMFAO.

Did you go to Tillson?

 

[Edwardteach72]

Not even going to lie I tried to read this post, but fuck there was just way to much Fudd.

If you are too dumb to understand how this is legal at this point then I'm not sure how you have made it this far in life.

Hell my LGS has sold a bunch of these already, has a letter from the ATF that they are g2g, they even called and talked to NYSP who as well said yeah g2g.

But hey fudds will be fudds I guess

 

[Edwardteach72]

Fun fact buddy of mine just bought one today at the Anti 2A field and stream, so yeah if you had any doubts on the legality that should clear it up

 

[libertysagun]

Bought one 2 months ago and it is a BLAST to shoot. It's not something you want to hold tight to your side but rather hold it low out in front of you.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Good write up on the shockwave style firearms (Remington blah blah or gabe suarezes version and so on)

STAKEOUT - THE MODERN BATTLEAXE


Edit I guess there wasn't a write up

 

[Peter_Tilem_Esq.]

It is legal!
Is the Mossberg Shockwave (and or the Remington Tac-14) Legal in New York? Surprisingly Yes, I Think

 

[freddy]

It is legal!
Is the Mossberg Shockwave (and or the Remington Tac-14) Legal in New York? Surprisingly Yes, I Think

Thank you for this Peter!

Please, what is your opinion on the legality in NYS of the Franklin Armory XO26 R2?
FRANKLIN ARMORY® XO-26™ R2

 

[Marine Cpl]

While I agree with his interpretation, that's all it is. An interpretation. Carrying this in your back pocket is about as useful as carrying a printout of this thread.

 

[the collector 1]

Its Legal, its listed as "other" in NY

 

[Marine Cpl]

Its Legal, its listed as "other" in NY

The designation of "Other" by the ATF on form 4473 means nothing. You have to go by the Penal Law.

With that said, I still believe it to be legal going only by Penal Law 265.