2A Lawsuits and their progress we have here in NY
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nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Seven of fourteen were ratified prior to 1868. I've done a lot of reading on this. And again Scalia mentioned it in Heller.
Bruen upheld that guns can be carried outside of the home. That's the "bear" part. So who cares what sates said you can't at some point in the past. It's meaningless.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I got it but I’m telling you this is what all the legal analysts are predicting this means after the Bruen decision. Maybe they are all wrong and you’re right but I’m going with what I read from 10-15 guys, sorry. The timeframe isn’t set or established to end at 1868, but that’s what many are saying since what the 14 amendment does. That date range may need to be finalized but my point is that many of states constitutions were set up outside of those dates and beyond them meaning those are largely meaningless.
JRtraderny
6.5 Creedmoor
I never said it was in the state constitution. Either way it's there.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Never said anything about "bear" did I? And what States did in the past is just what Bruen requires.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
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ManualF150
.308 Win
It doesn't matter. NY is above the law.
Acer-m14
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"Prohibits the sale of a firearm, rifle, shotgun or ammunition on state property including state and county fairgrounds, and county, city and municipal property; designates offense as a class A misdemeanor."
State and LEO exempt .. you know .. in case they want to do a gun buy back .
NY State Senate Bill 2023-S4911
Prohibits the sale of a firearm, rifle, shotgun or ammunition on state property including state and county fairgrounds, and county, city and municipal property; designates offense as a class A misdemeanor.
Saltwater60
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Then we win right? Case is over and we’re granted everything we asked for right?? HahaNew York Misses Filing Deadline In Antonyuk
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ManualF150
.308 Win
I wish.
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
It means it is our fault and we are fucked. Oh yeah... it's for the children too.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Probably means they will give NY another 6 months to get their shit together.
spat
.950 JDJ
Well, you'll get called a troll if you advocate opinions the majority think are so ridiculous that no intelligent person could possibly hold them honestly.
But, unlike the leftist web sites, you won't get banned for it, or for presenting evidence that questions our worldview.
So you are free to convince people here you're right and we're wrong.
Go on a leftist site like DU and you'll be banned the second you post a link to an article that even suggests men don't menstruate.
maverick52
.223 Rem
They responded. Same nonesense. 3/20 will tell us alot.
spat
.950 JDJ
If we really want that fixed, we need a free state like Texas to simply adopt the NY pistol permitting scheme verbatim and just change references to "guns" to "voter registration".
Let the left spend all the time proving why that stuff is an unconstitutional infringement.
And then remind the courts that in 1791 RKBA was considered a universal human right, but the right to vote was not.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
This is a good analysis of what states do to drag out the gun cases they know they will lose
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
"U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit will be hearing oral argument in 5 pending Second Amendment cases on March 20, 2023. As part of these cases, 2A challenges have been brought against New York State’s ban on firearms in places of worship such as churches and synagogues. The District Attorney for the County of Niagara was sued to enjoin his office from enforcing the law banning guns in places of worship and today he filed a legal brief in the Court of Appeals conceding that the NY law was unconstitutional under the Second Amendment and NYSRPA v. Bruen. Mark Smith breaks it down."
SHOCKING ADMISSION: NY 2A Defendant Admits to US Federal Appeals Court that New Gun Law Violates 2A
Dr. Evil
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subsonic
.44 mag
Can’t stand this guy and his windbag clickbait videos. Keep promoting them!
The Niagara DA is a friendly Republican defendant. It’s the New York State Police that are appealing. The Niagara DA is on the plaintiff’s side against the place of worship ban.
gunpoliticsny
6.5 Creedmoor
Here is a link that you can actually read. The link above pops to the same basic article, but as soon as I touch the mouse, it changes to an ad for this law firm, and you can't actually read the article... WTF?
www.nwahomepage.com
As far as this reported suit goes, I am all in favor of it. They are attacking the NYPD, - including the fact that NY CCW permits issued outside NYC are not valid in NYC. I hope they kick their asses!
Per the article: "In addition, the lawsuit argues that New York City policy and State law which refuse to allow citizens who are licensed outside of New York City to carry and possess firearms inside New York City violates both the Second Amendment and the “full faith and credit” clause of the US Constitution."
CLASS ACTION SUIT FILED AGAINST NYPD FOR DENIAL OF SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS
Second Amendment Attorney Peter H. Tilem, Esq. The NYPD is accused of preventing New Yorker's from exercising their Second Amendment Rights Lawsuit alleges that NYPD delays in issuing gun licenses and refusal to accept other State's licenses amounts to a denial of New Yorker's Constitutional...
www.nwahomepage.com
As far as this reported suit goes, I am all in favor of it. They are attacking the NYPD, - including the fact that NY CCW permits issued outside NYC are not valid in NYC. I hope they kick their asses!
Per the article: "In addition, the lawsuit argues that New York City policy and State law which refuse to allow citizens who are licensed outside of New York City to carry and possess firearms inside New York City violates both the Second Amendment and the “full faith and credit” clause of the US Constitution."
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
If I can carry a gun in NYC my wife will get her wish to go there for vacation.Here is a link that you can actually read. The link above pops to the same basic article, but as soon as I touch the mouse, it changes to an ad for this law firm, and you can't actually read the article... WTF?
CLASS ACTION SUIT FILED AGAINST NYPD FOR DENIAL OF SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS
Second Amendment Attorney Peter H. Tilem, Esq. The NYPD is accused of preventing New Yorker's from exercising their Second Amendment Rights Lawsuit alleges that NYPD delays in issuing gun licenses and refusal to accept other State's licenses amounts to a denial of New Yorker's Constitutional...
As far as this reported suit goes, I am all in favor of it. They are attacking the NYPD, - including the fact that NY CCW permits issued outside NYC are not valid in NYC. I hope they kick their asses!
Per the article: "In addition, the lawsuit argues that New York City policy and State law which refuse to allow citizens who are licensed outside of New York City to carry and possess firearms inside New York City violates both the Second Amendment and the “full faith and credit” clause of the US Constitution."
masterswimmer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Doesn't sound like you'd be at any higher risk than the risk you're at just living on your block at home. Your description sounds like you're already in the hood.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Just recently with the people moving in. The place across the street from me went from a single family to a double. The guy across from me directly will be gone when his mom dies since he won’t keep the house and he’s a loser. I’m sure he has no car or insurance in his name.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
then don't watch it ..
If we ever win the right to carry in NYC without an NYPD endorsed permit, I plan on flying there with one or more of my handguns. Then I will be taking selfies all over the 5 boroughs while wearing a shirt that mocks the CCIA, FUKH, FUAC, the entire legislature,- Hell,- ALL of the anti gunners, and pointing out that I carried there LEGALLY, and that NO ONE was injured or died as a result.
And then I would be posting them all over social media, and encouraging others who also have their non NYPD endorsed NY CCW’s to carry in NYC as well.
To Hell with Whorecul, her unconstitutional BS laws, and the rest of the anti 2A crowd.
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Steal2B
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Take the required 16 hour course and get arrested for the live fire portion