Didnt know Latin America was in Europe
9mm Major
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Didnt know Latin America was in Europe
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I didn’t know so I asked. That was the point of this thread.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Ok. Now you are just being stupid. Read post #5.
Right and I gave a response, saying that 9mm major isnt popular because it's only reason for existing is gaming, and I mentioned how that the it's just like how the .38 super hasn't disappeared from existence... gaming
Competition is the only real thing keeping calibers like these alive
Yup and post 11 on you only talk about Latin America
And if you read my above post you will see the reason something like .38super us so popular in all these countries that ban military calibers for civilians isnt because that's what they all decide to carry, its because thats what the competition shooters are using
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
But it’s not like the .38 Super. The .38 Super is a major caliber in other countries.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
So, what you're really saying is that you want a gun that can shoot a .357sig like load for carry, but also take cheap 9mm for the range.
It does sound attractive. Like .38special and .357mag but for automatics.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You know what Edward? You are either laughing drinking your coffee like a child or you are one of those saving face idiots who doesn’t like to admit that you didn’t know something. I said countries. Whether it’s Europe or Latin America is neither here nor there and not a point worth arguing.
I didn’t know about the Major and asked a question to learn. What is your beef?
Because the .38 super has been around since the 1920s.
The 9mm major wasnt a thing until sometime in the 1990s I believe
Jesus dude your smarter than that. I've literally said it multiple times. The 9mm major is like .38 super in that it's a competition round that's its purpose that's why people shoot it, the .38 super only exists these days because it's a good gaming round and that's what those in ban countries use
What didnt I know? Please dude educate me on what i didnt know on this thread about you not knowing about specific rounds or their intended use?
I'll wait
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yep. It would be hit. You can put it in the .45 Super/SMC able to also shoot the ACP category.
Yes you asked about 9mm major and why it isnt more popular.
I said 9mm major is a niche round that only exists because someone got the bright idea on how to make major power factor with a smaller cartridge so they can jam more rounds into a gun giving them an advantage.
The I went on to explain its only a thing because of the competition world, just like how the. 38 super still exists because it gets the same results, being able to make major power factor without having to be a .40 or .45
Then you go on about how .38super is popular in other countries, and yet you never said why its popularity is the way it is in those countries (which I actually did specifically state why its popular around the world)
But yes please tell me how I am just trying to save face because I'm the one who doesnt know something
If it was a hit why isnt it a hit?
Edit... unless you think this round was invented by John wick
Hell I dont even think 9mm major has been semi spec'd
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Jesus man. You said the Major was like the Super for gaming. 2 people told you that it’s not like the Major at all and is a real adopted caliber in other countries.
Your reply was that it only survived due to gaming which is false. It’s all there if you read back.
So you didn’t know. Then because you didn’t know, you started arguing other stuff and talking in circles as if we were having a voice conversation and could forget what you previously said except it’s all there in text. Read back.
It’s not like the Major at all. Yes the Super is used in competitions but so is a 9mm or a Dillon. That doesn’t make a Dillon the same as a 9mm.
Your reply was that it only survived due to gaming which is false. It’s all there if you read back.
So you didn’t know. Then because you didn’t know, you started arguing other stuff and talking in circles as if we were having a voice conversation and could forget what you previously said except it’s all there in text. Read back.
It’s not like the Major at all. Yes the Super is used in competitions but so is a 9mm or a Dillon. That doesn’t make a Dillon the same as a 9mm.
Not sure why you get so butt hurt everytime I give you an answer that you dont like
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Dumbass.
.38 super only exists today because that's what other countries are using for competition,
9mm major only exists today because of competition
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
No. Not butt hurt at all. Just calling you out on your BS. You answered my question on what a Major is. But then you tried to argue that it’s the same as the Super. It is not.
Holy hell I think you might actually be stupid.
I didnt say the .38 super and 9mm major are the same round.
I said they serve the same purpose, being able to make major power factor without having to be a .40 or .45 caliber bullets. Allowing the shooter to jam more ammo into a magazine..
.38 super being popular over sease in IPSC because of the no 9mm parabellum, and the no .45acp or .40sw. It can be shot in all division under IPSC rules.
I didnt say the .38 super and 9mm major are the same round.
I said they serve the same purpose, being able to make major power factor without having to be a .40 or .45 caliber bullets. Allowing the shooter to jam more ammo into a magazine..
.38 super being popular over sease in IPSC because of the no 9mm parabellum, and the no .45acp or .40sw. It can be shot in all division under IPSC rules.
Again what BS. Or are you trying to say that .38super is popular in latin America because it's the most popular carry caliber in countries that dont allow their citizens to carry guns?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
See you are doing it again or you can’t read. When did I say anything about the .38 Super and the 9mm being the same round? Quote it.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You want to keep going in circles? 3 rd base. How about that? Reread this thread.
When Did I say they were the same thing
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Reread the thread and follow along please. Start at post #1. When you get to the part of 2 people telling you that they aren’t the same type of a caliber as in both being just for gaming, read your next reply where you say that the only reason it exists is for gaming and then stop there.
After that it becomes a shit show.
Holy fuck the only reason it's going in circles is because YOU didnt get the answer you want This is the SKS conversion all over again.
I'll break it down one last time then in out..
1st 9mm major was loaded by some dudes who shoot competition and wanted to make major pf but also load as much ammo in a magazine as they can.
2nd 9mm major is only a thing because of the competition world, just like how .38 super is still around because of the competition world.
Other countries that cant shoot .40sw .45acp or 9mm build their guns around the .38 super, .38 super can be loaded to make major pf, this is how those people can shoot open divisions and get the same scoring as someone who was shooting a .45acp gun
People decided to do something similar here in the US by loading super hot 9mm and called in 9mm major because it made the power factor.. it hasn't taken off because most people shoot USPSA here in the US instead of IPSC (that's the world version that came first)
USPSA made a rule change saying that a major pf gun must be chambered in .40 caliber or .45caliber Making the 9mm major no longer legal for USPSA, but it's still a thing for someone who will shoot IPSC
I'll break it down one last time then in out..
1st 9mm major was loaded by some dudes who shoot competition and wanted to make major pf but also load as much ammo in a magazine as they can.
2nd 9mm major is only a thing because of the competition world, just like how .38 super is still around because of the competition world.
Other countries that cant shoot .40sw .45acp or 9mm build their guns around the .38 super, .38 super can be loaded to make major pf, this is how those people can shoot open divisions and get the same scoring as someone who was shooting a .45acp gun
People decided to do something similar here in the US by loading super hot 9mm and called in 9mm major because it made the power factor.. it hasn't taken off because most people shoot USPSA here in the US instead of IPSC (that's the world version that came first)
USPSA made a rule change saying that a major pf gun must be chambered in .40 caliber or .45caliber Making the 9mm major no longer legal for USPSA, but it's still a thing for someone who will shoot IPSC
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And this is false. I told you and Kev told you.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
And now... A pictorial representation of this thread.
Yes because you cant understand what is going on.
They arent the same as in back in the 1920s someone created .38super, it has a SAAMI spec, .38super almost died off because original designs and guns kinda sucked.
It was saved by the competition world and hand built custom guns, mainly in the european leagues.
9mm major is a niche round specifically designed for competition see all the posts that I've explained that in that you ignore.
They are the same in the sense it's two calibers being used to achieve the same goal, both of which are for a relatively small group of shooters
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Except they aren’t the same because the Super is a real caliber. Defensive ammo is made for it and it’s a fielded caliber in other countries.
If you were to compare the Major to the Dillon and say that they are the same, that would be correct since they are both used mostly for competition and neither is a fielded caliber.