Active Shooter Mandalay Bay

[gun_slinger_boy]

I was just reading a post on this forum and realized that reading comprehension just isn't the posters thing. You offer up some possibilities and he reads it as something you are declaring as fact all the while doing the same exact thing but too stupid to even realize it. He thinks only his theories (not in the scientific but colloquial usage) can be considered. He isn't familiar with special pleading.

 

[holdover]

I suppose that's why nobody agrees with your opinions?

 

[holdover]

The difference between my posts and yours is that mine is based off of the evidence, I don't make the claim that he was irrational when nobody he ever knew ever said such a thing . His actions were well thought out and preplanned, according to the police ( see how that works?) its based upon what the police told us .I don't make the claim that he was depressed or angry, or drunk or irrational.

Using shooting formulas on an automatic rifle to shoot into a huge crowd is not consistent with a well thought out plan. You cant have it both ways ,

 

[holdover]

""Maybe the calculations were for the vehicle with tannerite? And then he got up there and whoops can't shoot it.""-gun_slinger_boy


Whoops ,maybe you should read more about the case


Last Updated Oct 6, 2017 4:48 PM EDT

The Las Vegas gunman's car may have been primed to explode in an escape, CBS News justice and homeland security correspondent Jeff Pegues reports.

Law enforcement sources say there were at least 1,000 rounds of ammunition in a suitcase and Tannerite in a duffle bag inside the vehicle. It was in a parking garage, and investigators are trying to figure out how integral it was to Stephen Paddock's plan. Tannerite, used in target shooting, explodes when hit by rifle fire

Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock's vehicle may have been primed to explode

Guess the calculations were'nt meant for his car, maybe they were for the reptile people? or the zebras, Maybe you should read a little more about the details of the case before making stupid comments like that.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I was just reading a post on this forum and realized that reading comprehension just isn't the posters thing. You offer up some possibilities and he reads it as something you are declaring as fact all the while doing the same exact thing but too stupid to even realize it. He thinks only his theories (not in the scientific but colloquial usage) can be considered. He isn't familiar with special pleading.

I could see that poster using the "evidence" he doesn't agree with and thinks is a conspiracy to argue his points lol. Unbelievable smh. You know the old saying. You can't have it both ways.

 

[holdover]

What evidence did you provide ? You made a statement with nothing to back it up .Provide some evidence for your Ideas based on the information the police have released and we can have a discussion like adults .Maybe he was shooting at cars is pointless bullshit. provide a valid reason for your ideas and we can have a discussion

 

[freddy]

Maybe the calculations were for the vehicle with tannerite? And then he got up there and whoops can't shoot it. There were some "famous" people on stage. Maybe he wanted to assassinate one and didn't? It's hard to say what was going through his head. He my have been extremely irrational leading up to and through all of this. There are so many possibilities but some can only think conspiracy because their simple minds can't come up with other possibilities. Either that or they so badly want the narrative not to fit so there is someone else to blame. Or both. Let's be honest. In a years time or however long it takes to get the story out, these same people will say that is a conspiracy as well. And this thread will never die like the undead thread that it is.

100%

 

[freddy]

Are you fucking for real? Have you ever fired an automatic weapon before? No, it makes no sense whatsoever, ask anybody on this forum . It will do you absolutely no good when firing on full auto and even less so firing a piece of shit bump stock. Thats common knowledge to 99% of the people who shoot . that's not my opinion , that's a fact. Your alone on this one man.

You also believe he brought a computer with out a hard drive to his room , since the police said it was missing , (and not lost) he could not have hidden it in his hotel room , so he must have brought a computer that didn't work to his room according to you and the police.

The guy planned out months in advance to bring a computer which couldn't work ? Is that what your telling me? He would have had to remove the hard drive before he took the computer into the room or the hardrive would have been in the room .

Dude, it doesn't have to make sense to you. Only needs to make sense to the killer.

 

[freddy]

I was just reading a post on this forum and realized that reading comprehension just isn't the posters thing. You offer up some possibilities and he reads it as something you are declaring as fact all the while doing the same exact thing but too stupid to even realize it. He thinks only his theories (not in the scientific but colloquial usage) can be considered. He isn't familiar with special pleading.

Ha ha! Exactly.

 

[holdover]

100%

Well maybe not 100% percent he did park his car in the fucking garage

 

[freddy]

Well maybe not 100% percent he did park his car in the fucking garage

And again! Too funny!

 

[holdover]

Dude, it doesn't have to make sense to you. Only needs to make sense to the killer.

Not true at all. the story has to make sense his motive doesn't have to . but his actions must support the story. It doesn't .

 

[holdover]

whats funny about that? your buddy said he might be trying to shoot his car and he parks it in the garage ? Oh wait, because he doesn't know what he doing right? give me a break , he knew enough to hide the fucking weapons and carry out the attack .

 

[freddy]

whats funny about that? your buddy said h he might be trying to shoot his car and he parks it in the garage ? Oh wait, because he doesn't know what he doing right? give me a break , he knew enough to hide the fucking weapons and carry out the attack .

Yes, I agree! Pepperoni pizza is the best!

 

[freddy]

Not true at all. the story has to make sense his motive doesn't have to . but his actions must support the story. It doesn't .

KTM makes an excellent dirtbike.

 

[holdover]

you make as much sense as your explanations.

 

[eagleridge357]

I cannot believe this thread has not evolved into the archives. So many mutations, so few improvements.

 

[Robin]

Must be the script writers are still on sabbatical. Sandy hook was a very trying ordeal.
Robin

 

[freddy]

Forums keep all the fiction authors too busy.

 

[holdover]

No news= no news .

 

[redtail]

LV debacle was/is tied to the Saudis and arms traffic imho.
Unsealed FBI Docs Show Vegas Gunman May Have Had an Accomplice - DANGEROUS

 

[Marine Cpl]

LV debacle was/is tied to the Saudis and arms traffic imho.
Unsealed FBI Docs Show Vegas Gunman May Have Had an Accomplice - DANGEROUS

Look at the piles of brass on the floor. What a shootout!

 

[AK68]

Unsealed Documents Show The Las Vegas Shooter's Girlfriend Acted Swiftly to Delete Her Facebook Account

Unsealed Documents Show The Las Vegas Shooter's Girlfriend Acted Swiftly
She deleted her account 2 hours and 15 minutes after the shooting began and 1 hour before authorities even released Paddock's name.

She also told investigators that they would find her fingerprints on the ammunition and magazines as she sometimes helped load them, but it is unclear as to why.

Las Vegas Gunman Stephen Paddock's Girlfriend Had Fingerprints on His Ammunition, Documents Show

 

[holdover]

""She deleted her account 2 hours and 15 minutes after the shooting began and 1 hour before authorities even released Paddock's name.""

That's kind of odd, She was in the Philippine's Why would she delete her face book account before the name was even released?

In addition to the two email addresses, the FBI requested and were granted warrants to search Paddock and Danley's Facebook and Instagram accounts.

Wonder when his facebook was deleted .

 

[holdover]

One affidavit includes email exchanges between centralpark1@live.com, a Microsoft account that FBI authorities believe belonged to Paddock, and centralpark4804@gmail.com. (It is unclear if the FBI knows who is responsible for the latter account.) The messages were sent on July 6, 2017,

The affidavit reads:

"...[centralpark1@live.com] sent an email to centralpark4804@gmail.com which read, 'try an ar before u buy. we have huge selection. located in the las vegas area,' Later the day, an email was received back from centralpark4804@gmail.com to [centralpark1@live.com] that read, 'we have a wide variety of optics and ammunition to try.' And lastly, [centralpark1@live.com sent an email to centralpark4804@gmail.com that read, 'for a thrill try out bumpfire ar's with a 100 round magazine.' Investigators believe these communications may have been related to the eventual attack that occurred at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas."

Sounds like a gun runner to me.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

""She deleted her account 2 hours and 15 minutes after the shooting began and 1 hour before authorities even released Paddock's name.""

That's kind of odd, She was in the Philippine's Why would she delete her face book account before the name was even released?

In addition to the two email addresses, the FBI requested and were granted warrants to search Paddock and Danley's Facebook and Instagram accounts.

Wonder when his facebook was deleted .

There is only one plausible reason why she would delete her Facebook account BEFORE she is in any way remotely publicly identified or associated with the LV shooting,- and that is because she was at a minimum aware of his plans, - or that she was actively involved and helped him.

Time to throw the bitch in jail and torture the shit out of her until we get the full story.

 

[livingston]

Mandalay Bay security guards, employees, say they don’t know who Jesus Campos or Steve Schuck is: Report
Posted on January 17, 2018 by Shepard Ambellas

Authorities caught in another lie after Mandalay Bay security staff leak the fact that none of them know Jesus Campos or Steve Schuck
LAS VEGAS (INTELLIHUB) — Investigative reporter Jake Morphonois recently stayed at the Mandalay Bay where he met hotel security and maintenance staff who later told him off property that they do not know who Jesus Campos or Steve Schuck is.

Morphonios claims his sources maintain that there were less than 20 security guards on the payroll around the time of the shooting, all of whom know each other.

“They security guards don’t know who Jesus Campos is,” Morphonios explained. “They have no idea who this guy is, that we are being told was a Mandalay Bay security guard that went to the rescue.”
Mandalay Bay security guards, employees, say they don’t know who Jesus Campos or Steve Schuck is: Report

 

[Robin]

Who leaked that?!?!?!?!?!!? Now the script writers will have to abandon their June premier of the 'official' report. Damn, I already booked a catering service for that date.
Robin

 

[holdover]

According to a Mandalay Bay employee, if the driver was not Danley, the person who last dropped the car off in valet would also had to have known her name, along with the unusual spelling of her uncommon name. The individual also would have had to have been a female since all guests who valet their vehicles are asked to provide their first and last name.

“When a guest pulls into valet, we ask them if they are staying at the hotel or just visiting. If they are staying at the hotel, we issue them a hotel ticket and ask them for their first and last name. If they have a gold, platinum, or noir tier rewards card, they show us and then we would link it up to that instead because that makes their valet free.”

This reporter has exclusively obtained more than five Mandalay Bay valet receipts that document Paddock’s stay at Mandalay Bay. According to a source at Mandalay Bay, “Paddock was a Platinum member for M Life rewards, so he used his (players) card to get free valet.”

Stephen Paddock’s vehicle and valet log inside the East Mandalay Bay parking garage
The exclusively obtained receipts prior to the receipt dated October 1, 2017 all have Paddock’s name and list him as being a Platinum member, which would make his valet free. However, the receipt dated October 1 differs from the rest of the receipts in that it has Danley’s name and indicates that $20 was paid, in comparison to the other comped valet entries.

Oddly enough, unlike all of the other valet receipts, a name is missing from the cashier section of the receipt dated Oct. 1, 2017, and it is still unknown who the “greeter” was. However, surveillance footage from the valet area at Mandalay Bay would quickly reveal the identity of the driver and the employee who possibly greeted Danley just hours before the shooting.

In this case, had the driver been Paddock, it would have been unorthodox, without a large tip, for the unnamed “greeter” to falsely enter the name of a female instead. Moreover, documentation of Paddock’s valet receipts this reporter has exclusively obtained show that he used his own name and his Platinum membership the other 14 times he used the Mandalay Bay valet service during his stay at Mandalay Bay throughout the month of September.

Lastly, the receipt shows Paddock’s vehicle was checked out on Wednesday, October 4th at 10:32 a.m. PDT. A Mandalay Bay employee told this reporter that this time signifies the moment the FBI arrived to assume custody of the vehicle.

Mandalay Bay Valet Receipt Dated Oct. 1, 2017 with MariLou Danley’s name
This receipt poses a major problem for the FBI and the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department (LVMPD), who currently hold the position that Paddock acted alone in both the planning and execution of the October 1st mass shooting. However, unseald FBI search warrats further indicate that Danley isn’t as inocent as she, her lawyers, and the authorities would like the public to believe. It is worth noting that another valet receipt exclsuively obtained by this reporter previously caused authroities to change their official narrative after the receipt proved the FBI and LVMPD were misleading the public about Paddock’s actual check in date.

Poking yet another hole in the “official narrative”, it is impossible for Danley to have been present at the Mandalay Bay, if she was indeed vacationing in the Philippines at the time of the shooting.

Reuters previously reported that Danley arrived in the Philippines on Friday, September 15th, then flew to Hong Kong on the 22nd before returning to the Philippines on the 25th, and didn’t leave until she allegedly boarded a flight to Los Angeles on Tuesday, October 3rd, 2017 where she was supposedly greeted and questioned by FBI officials upon her arrival.

 

[holdover]

Laura Loomer‏ @LauraLoomer 23h23 hours ago



Laura Loomer Retweeted Chris

No. Her player's card was *found* in the room. If he used a player's card it would have said "Platinum" on the receipt. He used his platinum membership card for every other valet entry which is why all other entries were comped. This one wasn't