Ammo background checks to begin mid-September?

[Saltwater60]

Wouldn’t it be great if the Feds viewed all of the piddly little $9.00 and $2.50 transactions as structuring and shut it all down?

Be great if it got flagged for fraud and shutdown.

 

[Saltwater60]

I wouldn't be surprised if they started treating it the same as the Speed Pass where you have to "deposit" $25. to start and when it dips to $15. they automatically charge you another $25. so it's quite probable the State has $40. of your money at any given time... I suppose it makes sense to people that have to cross toll bridges and roads frequently, but for those who only use it a few times a year it isn't fair, and if you don't have it and they send you a bill for the Toll they spank the shit out of you.

I’m sure this will be the case. What I’m wondering is if an FFL does 100 ammo background checks if the banks will get pissed if 100 $2.50 transfers go out. I’m wondering if it will cost the banks tons of time, money, and server space or something like that. I don’t know much how it works but there’s a reason laces say minimum credit card charge or whatever is $10.

 

[Keyzard]

I’m sure this will be the case. What I’m wondering is if an FFL does 100 ammo background checks if the banks will get pissed if 100 $2.50 transfers go out. I’m wondering if it will cost the banks tons of time, money, and server space or something like that. I don’t know much how it works but there’s a reason laces say minimum credit card charge or whatever is $10.

Not that it matters, but as I recall from when I had my retail store, that is against the TOS of the CC processors.

 

[Defilade]

Worse state in the Nation! Background check for ammo.. Are ya kidding?

 

[FP1201]

Worse state in the Nation! Background check for ammo.. Are ya kidding?

The irony is that the same person that bought the gun that the criminal/Prohibited Person couldn't himself ALSO bought the ammunition... THEY KNOW it's a bullshit sham that'll do nothing but hamper the legitimate gun owners, the dumbest of which will think it's a great idea because it comes from Democrats that are "doing something"... yea, fucking us over.

 

[lrick]

It will probably piss the banks off, all this for $2.50. I’d love for the banks to tell nys this isn’t sustainable

Not sure exactly how the fee collection works, but if it's anything like sales tax, it'll be reported and collected quarterly or something like that. Not one transaction at a time.
The banks won't care, they'll absorb it either way.

I won't buy anything firearm related with a bank card. Cash only.

More than just the state that has an interest in knowing what you buy and what you own.

 

[FP1201]

Not sure exactly how the fee collection works, but if it's anything like sales tax, it'll be reported and collected quarterly or something like that. Not one transaction at a time.
The banks won't care, they'll absorb it either way.

I won't buy anything firearm related with a bank card. Cash only.

More than just the state that has an interest in knowing what you buy and what you own.

The Fee will be collected by the State from the Dealer the moment they log on to enter information. (that's what they said in the on-line Training)

 

[lrick]

The Fee will be collected by the State from the Dealer the moment they log on to enter information. (that's what they said in the on-line Training)

Good to know.

Obvious they haven't thought this through. Still, I think they'll just absorb it.

 

[Acer-m14]

when does the RICO statue kick on the NYSP and the WITCH .. ??

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[Bustedknees]

Any guesses as to how many lawsuits are filed against this today?
We should have a definitive answer within the next decade either way.

 

[Bustedknees]

Waiting to see how this all works.
Will the state police simply be a true middle man calling in all the info to the feds?
Last I knew the feds won't allow it for ammo. So does this mean the Troopers will just do an arrest search before giving the good to go?
Will it be an instant check?
The cluster fuck reports should be a beauty today.

 

[GTN]

Firing Pin had a video of the system not wrong already

 

[thisIslandEarth]

Firing Pin had a video of the system not wrong already

Yep. The cluster-fuck has begun. The system is currently NOT WORKING. Our rights have been eliminated. You can see the Firing Pin video here:

Video from Firing Pin

 

[Hochulsucks1234]

I said I was not going to succumb to a background check for ammo and I am going to stick to it. But I think during my lunch break I will call Bass Pro and Runnings and ask if they have been able to sell ammo. I am curious if this system is going to work (I have doubts it will).

 

[MilsurpGuy47]

I said I was not going to succumb to a background check for ammo and I am going to stick to it. But I think during my lunch break I will call Bass Pro and Runnings and ask if they have been able to sell ammo. I am curious if this system is going to work (I have doubts it will).

I’m torn between sticking to my principles when it comes to refusing to use this new system, but at the same time, not wanting local stores to lose business because of it.

 

[Hochulsucks1234]

I’m torn between sticking to my principles when it comes to refusing to use this new system, but at the same time, not wanting local stores to lose business because of it.

I won't for ammo. I am gonna wait things out and see what happens in a few months. I still plan to purchase long guns/pistols, well maybe.

 

[maverick52]

Even if this system works well it’s still a problem due the data mining. They actually stated the data mining last year. And I have only purchased one case of ammo in that time. Purchase out of state. Do not give them what they want.

 

[FP1201]

9/13/23 at 9:38 I received word from a Dealer that the System HAS CRASHED!

 

[S&W Fan]

Welcome to communist ny

 

[Pissed Off Patriot]

Would the purchase of a pallet of ammo count as a single purchase?

 

[Bigfoot]

Sounds like everything is going according to plan.

Well, "their" plan anyways.



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[Defilade]

Well smart Fudds would have bought a decade supply of ammo by purchasing about 6 box's. They still won't see a problem in all of this.

 

[2WheelGnnr]

There is already a good system in place by the Feds..I dont see why NY thinks they can do it better...I bet they do...but its also to make more hoops to go through more time and more steps....just want to get us to say screw it and not buy firearms and ammo......and Oh yeah..system down today..I cant sell any ammo.......is that how it is now that its crashed aready....no one can Sell ammo...its all a farce to make it hard to excersize our God given right......and they want to not only stumblie it up but to have record of everyone that has excersized that right to try to get em later...........by the way..has anyone heard...is Leo exempt from this ....this....garbage...

 

[Beerman]

There is already a good system in place by the Feds..I dont see why NY thinks they can do it better...I bet they do...but its also to make more hoops to go through more time and more steps....just want to get us to say screw it and not buy firearms and ammo......and Oh yeah..system down today..I cant sell any ammo.......is that how it is now that its crashed aready....no one can Sell ammo...its all a farce to make it hard to excersize our God given right......and they want to not only stumblie it up but to have record of everyone that has excersized that right to try to get em later...........by the way..has anyone heard...is Leo exempt from this ....this....garbage...

There is no LEO exemption spelled out in the ammunition BGC portion of this legislation as of today.

 

[Saltwater60]

Not sure exactly how the fee collection works, but if it's anything like sales tax, it'll be reported and collected quarterly or something like that. Not one transaction at a time.
The banks won't care, they'll absorb it either way.

I won't buy anything firearm related with a bank card. Cash only.

More than just the state that has an interest in knowing what you buy and what you own.

I’m not talking about you as the purchaser but the ffl. The $2.50 fee per check has been talked about and an account is to be set up. What I’m wondering is if the banks can even process these checks. How many gun and ammo checks will be done daily? Thousands would be my guess and at busy points it could be 100’s of thousands.

 

[Saltwater60]

Firing Pin had a video of the system not wrong already

I’m shocked.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Put the ammo in the trunk, cover it well. They can't search without a warrant. People have been doing it for years with fireworks and cigs. Its the idiots that have the stuff in the open the cops can see that get busted.

"You seem to be acting suspiciously. I'll need to search the vehicle."

Happens all the time.

 

[Hochulsucks1234]

"You seem to be acting suspiciously. I'll need to search the vehicle."

Happens all the time.

Sure does. Happened to me once many years ago. I still told them I wanted to see a warrant. They ended up letting me go. May not happen all the time, maybe they do end up breaking your balls enough to instill fear and give in.

Even if they did get a warrant.....what did ya do wrong? Its ammo, its not illegal to transport.

 

[Slacker43]

Sure does. Happened to me once many years ago. I still told them I wanted to see a warrant. They ended up letting me go. May not happen all the time, maybe they do end up breaking your balls enough to instill fear and give in.

Even if they did get a warrant.....what did ya do wrong? Its ammo, its not illegal to transport.

Always make the fuckers work for it. I will never be the "I've got nothing to hide" guy. Fuck that. Know your rights and make them earn your tax dollars. Un-exercised rights quickly become privilege's. Just like this law, buy ammo and hold their feet to the fire. I'm planning on buying 22lr one box at a time to jam up their shit for worthless transactions. It is a cheap fuck you in my opinion. I will feel better about that than donating the $$$ to the NRA to fight this for us 10 years from now.