Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
ummmm that issue with buying and shipping cigarettes into NYS deal .. before that Witch landed on the Gov Seat ...
Ammo background checks to begin mid-September?
- Thread starter Beerman
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ummmm that issue with buying and shipping cigarettes into NYS deal .. before that Witch landed on the Gov Seat ...
S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
The cigarette issue that you’re referring to was about the tax revenue and the lack there of when buying and shipping cigarettes into NYS.
I've heard from a reliable source that Walmart, at least, has been experiencing a lot of delays trying to run the ammo background checks. To the point where FUDDs who are trying to get their hunting ammo are complaining that it is walmart delaying the checks because they don't want to sell ammo, when it is really the NYSP system that is down.
Personally, I will never buy ammo in NY again until this infringement is ended (bonus points if heil hochul's term is ended also). don't need an interstate to get from PA to NY.
Reloading isn't especially difficult, but it is time consuming and requires a degree of professionalism: I suggest an in-expensive single stage Press and basic set up to start with; it'll always do what you need it to do, and if you decide to drop the idea then it's an easy sell or can be packed away for a rainy day. The Multi-stage presses are great once set up and tuned, however that's a bit arduous, especially for the beginner.
Check the Equipment Exchange/Classifieds on Gun Boards as there's always some either "getting out" or upgrading.
Don't get too wrapped up in Powders (which one gives the very best results, latest, greatest's, does everything) just pick a caliber, and see what's available at your local Shop, same with primers, and bullets as done right they're going to shoot well enough to practice with.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
This will be the next avenue they go after......wait and see.
Vinson57
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Wait until people find out they are being denied for mundane reasons such as unpaid parking tickets, late on taxes, too many points on license and unpaid child support, expired vehicle registration and more. This will give you an idea on how living a low-life existence is going to work when they implement CBDC.
Hochulsucks1234
.357 mag
‘75% of our customers have been delayed’: Ammo background checks continue to bring stores and customers issues
Just under two weeks into the state run ammunition background checks, gun store owners and customers feel time has only made things worse.
www.wkbw.com
"Bill Godios from is a retired police and corrections officer, who goes to shooting range every now and again.
The South Buffalo man went to pick up some ammo for his pistol, but his background check took 22 hours to approve.
“It was an inconvenience but not a major inconvenience. I’m not who you have to worry about. It’s the bad guys you have got to worry about.” "
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Not a major inconvenience so its okay according to this FUDD. And that my friends is why we are in this mess and will never get out.
ManualF150
.308 Win
Is that fucker going to pay for my gas to drive back in 22 hours to pick up my ammo?‘75% of our customers have been delayed’: Ammo background checks continue to bring stores and customers issues
Just under two weeks into the state run ammunition background checks, gun store owners and customers feel time has only made things worse.
"Bill Godios from is a retired police and corrections officer, who goes to shooting range every now and again.
The South Buffalo man went to pick up some ammo for his pistol, but his background check took 22 hours to approve.
“It was an inconvenience but not a major inconvenience. I’m not who you have to worry about. It’s the bad guys you have got to worry about.” "
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Not a major inconvenience so its okay according to this FUDD. And that my friends is why we are in this mess and will never get out.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
If this doesn't convince one to get into reloading then nothing will. That was the first thing I did after unSAFE passed was dive into it.
I expe
I expect if they do, some of us will be tagged as "Un-Licensed Manufacturers".
Yeah and the minute you do ammo components require a background check. That's next!
Hochulsucks1234
.357 mag
Mass just enacted something for ammo and components. Heard people bitching from that state because a lot of places won't even ship bullets. So ya I am sure NY will one up it and require background checks for components. I guess having molds to cast my own bullets will pay off...SMH.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Vinson57
.450/400 Nitro Ex
The State thinks something is not quite right with your life.‘75% of our customers have been delayed’: Ammo background checks continue to bring stores and customers issues
Just under two weeks into the state run ammunition background checks, gun store owners and customers feel time has only made things worse.
"Bill Godios from is a retired police and corrections officer, who goes to shooting range every now and again.
The South Buffalo man went to pick up some ammo for his pistol, but his background check took 22 hours to approve.
“It was an inconvenience but not a major inconvenience. I’m not who you have to worry about. It’s the bad guys you have got to worry about.” "
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Not a major inconvenience so its okay according to this FUDD. And that my friends is why we are in this mess and will never get out.
They themselves as rulers, have decided with a multitude of databases and your name is there, they people are not worthy of having ammo.
There is a paper trail being created now and these need collection along with all appeals have to be done, them also tracked and recorded and we may get to the bottom of it.
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
SCJ C. Thomas says he wants to hear the challenge to the NY Ammo Case - conference day Oct 6
"U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has moved to consider a challenge to New York's provision of the Concealed Carry Improvement Act on background checks for ammunition purchases that went into effect a few weeks ago, according to Supreme Court records.
Thomas agreed to bring the case to the full court for a conference day on Oct. 6."
spectrumlocalnews.com
but article says other judge sotmeyer or whatever her face rejected a request a fews days before going into affect.
"U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has moved to consider a challenge to New York's provision of the Concealed Carry Improvement Act on background checks for ammunition purchases that went into effect a few weeks ago, according to Supreme Court records.
Thomas agreed to bring the case to the full court for a conference day on Oct. 6."
SCOTUS Justice Thomas to consider challenge to N.Y. ammunition law
The case will go to the full court for a conference day.
spectrumlocalnews.com
but article says other judge sotmeyer or whatever her face rejected a request a fews days before going into affect.
Hochulsucks1234
.357 mag
Just left Runnings in Rome. I bought some LP primers, transaction was no different than buying a snickers candy bar. A fellow comes asking about buying ammo and the clerk said the system was down for "up to a week". Not sure if thats just the guy being lazy or if the system is really down. If so, working as designed....
Vinson57
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Compare to your polling place is down.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Supreme Court 6-3 Decision & Warning Order Defied Causing Emergency Review!!!
In this video I break down an important case seeking emergency Supreme Court review in light of NYSRPA v. Bruen
thughes
.44 mag
So, basically, several more years...if not decades, before a final decision.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
You'd think this concept is putting a huge dent in "climate change" where we're all burning thousands of gallons of fossil fuels to deal with Cunty Whorecul's new mandate. That's right Cunty. Hope you're ready this.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Gun store owners, customers frustrated with delays over new ammunition background checks system
The new state-run ammunition background checks began about two weeks ago, and some gun store owners and customers say they are frustrated with delays in the system.
hudsonvalley.news12.com
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
i think it was more over the lawsuit on big Tabaco .. your product kills people slowly
but if you let us tax your product things could work out better ..
just saying they did interfered in interstate commerce ..
where is a cigarette manufacture or office ln NYS so they can collect the tax back then .. ??
i don't think there was one ..
like lots of out of state stores .. no present in NY no tax .. when you ordered from a magazine or online
or used to be ..
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Vinson57
.450/400 Nitro Ex
As soon as one realizes, state gun control has to be ended (preempted everywhere) and has to come only from the Federal gov, we end up with uniform regulations same for every US citizen. Existence of the 2A in the bill of rights calls for the inverse application of the 10A, "not a states right" to arrive at equal protection of the law. This would pull the plug on all infringements and end all the Federal courts work in delaying the inevitable. They ended Missouri's 2nd Amendment Protection Act with this logic by a federal court "correctly" and no one sees it for what it was, correctly proving what I just said. It's absurd to think with modern communications and interstate travel to have some states gun free zones and others, fully 2A friendly.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I have little faith this goes away fully. I expect them to allow background checks but be able to ask for less and there will be a timeframe listed or something like that.
I suspect all the delays for long periods of time are the fact that they are understaffed or have technical issues. I’m sure they are told you can’t get it done just delay it. This is t right it’s just my thoughts on why. Also who are these people doing these checks? Are they vetted? This opens us up to more risk of our information get leaked or our homes getting broken into to steal our guns.
I suspect all the delays for long periods of time are the fact that they are understaffed or have technical issues. I’m sure they are told you can’t get it done just delay it. This is t right it’s just my thoughts on why. Also who are these people doing these checks? Are they vetted? This opens us up to more risk of our information get leaked or our homes getting broken into to steal our guns.
ManualF150
.308 Win
As it is, I wouldn't feel comfortable giving all my information to some dude behind the counter, especially verbally. Someone could be there recording it. There are plenty of places that follow PCI compliance so far, they won't touch your bank/credit card physically.
It's really an invasion of privacy.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
The thread is long so here is a repeat. SS number is mandatory for all checks. Lots of delays on ammo, more than proceeds. The system is glitchy. Street address, nationality, height, weight and occupation mandatory for all checks. Do you feel the noose yet?
As for crossing state lines with ammo. Currently, according to multiple officers, it is legal. If anyone cares toremember, the witch was meeting with five adjoining state govs shortly after this crap passed.
As for crossing state lines with ammo. Currently, according to multiple officers, it is legal. If anyone cares toremember, the witch was meeting with five adjoining state govs shortly after this crap passed.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
New York State Police say they will keep updating the system in order to provide a response that is timely and accurate.Gun store owners, customers frustrated with delays over new ammunition background checks system
The new state-run ammunition background checks began about two weeks ago, and some gun store owners and customers say they are frustrated with delays in the system.hudsonvalley.news12.com
The system is a few weeks old .. How much updating do they need ?
Every news cast that I hear is mentioning this is to create a gun registry ... They want to know exactly what guns you have . In the future we can foresee the make model and serial number for every box one buys. .. This day will come .. If a natural disaster or riot happens that system will be the first thing down in the state. Every act done in this state is done to disarm the average citizen A tax stamp on all ammo and make it a felony to have a box without the stamp. Ammo will be regulated as much as any narcotic 10 rounds / gun every 120 days ... There is no limit what the anti gun folks can dream up. .
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
FUNY!
Robin
Robin