holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
SO when your wife is told to get an abortion or she cant work its OK?
How about nobody dictating how to live your life?
How about nobody dictating how to live your life?
Biden signs covid unemployment order .......
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There was once a bakery and the baker refused to make the cake for a gay couple....
@thewheels
.308 Win
I'm not saying I agree with that specific case but legal precedent has been set.
drowhawk
.44 mag
But it IS a choice between getting the shot and not having a job. That IS the reality.
Boy, the 3D mental chess is strong today.
Boy, the 3D mental chess is strong today.
Choice is always the employee to quit. But, the rest of America should not be on the hook for his choice. This is what you fail to understand.
Unemployment Benefits Definition
Unemployment benefits are part of an employer-paid program that provides temporary, partial income replacement to qualified individuals who are unemployed through no fault of their own.
Unemployment benefits are part of an employer-paid program that provides temporary, partial income replacement to qualified individuals who are unemployed through no fault of their own.
drowhawk
.44 mag
So an employee should be forced to do whatever the employer wants, including (but not limited to), inserting whatever substance the employer wants inside of the employee's body? And it's OK because the employee can just "find another job?" Just like all those Keystone pipeline welders can just "find another job."
drowhawk
.44 mag
What's next GOPerfect? Employers requiring employees to use a butt plug whenever not using the restroom because it reduces occurrences of soiled underwear? Would that be a violation of an employee's constitutional rights or does a private company have a right to sodomize its employees?
No, not at all. The employee can quit if he does not like the rules of work. You are confusing too many things here.
Biden destroyed all of those jobs with Keystone with the swipe of a pen.
As for the forcing of the shot, I am 100% against this. I have already decided that if my department were to force the shot, I would quit. I would not go on UI, I have prepared myself for the future quite nice.
I have no clue what you are talking about.
My job says no beards, I do not like this rule, but I follow it.
drowhawk
.44 mag
If you support the right to individual autonomy, why wouldn't you support public assistance for people who's rights have been violated? UI doesn't last forever. Somebody who is motivated can certainly find another job but at what cost? What if somebody isn't as well-prepared as you are? Are they not entitled to the right of choice?
Employers having a standard for personal appearance and hygiene is not even remotely comparable to an employer requiring employees to ingest chemicals. It's not even on the same planet. Shaving is an inconvenience but it doesn't permanently alter my genetic structure. Same with safety equipment. Inconvenient but doesn't alter my internal chemistry.
By an employee mandating this shot, what Right is being infringed? No one is forcing someone to stay employed, the option to leave over grievances is there.
It is not my fault, nor my care if others are not prepared. Their fault alone. As for your question of Right of Choice? Sure, they can chose to leave.
drowhawk
.44 mag
Threatening an employee with termination if they invoke their constitutional rights is illegal. Precedent has already been set. Hence why we have EOE.
What constitutional right?
drowhawk
.44 mag
All of them.
How is the Second involved in this? The Third? Forth? Fifth? Sixth? The seventh or Eighth?
Bit confused here...
Bit confused here...
Modean
.223 Rem
When your choice to not get a shot has the potential to shut an entire workplace down because of covid, it’s absolutely ok for the business to require the shot to work. You always have the right to work elsewhere. As with all personal choices, the consequences are yours to bear.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
I guess you don't understand the metaphor and the context to which he was referring.
@thewheels
.308 Win
Do you? How many companies in NY won't mandate the vaccine?
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
How about work just has to deal with my personal decisions or fire me.
If Cuomo said so, you guys would be up in arms about it, but your boss says so and bend over and take it in the ass.
FirstRifle
.40 S&W
If your fundamental issue with any or all of the covid-19 vaccines is that they will alter your "genetic structure", meaning DNA, and that is stopping you from getting it or even supporting the vaccines, then I suggest that you do a web search for "vaccine alter" "DNA". There are several articles that debunk the myth/lie that the vaccines change a person's DNA. This link will get you started. YW
COVID-19 FAQ - Vaccinate Your Family
For Novavax COVID-19 vaccination (approved for people 12 years and older): If the individual has not gotten any COVID-19 vaccines (not vaccinated), get 2 doses of 2024–2025 Novavax COVID-19 vaccine If the individual got 1 dose of Novavax COVID-19 vaccine, get 1 dose of 2024–2025 Novavax...
vaccinateyourfamily.org
If you find credible, scientific evidence that the vaccine(s) alter human DNA, please share it.
Oh yeah, and remember the mantra to "follow the science" .
Too many websites talking about how RNA vaccines won't hurt you. Because of everything I have learned over the last 8 years, I don't trust it.
Also I have a religious objection as the vaccines are made from one of two aborted babies.
Also I have a religious objection as the vaccines are made from one of two aborted babies.
Modean
.223 Rem
Those who want to do things their way have been known to open businesses of their own.
Modean
.223 Rem
No, they really don’t. See “employment at will”.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
without limitations. How about if your boss wants to screw your daughter? At what point is the line crossed?
pjzwtl
.308 Win
I actually take issue with this being an employer mandated shot. I have an issue with it being mandated period. There is a common sense line but unfortunately common sense seems to be lacking in this land as of late.
Modean
.223 Rem
Rage all you like. The law is not on your side. You aren’t a slave, you can quit if you don’t like your employers policy.
Modean
.223 Rem
If common sense was involved we wouldn’t be having this discussion. A mandate to be vaccinated shouldn’t have to be, but because of knuckleheads it will probably will be.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
And what knuckleheads are you referring to? Those who would rather not get a shot which had little vetting and questionable effectiveness or those who blindly follow the heard?