Corona is a major over-reaction designed by the Democrats as a last-ditch effort to harm President Trump

[CaseHardened]

According to this deaths in Massachusetts have increased by 100%.

Coronavirus in the US: State-by-state breakdown

In the U.S., all 50 states plus the District of Columbia have reported confirmed cases of COVID-19, tallying more than 46,487,857 illnesses and at least 754,431 deaths.

www.foxnews.com

From 0 to 1.

Yes, a man in his Eighties that had been in poor health for a long time.

Yes, it's sad. But people like him also succumb to the Flu, Pneumonia, or a vast pallette of other causes.

Still....

PANIC !!!!

 

[CaseHardened]

Again, the dems didn't shut down UK, and if Trump is so stupid to fall hook line and sinker for this, he deserves to lose his seat in the oval office anyway.

The dems also should be CONDEMNED for somehow convincing pretty much the entire world's health care system that this is a major problem, when in fact it's not.

FIFY

 

[Blimey]

Why we’re not overreacting to the coronavirus, in one chart

Italy tried to stem its outbreak, belatedly. We’re on a similar course.

www.vox.com

By the way. earlier this week it looked like italy, under national lockdown, had flattened the curve.

So much for that.

 

[holdover]

Sorry BD, just picking on you , No harm meant.

 

[holdover]

Im not saying its a hoax, but Ron Paul makes some good points

 

[Dr. Evil]

Im not saying its a hoax, but Ron Paul makes some good points

The virus is real. Their reaction is a hoax. I'm not saying they all don't believe the crap they are spreading though.

 

[meketrefe]

Why we’re not overreacting to the coronavirus, in one chart

Italy tried to stem its outbreak, belatedly. We’re on a similar course.

www.vox.com

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By the way. earlier this week it looked like italy, under national lockdown, had flattened the curve.

So much for that.

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The new cases in Italy are the people who contracted the virus in the 1st and 2nd week. It should flatten
out starting next. The whole quarantine initiative was 2 weeks too late and here in the US is the same, possibly worse.
Also the quarentine is not that effective if people keep behaving the way they are in the grocery stores going
w/o masks and gloves. All countries failed to properly educate people.

At this point it is not about mortality control but health system control so we do not collapse the
health systems.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Half the medical professionals say that "gun violence" is an "epidemic"that needs "drastic action, civil rights be dammed" to combat too.

Also, a lot of people will claim any conclusion with big words and a lot of math is "scientific". Many are not. Unless they can explain how the scientific method was applied to reach that conclusion it is not scientific. Also, scepticism is the backbone of science, so anyone criticizing scepticism is themself being unscientific (as long as it is reasoned scepticism).

While "experts" are usually the best place to go for advice on a topic, their advice should always be tempered with healthy scepticism and common sense. Most of the largest blunders in history were perpetrated by "experts".

The reaction to this virus may go down in history as one of them.

Remember also, many of the "foolish and backwards" ideas of the past that we point and laugh at were the "modern, expert, scientific solutions" of their time. What ideas do we have now that will be looked on in 100 years the way we do "blowing smoke up someone's ass".

I don't care to be shot or get the virus

 

[CaseHardened]

The new cases in Italy are the people who contracted the virus in the 1st and 2nd week. It should flatten
out starting next. The whole quarantine initiative was 2 weeks too late and here in the US is the same, possibly worse.
Also the quarentine is not that effective if people keep behaving the way they are in the grocery stores going
w/o masks and gloves. All countries failed to properly educate people.

At this point it is not about mortality control but health system control so we do not collapse the
health systems.

People needlessly wearing masks and gloves are the exact reason healthcare PROFESSIONALS can't get them.

From the CDC:

If you are NOT sick: You do not need to wear a facemask unless you are caring for someone who is sick (and they are not able to wear a facemask). Facemasks may be in short supply and they should be saved for caregivers.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) – Prevention & Treatment

 

[livingston]

The new cases in Italy are the people who contracted the virus in the 1st and 2nd week. It should flatten
out starting next. The whole quarantine initiative was 2 weeks too late and here in the US is the same, possibly worse.
Also the quarentine is not that effective if people keep behaving the way they are in the grocery stores going
w/o masks and gloves. All countries failed to properly educate people.

At this point it is not about mortality control but health system control so we do not collapse the
health systems.

In Rochester masks and gloves are in short supply ... Hospitals are starting to worry ... Cannot get them to save your life.

 

[CaseHardened]

This guy's got the message

Six Ways Why Coronavirus® Fails the Sniff Test – The Burning Platform

"It appears reaction to Coronavirus® has wreaked more carnage globally than the virus itself. Although a 2-3% mortality rate is nothing to sneeze at, it’s not exactly a Biblical plague either; even if virtually none of it passes the sniff test."

"So maybe Churchill had a point when he said: “The only thing to fear is fear itself.”"

 

[Blimey]

This guy's got the message

Six Ways Why Coronavirus® Fails the Sniff Test – The Burning Platform

"It appears reaction to Coronavirus® has wreaked more carnage globally than the virus itself. Although a 2-3% mortality rate is nothing to sneeze at, it’s not exactly a Biblical plague either; even if virtually none of it passes the sniff test."

"So maybe Churchill had a point when he said: “The only thing to fear is fear itself.”"

2-3% mortality rate if everyone got it in the US would be 5-10M people. I am sure we won't see 100% infection rate, but if people went crazy over 911 they are not going to tolerate the government just accepting 5-10M people die.

As we all know, additionally, it's the stress on the health care system. It's not even like these people simply disappear. They need care while hospitalized. Moreover, several times more people need hospitalization than who die, so with that guy's "meh" 2-3% you'd have many more millions requiring hospital care.

 

[spat]

Again, the dems didn't shut down UK, and if Trump is so stupid to fall hook line and sinker for this, he deserves to lose his seat in the oval office anyway.

The dems also should be commended for somehow convincing pretty much the entire world's health care system that this is a major problem, when in fact it's not.

The American Democrat party is just one manifestation of the global leftist movement.

The fact that lefties in other countries are calling for the same stuff as the ones here is no surprise. They all have the same goal, and the "big players" are international. While I haven't looked into it, I am sure Soros meddles in UK politics as much as he does US for instance.

"don't let a crisis go to waste" is not unique to American politics, and the corollary to that is "if the crisis isn't big enough to accomplish your goals, you're not selling it hard enough".

 

[CaseHardened]

WIDESPREAD TESTING IS USELESS

Liberals are pushing it to drive the numbers up.

High numbers of infections, many of which are asymptomatic, will only serve to fuel the hysteria.

And prolong it.

 

[meketrefe]

People needlessly wearing masks and gloves are the exact reason healthcare PROFESSIONALS can't get them.

From the CDC:

If you are NOT sick: You do not need to wear a facemask unless you are caring for someone who is sick (and they are not able to wear a facemask). Facemasks may be in short supply and they should be saved for caregivers.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) – Prevention & Treatment

This is the problem. Since nobody knows how many people are infected the virus spreads via everything we touch and proximity.
One person can be sick and have no symptoms and by touching things in the supermarket transmit the virus to dozens others.

Of course If one doesn't have the masks or gloves already that is going to be a problem becuase it might be hoarding them from
people who need the most if they can even find them at all. These are long shelf life or unperishable items
many people keep not just for this but for many other reasons. The whole idea behind preparation is to do it way in advance
so we are all ready and avoid the panic reaction as we see in several sectors. Some people all the sudden want to become preppers
only they are months if not years too late.

The CDC has failed in every level to both contain and educate the people. They are in damage control right now.
Same thing like many other countries.

 

[meketrefe]

WIDESPREAD TESTING IS USELESS

Liberals are pushing it to drive the numbers up.

High numbers of infections, many of which are asymptomatic, will only serve to fuel the hysteria.

And prolong it.

Most of the countries and their leaders were caught with the pants down, the left the right and everyone in between.
People politicizing this are looking like idiots. In general, they have zero trust in the political class.

 

[CaseHardened]

The CDC has been pissing their funds away on boondoggles for decades.

With little to no oversight.

 

[CaseHardened]

Why we’re not overreacting to the coronavirus, in one chart

Italy tried to stem its outbreak, belatedly. We’re on a similar course.

www.vox.com

View attachment 66255

By the way. earlier this week it looked like italy, under national lockdown, had flattened the curve.

So much for that.

View attachment 66256

The Media loves to report TESTING, because it looks so bad.

Where are the graphs on DEATHS ?

Where are the graphs on RECOVERIES ?

I believe you'd see a far less dire situation.

 

[spat]

WIDESPREAD TESTING IS USELESS

Liberals are pushing it to drive the numbers up.

High numbers of infections, many of which are asymptomatic, will only serve to fuel the hysteria.

And prolong it.

The other side of that is that as the number of people tested goes up the fatality rate goes down.

South Korea has a fatality rate under 1% because they tested so many people.

Other places that claim a fatality rate if 3-5% are because they are only testing people with the most severe cases.

And nobody is testing the people who just stay home in bed for a few days then feel better.

 

[holdover]

Nailed it .

 

[CaseHardened]

Since nobody knows how many people are infected the virus spreads via everything we touch and proximity.

This is true for the Common Cold and many other viruses.

We should have been taking these diseases more seriously all along, and hopefully will in the future.

 

[CaseHardened]

The other side of that is that as the number of people tested goes up the fatality rate goes down.

South Korea has a fatality rate under 1% because they tested so many people.

Other places that claim a fatality rate if 3-5% are because they are only testing people with the most severe cases.

And nobody is testing the people who just stay home in bed for a few days then feel better.

I'll agree.

But both things can be true.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Sorry BD, just picking on you , No harm meant.

None taken guys... across the board.

 

[fresch]

And yet, we will do the same stuff a year from now, not remembering our past.

 

[FrankenCub]

This is the problem. Since nobody knows how many people are infected the virus spreads via everything we touch and proximity.
One person can be sick and have no symptoms and by touching things in the supermarket transmit the virus to dozens others.

Of course If one doesn't have the masks or gloves already that is going to be a problem becuase it might be hoarding them from
people who need the most if they can even find them at all. These are long shelf life or unperishable items
many people keep not just for this but for many other reasons. The whole idea behind preparation is to do it way in advance
so we are all ready and avoid the panic reaction as we see in several sectors. Some people all the sudden want to become preppers
only they are months if not years too late.

The CDC has failed in every level to both contain and educate the people. They are in damage control right now.
Same thing like many other countries.

Wife and I had to stop at the store the other day, wife has always been careful about wiping surfaces before she touches them and covering coughs correctly. When standing in line some lady right in front of us coughs in her hand and of course touches all sorts of shit. So my wife shakes her head and backs up from the dumb ass. The lady laughs about it. As we're loading our stuff in the jeep the lady say I dont have the corona virus! Wife says to her it wasn't over that you coughed into your hand then touching everything else. Lady starts running her mouth, thought my wife was gonna get out of the jeep and beat her with her O2 tank.
People wonder why this shit spreads like a $2 hooker.

 

[Blimey]

The Media loves to report TESTING, because it looks so bad.

Where are the graphs on DEATHS ?

Where are the graphs on RECOVERIES ?

I believe you'd see a far less dire situation.

Those are readily available.

Coronavirus World Map: Tracking the Global Outbreak

The virus has infected and killed millions of people around the world. See detailed maps and charts for each country.

www.nytimes.com

 

[CaseHardened]

Those are readily available.

Coronavirus World Map: Tracking the Global Outbreak

The virus has infected and killed millions of people around the world. See detailed maps and charts for each country.

www.nytimes.com

Thanks, but I hit a paywall face-on.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Those are readily available.

Coronavirus World Map: Tracking the Global Outbreak

The virus has infected and killed millions of people around the world. See detailed maps and charts for each country.

www.nytimes.com

I dont trust the NYTime like I dont trust the Asses.

 

[meketrefe]

Wife and I had to stop at the store the other day, wife has always been careful about wiping surfaces before she touches them and covering coughs correctly. When standing in line some lady right in front of us coughs in her hand and of course touches all sorts of shit. So my wife shakes her head and backs up from the dumb ass. The lady laughs about it. As we're loading our stuff in the jeep the lady say I dont have the corona virus! Wife says to her it wasn't over that you coughed into your hand then touching everything else. Lady starts running her mouth, thought my wife was gonna get out of the jeep and beat her with her O2 tank.
People wonder why this shit spreads like a $2 hooker.

It is the most profound type of ignorance and perhaps even some arrogance.
Some think it is someones duty(job) to keep them alive if they get sick and they do little to prevent it like if we had full control over everything and in the process they might get others sick or even kill them from their own germs.
What I am surprised is Grocery stores are also not giving some guidelines and instructions everywhere.
The state closing all sort of businesses but then allowing this to go on in the stores and gas stations.

the lack of social consciousness and empathy of some people toward others is appalling.

 

[Blimey]

Thanks, but I hit a paywall face-on.

Sorry. You’ve heard it elsewhere tho... deaths rising etc