Well hopefully everyone here has taken a min to swing over to the AFT website and comment on their proposed rule change for 80% and receivers
Last edited:
Fight the ATF and help keep pistol braces
- Thread starter Edwardteach72
- Start date
PutnamCharlie
6.5 Creedmoor
I did it the day it was opened and then on every 2A site with their prewritten letters.
Only 9k in comments so not too many people give a shit I guess.
33k but only 9k you can see.
Only 9k in comments so not too many people give a shit I guess.
33k but only 9k you can see.
Last edited:
S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
Same here.
I did not. I look forward to more restraints.
Not just restraints on the 2A. I want to see more and more restraints on all of our Rights.
Maybe, just maybe Americans will awaken, not become Woke, I want America to wake up or face the consequences of their wants over their Rights.
All of America needs to feel the pain of an overbearing Government. Without the pain, we can not succeed as a Nation.
Americans are too damn comfortable; this comfort needs to be taken away for a while.
Not just restraints on the 2A. I want to see more and more restraints on all of our Rights.
Maybe, just maybe Americans will awaken, not become Woke, I want America to wake up or face the consequences of their wants over their Rights.
All of America needs to feel the pain of an overbearing Government. Without the pain, we can not succeed as a Nation.
Americans are too damn comfortable; this comfort needs to be taken away for a while.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
I did.
If you don’t provide your contact information your comment will be ignored. Which is probably putting a chill on the comments.
Also copy and pasted comments are ignord/not published.
Same "vulgar" or "inappropriate" or not on topic comments
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Er, what?!?!?
Robin
Robin
PutnamCharlie
6.5 Creedmoor
Has anyone read some of the comments? Some good reading.
The "Ghost Gun" thing or the Arm Brace thing?
PutnamCharlie
6.5 Creedmoor
The definition of a firearm.
www.regulations.gov
Regulations.gov
www.regulations.gov
Seriously...do you actually think "they" give a flying fuck about the comments?
It's a waste of time.
Whatever the ATF wants, it will now get...they're "regulations", not "laws".
There is no voting, there is no oversight.
Now if the FCC wanted to "regulate" the hell out of Farcebook, Twatter or InstaDouche, you'd really see some pro level bitching and moaning.
Social media is important...but, rights? Not so much, except to certain people - and their rights mean nothing to the fascisti now running things.
It's a waste of time.
Whatever the ATF wants, it will now get...they're "regulations", not "laws".
There is no voting, there is no oversight.
Now if the FCC wanted to "regulate" the hell out of Farcebook, Twatter or InstaDouche, you'd really see some pro level bitching and moaning.
Social media is important...but, rights? Not so much, except to certain people - and their rights mean nothing to the fascisti now running things.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
If we don't give them something to have to roll over, then there is nothing to pop their tire.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
I believe Jesus said that.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
what is this ATF .. last i heard it now is the AFT right from the commander in chief ..
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
fixed what the AFT isn't broken yet lol
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
Precisely the reason everyone should have a burner email account just for these types of things. Mine gets about 6,000 messages a day.
I can atleast respect (while not agee) with this...
Atleast you aren't actively lying to people and telling them not to comment because it won't do anything like some on here are.
Last edited:
Well since my comment about this being an outright lie was deleted
This is an out right fucking lie..
Don't feel like typing it all out AGAIN...
Sooo .
M855 green tip 2015
Stabilizing braces 2020
PutnamCharlie
6.5 Creedmoor
Hopefully more people realize what this proposal will do. It's not just about the AR or ghost guns. It will also change rules on many of the handguns being produced. Background checks on uppers and slides because they will now be serialized. So far only 35,600 comments is not going to stop this shit.
Comments on Proposed Rule 2021R-05 | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Between May 21 and August 19, 2021, ATF received over 290,000 comments on the proposed rule, Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms. ATF specifically requested comments on the feasibility of implementing the new definition of firearm “frame or receiver” in 27 CFR 478.11...
No its more like people don't care.. they would actually rather the anti gunners get their way so they can come on forums like this and bitch and complain because to them going over and leaving a quick professional comment is more difficult to do
PutnamCharlie
6.5 Creedmoor
You will when they come to take your guns.
So the M855 and Brace rule proposals had one thing in common. Election year politics. In 2016 Hillary was trying to get elected against a “pro gun” candidate the republicans put up. In 2020 Trump was trying for re-election and after the bump stock fiasco he could not afford any anti gun govt flunky producing rules that shows him to be the slightest bit anti gun.
Biden is anti gun and will not be seeking re-election this will be an uphill fight compared to the other two. Not that it cannot be won in the court of public opinion but it will need to be tied to the midterms if it is to get any pressure from the Whitehouse.
It also had how many comments?
Look at how many comments there were for thr m855 vs trumps ban on bump stocks
Look at how many comments there were for thr m855 vs trumps ban on bump stocks
Here’s a thread regarding the matter since it doesn’t seem to be gaining much traction anywhere else on this forum and I’d like for it to get seen by as many members as possible. I made sure I left a comment regarding the new proposed stance made by the ATF regarding pistol braces. Everyone else should make sure they do as well. Click the attached link and scroll down to “Submit a comment”, it’s very simple and easy. Too many people like to complain, whine, and spend hours arguing online regarding firearm restrictions (which I agree are ridiculous to begin with) but are too lazy to spend a few minutes to type a quick well thought out comment that could possibly help stop the ATF implementing additional unconstitutional restrictions on our rights. Do your part and spend literally a few minutes to make your voice heard. This is not my quote, but it’s still a good one nonetheless...
“If you don’t care for incoming “brace ban” because “I don’t use braces”, then you are part of the problem. One day they will take something what you “use”, but then probably you will have nothing left to fight for…
I don’t care if you are Democrat or Republican or Independent - we as gun owners, we have to stay United and work together to preserve 2A rights. There is nothing left to “compromise”. People before us were compromising since early 1900 and look where we are today…Both parties screwing gun owners and both parties politicians must be watched and hold accountable for their actions.”
www.atf.gov
“If you don’t care for incoming “brace ban” because “I don’t use braces”, then you are part of the problem. One day they will take something what you “use”, but then probably you will have nothing left to fight for…
I don’t care if you are Democrat or Republican or Independent - we as gun owners, we have to stay United and work together to preserve 2A rights. There is nothing left to “compromise”. People before us were compromising since early 1900 and look where we are today…Both parties screwing gun owners and both parties politicians must be watched and hold accountable for their actions.”
Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached “Stabilizing Braces” | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
On January 13, 2023, the Attorney General signed ATF final rule 2021R-08F, “Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached ‘Stabilizing Braces,’” amending ATF’s regulations to clarify when a rifle is designed, made, and intended to be fired from the shoulder. The final rule was published in the...