He arrived and left in a conveyance.
Florida Fish and game warden knows and respects the law
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He arrived and left in a conveyance.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
What? OMG. Irrelevant. It was his own car! Dude. You need help. He should get trespassed from his own car?
Thanks for your opinion. And again, he was warned to leave. He wasn't charged with a crime. When he was told it was time to go, he got in his minivan and ran away, just like all of the fake tough guys do.
con·vey·ance
/kənˈvāəns/
noun
- 1.the action or process of transporting someone or something from one place to another:"he was building vessels for the conveyance of live cod"synonymstransportation, transport, carriage, carrying, transfer, ... more
- 2.the legal process of transferring property from one owner to another:"protective measures that might be taken before the conveyance is concluded"synonymstransfer, transference, transferral, granting, ceding, ... more
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You cannot get trespassed from a public place when no crime is committed. That’s like you being warned to leave a public area like a road for no reason when you have every legal right to be there.
Well he was, so yes you can.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
How about you post the definition in the actual law? Again. So what is he getting trespassed from? His own car or from underneath the bridge which isn’t a conveyance?
You are being foolish.
- Conveyance: means any motor vehicle, ship, vessel, railroad vehicle or car, trailer, aircraft, or sleeping car; and "to enter a conveyance" includes taking apart any portion of the conveyance. See Florida Statutes 760.10
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That’s why the Game Warden told him to take them to court. It was illegal for them to do so. You are championing right’s violations.Well he was, so yes you can.
Your google search and 5 minutes of research does not make you the authority on Florida law. I'll go with the 10 or so cops on scene over your understanding of a paragraph you read somewhere online.
The game warden did not tell him anything was illegal. He simply told him the side of the road is not where to argue with police and that he isn't going to win his argument and that is why courts exist. He was trying to calm the guy down. You are inserting your own events to make it be what you want it to be.
I guess you missed this from a Criminal Defense Attorney in Florida!
Trespass in a Conveyance in Florida
In Florida, the crime of Trespass in a Conveyance is committed when a person willfully enters or remains in a conveyance without being authorized, licensed, or invited or refuses to exit after being asked by an owner to do so.
www.richardhornsby.com
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I did read that. Quote the actual part in the law that applies to him. You have serious comprehension issues.I guess you missed this from a Criminal Defense Attorney in Florida!
Trespass in a Conveyance in Florida
In Florida, the crime of Trespass in a Conveyance is committed when a person willfully enters or remains in a conveyance without being authorized, licensed, or invited or refuses to exit after being asked by an owner to do so.www.richardhornsby.com
Armed Trespass in a Conveyance
The crime of Armed Trespass in a Conveyance is a Third Degree Felony and is a Level 3 Offense under Florida’s Criminal Punishment Code.
A person is considered armed if they are in possession of a firearm or other dangerous weapon when the trespass occurs.
If convicted of Armed Trespass in a Conveyance, a judge can impose any combination of the following penalties:
- Up to five (5) years in jail.
- Up to five (5) years of probation.
- Up to $5,000 in fines.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And what conveyance was he in when he was fishing?
How did he get there and how did he leave? The Game Warden was not his friend (Where is your car?) This douche set himself up plain and simple!! Thinking he was so smart!!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
OMG. So are you saying that he was getting trespassed from his own car? Is that what you are saying?
It’s not worth even responding to what you are posting at this point. You cannot understand plain English. That trespass law is for being trespassed from a conveyance. Someone that controls that conveyance has to trespass you from it. IE a bus or train.
Man. You are __________!
You don't have to be in a conveyance to be trespassing. This is a very similar situation and was upheld by Florida District Court AND the Eleventh Circuit Court Of Appeals. I guess you don't know as much as you think you do!
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On July 19, 2019, the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals decided Watkins v. Miller[i], in which the court examined whether, in response to a 911 call regarding a man in a parking lot, an officer violated the Fourth or Fourteenth […]
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Just remember this...
I did not comment, positive or negative, about the officers.
I did not comment on rules, laws or rights that may or may not have been violated.
I only commented on the fact, as I see it, the Fisher guy acted and sounded like o douche bag.
If he were have dealt with me in the same manner, he would have had a bad day as well.
He started being a douche right from the start. He knew some citizens would call the police the way he was dressed. He knew the Police would have to show up. This was a planned thing in his mind. This is the biggest reason I claim him to be a douchebag!
I did not comment, positive or negative, about the officers.
I did not comment on rules, laws or rights that may or may not have been violated.
I only commented on the fact, as I see it, the Fisher guy acted and sounded like o douche bag.
If he were have dealt with me in the same manner, he would have had a bad day as well.
He started being a douche right from the start. He knew some citizens would call the police the way he was dressed. He knew the Police would have to show up. This was a planned thing in his mind. This is the biggest reason I claim him to be a douchebag!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That’s private property. You guys really need to proofread what you post. Every post you guys make, make you look even more ignorant and uneducated.You don't have to be in a conveyance to be trespassing. This is a very similar situation and was upheld by Florida District Court AND the Eleventh Circuit Court Of Appeals. I guess you don't know as much as you think you do!
OFFICER SUED FOR ISSUING MAN TRESPASS WARNING AND TELLING HIM TO LEAVE PREMISES - LLRMI - Police Training and Expert Services for Law Enforcement, Jails & Corrections, Insurance Pools, Risk Managers, and Attorneys
On July 19, 2019, the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals decided Watkins v. Miller[i], in which the court examined whether, in response to a 911 call regarding a man in a parking lot, an officer violated the Fourth or Fourteenth […]
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
So you would dishonor your oath and violate his rights because you didn’t like the level of submission he would have given you or the weapon he chose to open carry with?
How was he being a douchbag? By not wanting to provide ID? Did he curse them out?
Now that's FUNNY THERE!!!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Why is that funny? That trespass case has nothing to do with the situation here? Was he on private property? Did someone on private property that owned the place tell him to leave?
11:30 of your video!!
Nope, I would not have charged him with the gun charges. Never have in all my working career baged someone with gun violations.
There would be other things that I would have charged him with. I could completely inspect his tackle Box and rods. I could written him for the broken twilight on the van, well his girlfriend would have gotten the ticket.
As soon as he decided to argue about the tresspass, he would have been taken to jail for refusing to obey the tresspass.
Many ways around things, it is all in the articulation.
Again, this occurred because he, the DB, wanted it to occur
I guess it's you who cannot read.
"Lastly, Watkins’ argument that officer was not the “owner or authorized person” to issue a criminal trespass warning was also without merit because this was not a “structure or conveyance,” the only two places with that requirement."
You truly have no concept of the laws or court decisions. You believe that you do, but you are clueless.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
But why? Why would you fish for an offense? What did he do exactly that would have hurt your ego? The ID? The not wanting to turn the camera off? What was it exactly that would have put you on fishing mode to fuck with an American exercising his rights?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Explain please.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
It was private property owned by the store. What don’t you understand about that? How does that have any relevance to a public fishing area?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
It’s a county park. You cannot be trespassed from a public area if no crime is committed.
Because it proves that the police can trespass you without being owners of the property.