Forgotten weapons look at a cool NEW bulpup

[Edwardteach72]

Never liked bullpups. The standard 16" AR15 has sufficient ballistics and handiness for most uses.

I always liked the look of the AUG and FAMAS

 

[Podmonkey]

I always liked the look of the AUG and FAMAS

AUG sucks. Or at least the knock off ones did.
The FAMAS apparently doesn't but we will never have one so who cares?

 

[Marine Cpl]

Never liked bullpups. The standard 16" AR15 has sufficient ballistics and handiness for most uses.

But an SBR bullpup is even handier. I used to have one. Well not in an SBR. A bullpup SKS . Since the weight was all in the back against the shoulder, it felt like it weighed nothing. The front was so light.

 

[Podmonkey]

But an SBR bullpup is even handier. I used to have one. Well not in an SBR. A bullpup SKS . Since the weight was all in the back against the shoulder, it felt like it weighed nothing. The front was so light.

I'd rather not have my workspace up my armpit thank you.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I'd rather not have my workspace up my armpit thank you.

Old wife's tale that's never really happened. Just like appendix carry being dangerous.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Old wife's tale that's never really happened. Just like appendix carry being dangerous.

Wait but it's not. The "workspace" of a bulpup legit is in the "armpit" area

 

[Podmonkey]

Old wife's tale that's never really happened. Just like appendix carry being dangerous.

NEIN, Ich will es nicht!!

 

[Marine Cpl]

Wait but it's not. The "workspace" of a bulpup legit is in the "armpit" area

Lol. I mean catastrophic failures. You knew what I meant.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Lol. I mean catastrophic failures. You knew what I meant.

I know nothing

 

[Podmonkey]

I know nothing

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[Podmonkey]

 

[Edwardteach72]

Not the most exciting video but Desert Tech update on the problems InRange found with their rifle

 

[Podmonkey]

It would seem that the fixes and improvements were effective. However they didn't shoot any steel case which is a thing that makes me go hmnnn.

 

[Robin]

I like the idea of a bullpup type gun, short and compact, easy to maneuver. One problem, hearing damage. much of the damage to hearing cannot be protected with plugs and muffs, because it is caused by the concussion going up through the jaw bone, and with the face right over the chamber it seems that damage would be exacerbated. Plus you are that much closer to the muzzle. Too late for me, I'm only thinking of the children.
Robin

 

[Marine Cpl]

I like the idea of a bullpup type gun, short and compact, easy to maneuver. One problem, hearing damage. much of the damage to hearing cannot be protected with plugs and muffs, because it is caused by the concussion going up through the jaw bone, and with the face right over the chamber it seems that damage would be exacerbated. Plus you are that much closer to the muzzle. Too late for me, I'm only thinking of the children.
Robin

I had an SKS bullpup. Never had such issues of concussions or noise. I only wore orange, foam ear plugs.

 

[Podmonkey]

I still can't deal with armpit mag changes and the inability to readily inspect and access the action to verify status and clear malfs. No good mang, no good.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I can't help you with the armpits though but you can check the chamber just like any rifle. Just pull back the charging handle.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I like the idea of a bullpup type gun, short and compact, easy to maneuver. One problem, hearing damage. much of the damage to hearing cannot be protected with plugs and muffs, because it is caused by the concussion going up through the jaw bone, and with the face right over the chamber it seems that damage would be exacerbated. Plus you are that much closer to the muzzle. Too late for me, I'm only thinking of the children.
Robin

I don't have any problems with my RFB and I even have a flash comp on it.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I can't help you with the armpits though but you can check the chamber just like any rifle. Just pull back the charging handle.

Yup. It's just 90 degrees in the other direction, pull the bolt and look inside. I agree the mag changes take getting used to though.

 

[Robin]

The damage is cumulative. It'll catch up to you, give it time.
Robin

 

[Marine Cpl]

The damage is cumulative. It'll catch up to you, give it time.
Robin

Are you making this up out of thin air? I've actually had one and it was no louder or concussive then before I bullpupped the SKS. Have you ever heard of European, Israeli and Australian troops going deaf?

Lots of myths lately.

 

[Robin]

Making it up? No. My thoughts on the bullpup being more severe in relation to hearing related issues are conjecture based on what I have read and what I consider a logical conclusion.
Lots of denial lately.
Robin

 

[Podmonkey]

I can't help you with the armpits though but you can check the chamber just like any rifle. Just pull back the charging handle.

And look at what? On the MDR you will be looking at the port cover.

 

[Podmonkey]

Are you making this up out of thin air? I've actually had one and it was no louder or concussive then before I bullpupped the SKS. Have you ever heard of European, Israeli and Australian troops going deaf?

Lots of myths lately.

Sound does conduct readily through the jaw and cheek bones hence conductive headphones.
However since the sound and blast is almost entirely directed down the barrel and out the muzzle @Robin's concern I don't think is valid.
However since the muzzle is that much closer to your face that could could be an issue, but certainly not as much as with an SBR.

 

[Edwardteach72]

There is no getting around that diagnosing and clearing malfunctions with any bulpup is in no way as intuitive or fast as with a standard style rifle

This one may be much better than the others out there and actually good enough that it could be negligible but again ergonomics and everything considered bullpups will never be as nice as a standard rifle

 

[Podmonkey]

There is no getting around that diagnosing and clearing malfunctions with any bulpup is in no way as intuitive or fast as with a standard style rifle

This one may be much better than the others out there and actually good enough that it could be negligible but again ergonomics and everything considered bullpups will never be as nice as a standard rifle

Conventional layout > bullpup layout.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Conventional layout > bullpup layout.

And I actually like bullpups as a concept, but sadly it just doesnt lend itself to being a great fighting rifle. Even though I do think this MDR gets pretty damn close

 

[Robin]

Sound does conduct readily through the jaw and cheek bones hence conductive headphones.
However since the sound and blast is almost entirely directed down the barrel and out the muzzle @Robin's concern I don't think is valid.
However since the muzzle is that much closer to your face that could could be an issue, but certainly not as much as with an SBR.

Oh, my 'concern' is valid all right.
Concussive force: the silent variable in hearing loss
Robin

 

[Calculon]

Interesting article but light on solutions. Only solution they mention is a muzzle break which we can’t have with a detachable mag in NY.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Interesting article but light on solutions. Only solution they mention is a muzzle break which we can’t have with a detachable mag in NY.

Based on that article, the concussive force comes from the end of the muzzle hence the muzzle brake.