ADK
.40 S&W
https://www.pdcn.org/DocumentCenter/View/113
See Chapter 1 section B ...... TYPES OF PISTOL LICENSES
See Chapter 1 section B ...... TYPES OF PISTOL LICENSES
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From then Nassau county Police Department....
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Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
typical New Yorkistan bullshit. you can have a gun, just not anyones that are on the market today, or tomorrow, or ever
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You made me download this again? 
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I just read the whole thing. What a joke. Makes me want to go to a Nassau gun shop, make it known I have a pistol to a cop there and then make a big show about going to the mall while I'm there to see what happens.
ADK
.40 S&W
Willjr75 said:You made me download this again?
Now you have a second copy you lucky guy!
You know Will, Laws are made not for what you can do but for what you can not do.
Think of it this way. You can not smoke in a public building..... That is Law
But you can smoke elsewhere. That is not a Law.
You can drive a car on your own property without a drivers license. That is not Law
You can not drive a car on a public highway with out a license. That is Law.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
But those aren't laws in that pamphlet.
What an overbearing pile of crap that goes beyond the laws as written.
I can hardly wait for the other counties to copy it and do the same shit.
I can hardly wait for the other counties to copy it and do the same shit.
ADK
.40 S&W
There are guidelines Will and some of it is Law. It appears you expect the law to say you can carry with a restricted permit anywhere.
When what you should be looking at is what you can not do.
Had a friend of mine who had a salvage yard and he had environmental problems in his yard. The town was on his ass for violations. His yard was fenced. One day a storm took out his fence. One day he is in court and the code enforcement officer tells him and his wife they can not put the fence back up. Hummmmmm Well the code enforcement officer wanted to view his property for violations so he told them it was against the law to put up a fence. Actually no such law existed in this case but what the hell if they are so stupid to not replace the fence the code enforcement officer can visually check them out anytime even if the property is posted.
When what you should be looking at is what you can not do.
Had a friend of mine who had a salvage yard and he had environmental problems in his yard. The town was on his ass for violations. His yard was fenced. One day a storm took out his fence. One day he is in court and the code enforcement officer tells him and his wife they can not put the fence back up. Hummmmmm Well the code enforcement officer wanted to view his property for violations so he told them it was against the law to put up a fence. Actually no such law existed in this case but what the hell if they are so stupid to not replace the fence the code enforcement officer can visually check them out anytime even if the property is posted.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I don't get your point. What is it you are trying to say? Penal law 400 says....
(f) have and carry concealed, without regard to employment or place of possession, by any person when proper cause exists for the issuance thereof;
There is no such thing as a restricted license.
(f) have and carry concealed, without regard to employment or place of possession, by any person when proper cause exists for the issuance thereof;
There is no such thing as a restricted license.
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ADK
.40 S&W
The key word is Proper Cause. The judge decides the proper cause is for you to have an unrestricted permit.
If a cop stops you, you are hiking, going hunting, going target shooting and walla that restricted pistol permit is the same as a full carry.
It's just the liberaltards trying to BS you to death that your restricted permit is somehow restricted.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
So you agree that there is no such thing as restricted. Some of your posts seem to say otherwise unless I've totally misunderstood them.
Proper cause for carrying arms is the desire to carry arms.
ADK
.40 S&W
If you had a permit that said for hunting, fishing, target shooting, hiking or whatever it is restricted on it's face only. Which means squat unless you are dumber that a piglet and told the cop when he asked you why are you carrying a gun and you told him for personal protection.
This is all about the liberals not wanting everyday people walking around with guns.
Personally I don't know any cop that would make a big deal about it anyway. He knows you are a good guy when you produce your permit.
This is all about the liberals not wanting everyday people walking around with guns.
Personally I don't know any cop that would make a big deal about it anyway. He knows you are a good guy when you produce your permit.
Sorry, I could not do much else except laugh as I read through much of that dribble. Nearly all of it is against the law. Granted, they break the Laws of the State, so not too many really care.
This is one of those written documents that should be investigated and fought in every level of our courts.
Glad I never went through that Bullshit, I am sorry that anyone does.
This is one of those written documents that should be investigated and fought in every level of our courts.
Glad I never went through that Bullshit, I am sorry that anyone does.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
- (N) GOOD MORAL CHARACTER: not evincing a propensity to disregard lawful authority.
Here's your 'permit' Mr. Lamb.
'N' was as far as I got, you have got to be kidding me!
Robin
Magnus
6.5 Creedmoor
If I read this correctly they state that you need proper cause. They define proper cause. They state proper cause is not enough...well isn't that some shit.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Yossarians dilema: "Catch-22. Anyone who wants to get out of combat duty isn't really crazy." There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's own safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind.
Magnus
6.5 Creedmoor
That's a very good book to reference in my
Amendment.
Proper cause:
Life is in constant danger through no fault of my own. Millions of people trying to kill me daily. Not allowed to loiter in police stations.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That's a blanket statement. Not all cops are like that.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Yes, there is in the sense that they will and can pull the license for breaking the rules. Not an illegal possession but they will take the license away
ADK
.40 S&W
I would think Will that unless you get testy with a cop he could care less if you had a restricted license.
As I said before I have never heard of anyone loosing their license for simply carrying on a restricted license.
Nor have I ever seen any case law where a permit holder using sound judgment and going about his daily business
ever lost his license.
I was trying to point out On page 8 section C of my link the explanations one might use if ever questioned as to why they are carrying.
As you said there is no such thing as a restricted permit...... If you know the Law.
Because permits are administrative they give the judges more leeway to mess with peoples rights. When one considers the 14th amendment
of our worthless constitution it seems unlawful that one person living in one county gets a restricted permit and the other county gets a full carry.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
So you think that cop who went out of his way to count the rounds of a passenger in Lockport that wasn't even driving but declared he was licensed and armed at the traffic stop wouldn't care?
What you say is true for the most part but there are cops out there who don't want you to be armed. I mean look at the Nassau County pamphlet you posted. I'm sure there are at least a few cops in that department who will enforce that illegal pamphlet.
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ECU Pirates
.308 Win
It only takes one cop to ruin a life. If 99% won't care you could end up with the 1%.
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
Which (to me) then immediately becomes some flavor of "Criminal Possession of a Weapon" as you do not any longer have a permit, but do have the listed items in your possession/on your person.
ADK
.40 S&W
I don't know anything about counting rounds in lockport. I have read the state police policy on the issue of when they can check how many rounds you have in a pistol. It came down to this. If simply checking to see if a person has a permit you can not check the magazine for bullets. A probable cause issue. With an automatic you get seven in the mag and 1 in the chamber. Yea I know you want more and so do I but I can survive on 8 rounds.
I remember when that happened in Lockport. That guy had to hire a lawyer and go to court over it, and got off when they ruled that the cop had no business to demand he unload the gun and then counted the rounds. He got screwed with pretty good.
In my own little hometown (I mean fiefdom...), I am personally aware of two cops who DO NOT like people with CCW's, - and one of them is the Chief of Police.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
It's 10 now. Even says so in Penal law 265. There is an asterisk suspending the 7 rd limit with reference to the appeals case.
Lockport was just one instance. There are others too.
First. The guy in Lockport had 15rd mags, do they not say 15 on the mag or have indicator holes on the side?
Second, In Nassau and Suffolk Counties the licence's are issued by the Police Commissioner so it may be required that the Cops report any one carrying out side of the restrictions.