Gun Ban introduced
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JohnD13
.357 mag
Peter king, what a surprise.
vanderblack
.357 mag
Any ban starts the "slippery slope." That said, Republicans are introducing a ban on bump stocks hoping to keep the ban focus on a single item. If passed and Dems circle back with more bans, Republicans are going to say, we took action, done. It is a matter of controlling the damage.
BuellSix8
.40 S&W
I remember a few years back when people were fleeing NY saying eff-NY I'm going to a free state and we tried to say that this goes beyond state lines and that it is going to be a national situation. Well, of course here we are. Maybe we (2nd amendment lovers) will be put on reservations too since we are also a dying breed. I'm here to fight this and will start my way down that list in the video for nothing else but to vent a bit.
S
stuck in ny
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Go to hell you stupid NRA sell out worthless pieces of shit staining the ass crack of the republican elethant's big fat establishmentariam rear end!!!!!!!! Go cry in your safe-act ignoring spaces!!!!!!!! You are cocksuckers who want to suck the cock of your transgender redcoat mother country!!!!!!! Go to damnation and rot in hell for a thousand year riech of shit getting raped in the ass by saudi arabian demons wearing antifa masks!!!!!!
Toecutter
.308 Win
Toecutter
.308 Win
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Bend over and take it like New York Amerika.
Well all those free states can now WAKE THE "F" UP!! These enemies to the Constitution are going to capitalize on this last shooting and we are all going to pay for it. Guess we in NY are not going to be the only ones... Misery loves Company!
GUNSICK
6.5 Creedmoor
Peter King is an asshole. All he cares about is Peter Kings bottom line.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Peter King is a Chuckie Schumer like camera and microphone whore.
Phazer
.338 Win Mag
This legislation does not simply ban "bump stocks." It states:
This is the kind of vague legislation that was passed in New York as the SAFE Act. It is nebulous and has law-abiding gun owners constantly questioning whether what they own is legal.
This kind of legislation is an open-ended dangerous farce that adds layers of ice on the slippery slope towards banning all semi-automatic firearms. After all, how do we know what device can "increase the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle" if there is no standard rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle? These firearms fire as fast as you can pull the trigger with your finger. Therefore, anything can be banned if it makes the rifle more comfortable, reduces the length of the trigger's reset, or lightens the pull weight of the trigger.
By the way, there is no "standard" trigger pull weight. So, jurisdictions will go nuts having fun defining "standard trigger pull weights." They'll arbitrarily assign weights that were never used in design specifications. They'll reference the crazy 12-pound pull weight that NYC forces on its police force for their Glock semi-auto pistols. They'll say, "Well...if it's good enough for the police, it should be good enough for civilians." But, that pull weight is not good. It decreases accuracy and makes follow-up shots difficult (ergo, possibly allowing errant rounds to hit unintended people).
What if someone bump-fires a rifle off of their belt loop? Well...according to the law, their belt loop is now a device that "functions to increase the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle." Are they going to be sentenced to 10 years in jail for wearing pants? Are belt loops going to be banned? No. But...legislators will decide that since we cannot stop people from doing these things with these guns, the only sensible thing to do is to ban the guns themselves.
This legislation is a not-so-disguised attempt to ban all semiautomatic firearms.
We should not have to stand for elected officials destroying constitutional rights with intentionally vague laws.
to prohibit the manufacture,
possession, or transfer of any part or combination
of parts that is designed and functions to increase
the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but does not
convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machinegun, and
for other purposes.
possession, or transfer of any part or combination
of parts that is designed and functions to increase
the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but does not
convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machinegun, and
for other purposes.
This is the kind of vague legislation that was passed in New York as the SAFE Act. It is nebulous and has law-abiding gun owners constantly questioning whether what they own is legal.
This kind of legislation is an open-ended dangerous farce that adds layers of ice on the slippery slope towards banning all semi-automatic firearms. After all, how do we know what device can "increase the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle" if there is no standard rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle? These firearms fire as fast as you can pull the trigger with your finger. Therefore, anything can be banned if it makes the rifle more comfortable, reduces the length of the trigger's reset, or lightens the pull weight of the trigger.
By the way, there is no "standard" trigger pull weight. So, jurisdictions will go nuts having fun defining "standard trigger pull weights." They'll arbitrarily assign weights that were never used in design specifications. They'll reference the crazy 12-pound pull weight that NYC forces on its police force for their Glock semi-auto pistols. They'll say, "Well...if it's good enough for the police, it should be good enough for civilians." But, that pull weight is not good. It decreases accuracy and makes follow-up shots difficult (ergo, possibly allowing errant rounds to hit unintended people).
What if someone bump-fires a rifle off of their belt loop? Well...according to the law, their belt loop is now a device that "functions to increase the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle." Are they going to be sentenced to 10 years in jail for wearing pants? Are belt loops going to be banned? No. But...legislators will decide that since we cannot stop people from doing these things with these guns, the only sensible thing to do is to ban the guns themselves.
This legislation is a not-so-disguised attempt to ban all semiautomatic firearms.
We should not have to stand for elected officials destroying constitutional rights with intentionally vague laws.
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Burzum
.223 Rem
Look Peter-beater King sucks, but to all you W-lovers, Alito and Roberts on the US Supreme Court are why we do NOT have a ruling protecting sporter rifles and their lawful possession, along with W.'s administration trying to have Heller watered down.
Magnus
6.5 Creedmoor
Do you guys want to chip in and send King a gallon of shit? It'll be like looking in a mirror when he opens up the box.
I made some calls, got no answers. Sent some emails. I've drawn my own line in the sand. I've worked very hard to move out of NY, I won't comply with any further gun legislation. If anything passes the second civil war needs to start right there and then.
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The country is phucked. There is no way this is not going to pass, it has rino, democrap, and nra backing. It's "common sense gun legislation" taking notes straight from Andy's safe act with all the vagueness. Has the possibility to make all of us criminals again.
Phazer
.338 Win Mag
Stay tuned. The seeds for a national ban on semiautomatic firearms are about to be sewn.
Anyone else notice that both H.R.3999 and S.1916 are written such that they are limited to just semi-auto rifles?
I find that interesting that both handguns and shotguns were specifically not included.
S.1916 full text:
https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pu...71B98A52.automatic-gunfire-prevention-act.pdf
I find that interesting that both handguns and shotguns were specifically not included.
S.1916 full text:
https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pu...71B98A52.automatic-gunfire-prevention-act.pdf
Phazer
.338 Win Mag
They know that restricting rifles won't decrease "gun deaths" or "gun violence." So, after they ban semiautomatic rifles, they'll claim that "gun violence is still too prevalent" and that additional restrictions are still required. Then they'll go after handguns.
As the old adage says, "How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time."
The modern day corollary for Liberal Progressive Democrats: "How do effectively eliminate the 2nd amendment with out changing the constitution? One firearm platform at a time."
You must know some different Republicans than I do..
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
So if one has a trigger job done on a gun .. Can it be said we have increased the rate of fire also .... even if minutely =
felony
felony
Magnus
6.5 Creedmoor
Also any finger strengthening devices you own.
Phazer
.338 Win Mag
Yes.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
I understand that there are already politicians and consultants making that claim to activists. There are discussions that low pull weights and short resets will be challenged.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Kinda like the one's who stopped SAFE from getting rammed through...oh wait
Phazer
.338 Win Mag
Right after the passage of this legislation, are they going to arrest and imprison Jerry Miculek? Or, will they offer him leniency if he allows his middle three fingers of each hand to be amputated since they are apparently "devices capable of increasing the rate of fire of semiautomatic firearms?"
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Pete King is a NeoCon of the highest order.. What a piece of shit whatever their excuse, acting out of fear is always a loosing proposition. Of course many of these RINO's and NeoCons really do believe its bad and must be banned and it isn't a long stretch to go from this to every scary riffle.
I'd sooner die.