How to Engage the Police While Open Carrying a Firearm .. my RANT

[GOPerfect]

Well, wrong....

I have stated numerous times that I began doing this many, many years ago. Long before getting my current job.

Maybe your age has affected your ability to read all of the posts. Not trying to be all negative like you, I have chosen to push the laws in NY as far as possible. You have chosen to follow each and every law perfectly to the letter. Good for you, when something is wrong or incorrect, I do what I can to ensure as many as possible learn the truth about Unconstitutional laws.

I go to rallies, I even speak at some of them. I am active in many things to assist in changing laws in our once great State. I do not just sit behind a keyboard running off at the mouth with incorrect and cowardly statements.

 

[SteyrAug]

Most of the members are not Leos and cannot assume they can do or will be treated like an Leo by Leos or the Courts.

In super blue NY, civilians with handguns should not be open carrying in public. Regardless of how you may wish the law were or how important your rights are,
the fact remains civilians with handguns frighten all the sheep who love Cuomo.

You want to throw yourself under the bus, have at it. My current domicile is in a state that just expunged its last gun law (concealed carry permit requirement) but should I come back to the empire state I will be sure to obey every nuance of every gun law. To do otherwise is to wear a big I'M STUPID sign around the neck.

 

[SteyrAug]

BUT, the laws have NOT been changed and Joe average should not be mislead into thinking what you chose to do is okay for him.

Avoid the cheap shots about my age, I'll be up on Jordan looking for Bighorn this fall while you sit behind a desk/steering wheel.

10,000 ft would have you puffing the like the Little Engine That Could !

 

[Marine Cpl]

Funny thing in NY State. There are exemptions in the Law that allow some to carry a gun without a permit.

Law Enforcement for example. Most departments do not require the officer to have a Pistol Permit, some do. The Penal Laws do not talk about these exemptions at all in regards to "Have and carry concealed". The Carry Concealed refers only to Permit Carriers. No where in the States' laws do they discuss the Open Carry of an off duty officer who chooses to Open Carry. Is it legal??????

Correct. Leo and active military in performance of their duties are given a general exemption. It doesn't say whether they must carry open or concealed. Us licensee's however are not given general exemptions and must carry concealed as per the specific wording of the exemption.

 

[GOPerfect]

Correct. Leo and active military in performance of their duties are given a general exemption. It doesn't say whether they must carry open or concealed. Us licensee's however are not given general exemptions and must carry concealed as per the specific wording of the exemption.

My point exactly Will, the laws of NY and other States are written so poorly it makes it near impossible to follow them.

Really makes me want to vomit. I would love to see some laws that are worded in simple terms and are easy to follow!

 

[Marine Cpl]

My point exactly Will, the laws of NY and other States are written so poorly it makes it near impossible to follow them.

Really makes me want to vomit. I would love to see some laws that are worded in simple terms and are easy to follow!

Lol.

 

[SteyrAug]

Were they not written poorly (by attorneys) then attorneys would be mostly out of work.

 

[Airborneguy]

I never needed to ride a horse over 10,000'. We humped our 70lb packs ourselves. Less weight now, but I still do it myself like a real man whenever I am in Colorado.

 

[SteyrAug]

Well, if you want to do it the hard way, God bless you.

"Never walk when you can ride."

 

[GOPerfect]

BUT, the laws have NOT been changed and Joe average should not be mislead into thinking what you chose to do is okay for him.

Avoid the cheap shots about my age, I'll be up on Jordan looking for Bighorn this fall while you sit behind a desk/steering wheel.

10,000 ft would have you puffing the like the Little Engine That Could !

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I do miss riding...

Used to ride all the time when I was in Texas. Upon retirement, I will have horses. Great creatures indeed.

 

[dwa12479]

My point exactly Will, the laws of NY and other States are written so poorly it makes it near impossible to follow them.

Really makes me want to vomit. I would love to see some laws that are worded in simple terms and are easy to follow!

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."

-Ayn Rand-

 

[SteyrAug]

She was correct, but why put yourself in Cuomo's sights when there is nothing to be gained ?

No point in "expressing yourself" when you are gonna lose. Wait for the great collapse, we'll need you then.

 

[dwa12479]

She was correct, but why put yourself in Cuomo's sights when there is nothing to be gained ?

No point in "expressing yourself" when you are gonna lose. Wait for the great collapse, we'll need you then.

My post was made in conjunction with a specific statement from @GOPerfect. That's all, don't read more into it than is there.

 

[SteyrAug]

As Dean Wormer would say: "a double double secret."

 

[dwa12479]

As Dean Wormer would say: "a double double secret."

No.. no hidden meanings or codes.

And I think you're looking for "Double Secret Probation..." but thanks for playing though. Must be the thin air up there.

 

[Podmonkey]

Ya know, I think I might have to disinvite you to my house, lol.

Just don't feed me a buffet. Or Huddle House food.

 

[SteyrAug]

"Must be the thin air up there."

Yup thin, clean and free from NY libtard BS.

As for Wormer ...... gee thanks, satire is not your strong suite is it ?

 

[Darth]

Avoid the cheap shots about my age, I'll be up on Jordan looking for Bighorn this fall while you sit behind a desk/steering wheel.

10,000 ft would have you puffing the like the Little Engine That Could !

Yeah guys, no more cheap shots about stupid shit.



"I rode a horse up a hill. WITH THIN AIR!"

I dove hundreds of feet underwater inside WWII shipwrecks with NO air. 150 ft would have you drowning like little children at a Tommy Lee pool party.

j/k bro, I know you're trolling and such. Hence the lack of, well, anything of substance. Cheers.

 

[GOPerfect]

Yeah guys, no more cheap shots about stupid shit.

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"I rode a horse up a hill. WITH THIN AIR!"

I dove hundreds of feet underwater inside WWII shipwrecks with NO air. 150 ft would have you drowning like little children at a Tommy Lee pool party.

j/k bro, I know you're trolling and such. Hence the lack of, well, anything of substance. Cheers.

Holy shit, even the newest troll called you fat Darth! What the hell is up with that?

 

[Darth]

Holy shit, even the newest troll called you fat Darth! What the hell is up with that?

Unfortunatly that was actually directed at @GUNSICK, or I'd have on the spot.

 

[SteyrAug]

With these girlie men in charge it's easy to see why NY is the place it has become.

 

[spat]

Oh and menacing absolutely cannot be charged on someone simply open carrying. At worst it's a permit violation.

Well, they can charge you with murder for open carrying, they just won't be able to make it stick. Unless you have the std magazine guy's lawyer, then they could charge you with the JFK assassination and make it stick.....

 

[Darth]

With these girlie men in charge it's easy to see why NY is the place it has become.

100% agreed!

People that think you should kowtow and "just do what you are told" from the cops, people that assume guilty until proven innocent, people that think a "FIGHT ME IRL" response is appropriate for anything are all reasons NY has gone down the shitter.

 

[SteyrAug]

I prefer not to be a martyr for a lost cause. Given enough rope NY will collapse. The major banks and exchanges will not forever ignore the reality of doing business in a pro business state makes sense.

 

[Darth]

I prefer not to be a martyr for a lost cause. Given enough rope NY will collapse. The major banks and exchanges will not forever ignore the reality of doing business in a pro business state makes sense.

Here is the legitimate problem I have with you. Not the idiotic "I'm a badass" nonsense, not the "Fight me IRL" crap.

My problems is, YOU GET IT!

YOU ABSOLUTELY GET IT! We all do!

So either you get it and are being a troll (which is funny for a few minutes, but then dies off)... OR new material is needed, OR, you are just an extremely bad business person.

 

[spat]

but should I come back to the empire state I will be sure to obey every nuance of every gun law. To do otherwise is to wear a big I'M STUPID sign around the neck.

LOL, good luck with that, you would have to figure out what they actually mean first, and *nobody* has managed to do that with SAFE.

 

[Acer-m14]

My point exactly Will, the laws of NY and other States are written so poorly it makes it near impossible to follow them.

Really makes me want to vomit. I would love to see some laws that are worded in simple terms and are easy to follow!

isn't the Constitution written in plain English so the low farmer could understand .. were F'd .. but i get ya @GOPerfect

 

[SteyrAug]

I don't really get what is confusing about SAFE. You can make it very hard if you wish by putting your own agenda over it.

Tell me what confuses you. With my ususal brilliance I "splain' " it to you.

 

[nortatoga]

 

[Podmonkey]

little billy badass hoppin' through the forest, scoopin' up the field mice an' boppin' em on the head.................
That goes for the Lockport Travesty thread too.