I want a lever rifle - help me choose!

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meketrefe said:
The 9mm is perfect for a 358 winchester. The key is the quality of the insert and how is intended.
In some other guns you have semi permanent inserts that you stick in the chamber with blue locktite but then
you have milder ammo that cycles w/o problems for the given magazine.

In reality I never fully understood tube fed lever guns specially with the type of bolt actions one has today with detachable magazines
and the whole nine yards. They are faster, more accurate, more reliable and repeatable.

I understand some folks like the cowboy style but for any practical and modern use why go back in time? so many options with lever action including straight pulls
and rapid actions. Also can be run w/o interference prone and from a bench unlike lever guns.
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Tube magazines work better for rimmed cartridges. A tube magazine lay flush under the barrel and allows a greater capacity than a flush fitting box magazine. This is a useful feature for use in dense woods or underbrush.
Lever guns in general are handier than bolt guns and the action is certainly faster than a bolt action. If I had a large property that I patrolled horseback it would probably be a lever action in a scabbard I would have with me. For HD in communist states like NY a lever action is not a bad option. Lever action rifles will probably be the last guns to be banned. Likewise in a SHTF situation a lever action slung over your shoulder is likely to draw less negative attention than most any othe long gun.
Lever actions are more fun to shoot than a bolt action.
Finally the lever action rifle is a uniquely American firearm, the heritage factor can't be denied.
 
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Podmonkey said:
Tube magazines work better for rimmed cartridges. A tube magazine lay flush under the barrel and allows a greater capacity than a flush fitting box magazine. This is a useful feature for use in dense woods or underbrush.
Lever guns in general are handier than bolt guns and the action is certainly faster than a bolt action. If I had a large property that I patrolled horseback it would probably be a lever action in a scabbard I would have with me. For HD in communist states like NY a lever action is not a bad option. Lever action rifles will probably be the last guns to be banned. Likewise in a SHTF situation a lever action slung over your shoulder is likely to draw less negative attention than most any othe long gun.
Lever actions are more fun to shoot than a bolt action.
Finally the lever action rifle is a uniquely American firearm, the heritage factor can't be denied.
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The tubes can hold more rounds if the rounds are short rounds like pistol rounds. Then with popular high power calibers a small mag will hold about the same flush or more
slightly protruding. The advantage of the magazine is that it can be quickly reloaded and also use centerfire.
With a magazine one can also use better bullets ballistically superior w/o the problems presented by stacking in the tube.
If someone likes the lever that is one thing but we should not decide on a firearm based on what other people think or might not think about
how it looks. Eventually if they ban enough guns laws will have zero effect because people are going to keep them anyway and
disobey all these communist nonsense laws.
More fun to shoot is relative. It depends on how one shoots, what the objective is and how the firearm is conceived for the task at hand.
I don't think shooting a lever from a prom position or bench is fun. Well, it could be fun but it is totally impractical and unconformable.
That is why the bolt is a superior action in any scenario and if one wants a compact gun a handy bolt action carbine or scout might
be the ticket.

Most people think of the bolt action as one of two shot game hunting rifle but they forget how effective they are
if one trains with them like the mean it.

 
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I had a Marlin 444P a long while ago. Had to sell it to pay the tax man. One of the most accurate rifles I've ever owned. Sub-MOA groups off a bench with Remington factory ammo and a Leupold 2-7X heavy reticle scope. With Buffalo Bore loads it was a beast. Very smooth, extremely accurate - great brush gun.

MARLIN 444 P IN 444 MARLIN , PORTED for sale

ETA: the .444 Marlin is basically a stretched .44 Magnum.
 
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meketrefe said:
The tubes can hold more rounds if the rounds are short rounds like pistol rounds. Then with popular high power calibers a small mag will hold about the same flush or more
slightly protruding. The advantage of the magazine is that it can be quickly reloaded and also use centerfire.
With a magazine one can also use better bullets ballistically superior w/o the problems presented by stacking in the tube.
If someone likes the lever that is one thing but we should not decide on a firearm based on what other people think or might not think about
how it looks. Eventually if they ban enough guns laws will have zero effect because people are going to keep them anyway and
disobey all these communist nonsense laws.
More fun to shoot is relative. It depends on how one shoots, what the objective is and how the firearm is conceived for the task at hand.
I don't think shooting a lever from a prom position or bench is fun. Well, it could be fun but it is totally impractical and unconformable.
That is why the bolt is a superior action in any scenario and if one wants a compact gun a handy bolt action carbine or scout might
be the ticket.

Most people think of the bolt action as one of two shot game hunting rifle but they forget how effective they are
if one trains with them like the mean it.

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Giraffes have long necks.
 
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meketrefe said:
The tubes can hold more rounds if the rounds are short rounds like pistol rounds. Then with popular high power calibers a small mag will hold about the same flush or more
slightly protruding. The advantage of the magazine is that it can be quickly reloaded and also use centerfire.
With a magazine one can also use better bullets ballistically superior w/o the problems presented by stacking in the tube.
If someone likes the lever that is one thing but we should not decide on a firearm based on what other people think or might not think about
how it looks. Eventually if they ban enough guns laws will have zero effect because people are going to keep them anyway and
disobey all these communist nonsense laws.
More fun to shoot is relative. It depends on how one shoots, what the objective is and how the firearm is conceived for the task at hand.
I don't think shooting a lever from a prom position or bench is fun. Well, it could be fun but it is totally impractical and unconformable.
That is why the bolt is a superior action in any scenario and if one wants a compact gun a handy bolt action carbine or scout might
be the ticket.

Most people think of the bolt action as one of two shot game hunting rifle but they forget how effective they are
if one trains with them like the mean it.

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Not to mention it's much easier to clear a malfunction on a magazine fed bolt gun than on a lever with a tube.
 
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Y'know, I gotta say, 45-70 is horrible for range plinking, which is what the OP is looking to use the rifle for. Its hyper expensive and it's not pleasant to shoot.
A 45-70 is what you bring with you to brown bear country. Or if your initials are T. R. you use it to hunt lion with.
 
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Not looking at the 45-70

My original choice was the 30-30, but ammo is expensive

So would like the 45 colt above if it comes into stock
 
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Ok

Finally got something

Just bought a Marlin 1894C in .357 Magnum/38 special

And NOT from Dicks

Literally just ordered, so looking forward to picking it up from the FFL at some point in the next week or so
 
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Congrats. good choice of caliber and affordable.
With premium hunting ammo it will give you more killing power than the rather anemic 30 carbine or 300 blackout
Yet you have great deals for practice rounds or reloading on the cheap.
 
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