If you could shoot one these full auto guns, what would you pick?

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Each one of those rockets contains 644 submunitions (518 for the Extended Range rockets) each about the power of a hand grenade but the blast and shrapnel is directed in a downward cone. They detonate overhead and turn anything underneath into hamburger chunks. It was the Iraqi soldiers caught underneath that coined our prized moniker "Steel Rain".
 
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Having some limited experience with the transferable choices, I would recommend as follows:

1. Never shot before — it will be only an occasional thing

Shoot either an MP5 (indoors) or an M16 (outdoors). Either of them shoots well enough for a beginner and most shooters are already familiar with the manual of arms for the M16.

2. Like to shoot more than seldom

MP5K, Uzi, Thompson, Sterling, Swedish K (if you have 71 round drums handy), MP40, PPS/H (with drums of course), . All are great choices.

3. Advanced shooter, but don’t want any hassles or stoppages

AK family guns (including Galil and Valmet), Mini Uzi, Norell 10/22 conversions, Mac 10/11

4. More difficult guns that are nontheless rewarding to shoot

FN-FAL, HK33 family (33, 33K and 53), M249

5. Outdoors and plenty of ammo

1919 family guns (1917, 1919, M37, M73, AN-MG2), M240, M60, M249, RPD, PK and PKM, Maxim 08 and 08/15, BAR

6. Not recommended for any but the most dedicated of shooters

M14, Micro Uzi, HK G3 rifles, Lewis guns, M134 Minigun

7. Will jam constantly but still be fun as heck

American 180, Tippman .22 beltfeds

8. There also a few post-sample guns worthy of a callout

Tavor, P90, HK UMP and MP7, H&K MR556


One key note of caution: if you have not fired an open bolt gun, take some time to learn about it. It is counterintuitive to leave the bolt closed on a gun to make it safe. I have seen/heard of more ND’s out of Uzis and MP40s than with any other gun.
 
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The few times I shot FA it's been HK stuff. My vote is the MP-5 Navy. Controllable, push to your shoulder. Feels good, well balanced, not to bad to reload mags. Don't over think it, work the burst. When you're done you'll want someone to punch a trident on your chest. Hooyah!
But I'm a bit biased . . .

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CaseHardened said:
Any AUTO that ain't BELT-FED is bull crap.
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It’s all fun and games until you realize:

  • You need a pickup to transport the gun, tripod and kit to the range
  • It takes 4 hours to press link enough ammo to shoot the gun for 10 minutes
  • Hunting for the same links once buried in the sand after shooting in the burning sun is tedious and results in 80% recovery
  • You can’t shoot the belt fed offhand, so you end up sitting on an upside down Homer bucket while firing off a tripod which as it turns out is not as exciting as you think
  • .308 ammo is pretty expensive to shoot at .50 cents/pop, so the 200 round belt you linked costs $100 to fire
  • Unless you have a watercooled 1919, you have to have 4 barrels to change around (if you’re lucky enough to have an M240, where you can change barrels hot. Forget about that on an M60 unless you have an asbestos glove)
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Most of they above doesn't matter to the OP as it will be a rental gun. As for sitting on the homer bucket, get on your belly and shoot it from the bipod like yer 'sposed ta! I'd agree that shooting from a tripod is somewhat laking in visceral excitement. Unless its an M2 Browning. Might be fun to chew out the bull ring with 200 rounds from a Vickers too.
 
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The thing I liked to shoot best isn't available to civilians I don't think. The Mk19 Machine grenade launcher. Thoop, thoop ,thoop ,thoop, thoop and you've got 5 40mm greandes in the air before the first ones hits, then bang, bang, bang, bang, bang! It must be hellish to come under fire from one.
 
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Podmonkey said:
The thing I liked to shoot best isn't available to civilians I don't think. The Mk19 Machine grenade launcher. Thoop, thoop ,thoop ,thoop, thoop and you've got 5 40mm greandes in the air before the first ones hits, then bang, bang, bang, bang, bang! It must be hellish to come under fire from one.
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There is 1 — only 1 — transferable MK19 out there. It’s for sale if you want, the ask is $400K. Plus +/- $55 per shot, if you roll your own. The MK19 uses a high pressure round that is different than those used in the M203.
 
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C3D said:
There is 1 — only 1 — transferable MK19 out there. It’s for sale if you want, the ask is $400K. Plus +/- $55 per shot, if you roll your own.
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How would one roll their own 40mm grenade ammo? If I were a rich man I'd sure as hell buy it though!
 
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Podmonkey said:
MP5 will be the smoothest and most controllable. Don't discount the UZI though, things a blast to shoot, also quite controllable.
I didn't see an AK74 on there (full size, not the Krink) but if there is one they are super controllable in full auto too. Avoid any 7.62x51 or similar Rifle as they are decidedly unpleasant to shoot full auto at first.
But to be honest if you can only shoot one of those its gotta be a belt fed machinegun. Either the M240 or M249. An open bolt belt fed machine gun is unlike any of the ordinary guns we shoot as civilians. I'd go with the M240 for the maximum sturm and drang. Plus they run smooth as sewing machines. But definitely a belt fed. People think the HK slap is badass? Nothing compared to loading up a belt in the feed tray and slaping that feed cover down.
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I've heard the 74s are insanely low recoil as well. I only have AKMs, so I can't really compare -- I don't think I'd even want to use full auto on an AKM due to the recoil / accuracy limitations to begin with.
 
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