If you could shoot one these full auto guns, what would you pick?
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Have fun mortgaging your house to keep it fed.
I have a rich uncle
I fired this a few times. Lots of fun!
That is well below his budget. He normally buys F22s and AH64s
Massed battery fire:
Each one of those rockets contains 644 submunitions (518 for the Extended Range rockets) each about the power of a hand grenade but the blast and shrapnel is directed in a downward cone. They detonate overhead and turn anything underneath into hamburger chunks. It was the Iraqi soldiers caught underneath that coined our prized moniker "Steel Rain".
Each one of those rockets contains 644 submunitions (518 for the Extended Range rockets) each about the power of a hand grenade but the blast and shrapnel is directed in a downward cone. They detonate overhead and turn anything underneath into hamburger chunks. It was the Iraqi soldiers caught underneath that coined our prized moniker "Steel Rain".
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Yeah that’s what I want. And to shoot
C3D
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Having some limited experience with the transferable choices, I would recommend as follows:
1. Never shot before — it will be only an occasional thing
Shoot either an MP5 (indoors) or an M16 (outdoors). Either of them shoots well enough for a beginner and most shooters are already familiar with the manual of arms for the M16.
2. Like to shoot more than seldom
MP5K, Uzi, Thompson, Sterling, Swedish K (if you have 71 round drums handy), MP40, PPS/H (with drums of course), . All are great choices.
3. Advanced shooter, but don’t want any hassles or stoppages
AK family guns (including Galil and Valmet), Mini Uzi, Norell 10/22 conversions, Mac 10/11
4. More difficult guns that are nontheless rewarding to shoot
FN-FAL, HK33 family (33, 33K and 53), M249
5. Outdoors and plenty of ammo
1919 family guns (1917, 1919, M37, M73, AN-MG2), M240, M60, M249, RPD, PK and PKM, Maxim 08 and 08/15, BAR
6. Not recommended for any but the most dedicated of shooters
M14, Micro Uzi, HK G3 rifles, Lewis guns, M134 Minigun
7. Will jam constantly but still be fun as heck
American 180, Tippman .22 beltfeds
8. There also a few post-sample guns worthy of a callout
Tavor, P90, HK UMP and MP7, H&K MR556
One key note of caution: if you have not fired an open bolt gun, take some time to learn about it. It is counterintuitive to leave the bolt closed on a gun to make it safe. I have seen/heard of more ND’s out of Uzis and MP40s than with any other gun.
1. Never shot before — it will be only an occasional thing
Shoot either an MP5 (indoors) or an M16 (outdoors). Either of them shoots well enough for a beginner and most shooters are already familiar with the manual of arms for the M16.
2. Like to shoot more than seldom
MP5K, Uzi, Thompson, Sterling, Swedish K (if you have 71 round drums handy), MP40, PPS/H (with drums of course), . All are great choices.
3. Advanced shooter, but don’t want any hassles or stoppages
AK family guns (including Galil and Valmet), Mini Uzi, Norell 10/22 conversions, Mac 10/11
4. More difficult guns that are nontheless rewarding to shoot
FN-FAL, HK33 family (33, 33K and 53), M249
5. Outdoors and plenty of ammo
1919 family guns (1917, 1919, M37, M73, AN-MG2), M240, M60, M249, RPD, PK and PKM, Maxim 08 and 08/15, BAR
6. Not recommended for any but the most dedicated of shooters
M14, Micro Uzi, HK G3 rifles, Lewis guns, M134 Minigun
7. Will jam constantly but still be fun as heck
American 180, Tippman .22 beltfeds
8. There also a few post-sample guns worthy of a callout
Tavor, P90, HK UMP and MP7, H&K MR556
One key note of caution: if you have not fired an open bolt gun, take some time to learn about it. It is counterintuitive to leave the bolt closed on a gun to make it safe. I have seen/heard of more ND’s out of Uzis and MP40s than with any other gun.
The few times I shot FA it's been HK stuff. My vote is the MP-5 Navy. Controllable, push to your shoulder. Feels good, well balanced, not to bad to reload mags. Don't over think it, work the burst. When you're done you'll want someone to punch a trident on your chest. Hooyah!
But I'm a bit biased . . .
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But I'm a bit biased . . .
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Nothing says fuck you DIE Like a Tommy gun
M4 or an m2
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HK UMP 45?
Any AUTO that ain't BELT-FED is bull crap.
Karpteach
6.5 Creedmoor
MP5 Navy and the FN SCAR!!
Thank you!
C3D
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It’s all fun and games until you realize:
- You need a pickup to transport the gun, tripod and kit to the range
- It takes 4 hours to press link enough ammo to shoot the gun for 10 minutes
- Hunting for the same links once buried in the sand after shooting in the burning sun is tedious and results in 80% recovery
- You can’t shoot the belt fed offhand, so you end up sitting on an upside down Homer bucket while firing off a tripod which as it turns out is not as exciting as you think
- .308 ammo is pretty expensive to shoot at .50 cents/pop, so the 200 round belt you linked costs $100 to fire
- Unless you have a watercooled 1919, you have to have 4 barrels to change around (if you’re lucky enough to have an M240, where you can change barrels hot. Forget about that on an M60 unless you have an asbestos glove)
Most of they above doesn't matter to the OP as it will be a rental gun. As for sitting on the homer bucket, get on your belly and shoot it from the bipod like yer 'sposed ta! I'd agree that shooting from a tripod is somewhat laking in visceral excitement. Unless its an M2 Browning. Might be fun to chew out the bull ring with 200 rounds from a Vickers too.
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The thing I liked to shoot best isn't available to civilians I don't think. The Mk19 Machine grenade launcher. Thoop, thoop ,thoop ,thoop, thoop and you've got 5 40mm greandes in the air before the first ones hits, then bang, bang, bang, bang, bang! It must be hellish to come under fire from one.
1 belt fed machine gun
2 submachine gun. Either an mp5 navy or UMP
3 something like he scarL16
2 submachine gun. Either an mp5 navy or UMP
3 something like he scarL16
Oh........that uncle. Well who is to buy me my Hellcat then?!
C3D
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There is 1 — only 1 — transferable MK19 out there. It’s for sale if you want, the ask is $400K. Plus +/- $55 per shot, if you roll your own. The MK19 uses a high pressure round that is different than those used in the M203.
How would one roll their own 40mm grenade ammo? If I were a rich man I'd sure as hell buy it though!
libertysnake
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I've heard the 74s are insanely low recoil as well. I only have AKMs, so I can't really compare -- I don't think I'd even want to use full auto on an AKM due to the recoil / accuracy limitations to begin with.
C3D
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Used to be instructions on the Grog 40mm board, which may or may not still be working (it requires a login).
Cases are easy to come by, ogives harder.
Cases are easy to come by, ogives harder.