FrankenCub
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This is kinda interesting if you take into consideration our threads of the grid going down and certain players who want to do it.
List of Countries Forecast 2025
List of Countries Forecast 2025
Interesting thoughts in this.
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What does it tell you when a CIA consultant group/think tank predicts the fall of western Europe and the US within the next 7 years?
Look at the US now compared to the 2025 projections. Look at GDP, military spending, population etc... It looks like we lose a pretty nasty war.
Then look at other countries, allies and enemies . The BRICS group, Russia and China is largely unaffected but western Europe and Canada take considerable hits as well.
England is predicted to fare even worse than us. Killing off the grid long term would be a great way to eliminate 70% of the US and British population .The brits would fare worse than us.
Australia, germany, etc all take a good beating.
Look at North Korea...
Just came across this
Official Washington flocking to Doomsday Camps
Its a survival bunker (similar concept to where the Washington elites will be secured) but is capable for regular people to buy into a unit.
Interestingly....many members are from the 3letter agencies. They know something is up and are trying to save themselves as well.
Official Washington flocking to Doomsday Camps
Its a survival bunker (similar concept to where the Washington elites will be secured) but is capable for regular people to buy into a unit.
Interestingly....many members are from the 3letter agencies. They know something is up and are trying to save themselves as well.
Deplorable Me
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Idiots, watch what happens when deer and buffalo yard up.
Robin
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Scenarios, scenarios, everywhere a man can go go, there's another doomsday scenario.
Take your own pulse, think for yourself.
Robin
Take your own pulse, think for yourself.
Robin
FrankenCub
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I just find this stuff interesting, not that I'm concerned about anything happening. Some facts to consider though, our magnetic field around the Earth IS weakening, which makes us much more susceptible to a solar flair taking out our electric grid. It's not a doomsday thing, just a natural cycle the Earth goes through.
FrankenCub
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@Drinkthekoolaid, you may like this. Kinda goes along the lines of a weakening grid, due to the magnetic poles moving, and also being more susceptible to solar flairs. But also calls the "global warming" issues out.
MadScientist
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This solar flare thing is interesting. From what I've seen legitimate balls to the walls geoscientists have no idea what the ramifications are, and when they will occur. Most notably, the scariest aspect of it is that the transition between pole shifts could last a VERY long time. If the ramifications are a loss of electrical power, ect, that means it could be knocked out for 1000s of years without some sort of compensation. Could get slippery very fast.
FrankenCub
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The ramifications are already known, we've already seen the effects of higher level solar flairs. Two of the events I can think of right off, parts of the electric grid went down. One was right here in the north east. The other if I remember correctly was quite a while ago and effected telephone and telegraph lines. There wasn't much of an electric grid at the time, so it might have been in the 1800's some time. They are well known by those who really study this stuff. With our satellites, SOHO and PROBA-2, they can predict how intense a CME will be and can get a good idea if and when one should hit us. We just haven't had a high level CME in some time.
With our magnetic field, I think a faster polar shift is more likely to weaken it. Not positive, but that's the way I understand it anyway. Either way, if we get even a moderately strong CME with a weakened magnetic shield you can bet your ass we will have electricity issues.
With our magnetic field, I think a faster polar shift is more likely to weaken it. Not positive, but that's the way I understand it anyway. Either way, if we get even a moderately strong CME with a weakened magnetic shield you can bet your ass we will have electricity issues.
I think the big CME from the 1800s is referred to as the "Carrington event"
Apparently it started telegraph lines on fire and the aurora borealis lights were seen as far south as cuba
Apparently it started telegraph lines on fire and the aurora borealis lights were seen as far south as cuba
MadScientist
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Sure yea, I'm not suggesting electrical issues won't be a problem, just from what I've seen I have no idea whether or not these sort of events will happen rapidly or on the scale of 1000s of years, which totally changes exactly what the problems are.
Will be upfront though I am absolutely speaking out of my ass. I'm a biologist, not a geoscientist
Will be upfront though I am absolutely speaking out of my ass. I'm a biologist, not a geoscientist
Jmac00
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lets just hope the shit hits the fan in the summer and Im at my camp, then the world can take a giant dump and I won't care
FrankenCub
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This guy covers this stuff a lot and gets into some really interesting topics.Sure yea, I'm not suggesting electrical issues won't be a problem, just from what I've seen I have no idea whether or not these sort of events will happen rapidly or on the scale of 1000s of years, which totally changes exactly what the problems are.
Will be upfront though I am absolutely speaking out of my ass. I'm a biologist, not a geoscientist
MadScientist
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Yea, that was fascinating, thanks for posting that. Definitely eye opening.
FrankenCub
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Even more eye opening is when you realize just how vulnerable we are to long term problems. Virtually everything we use every day is connected to the electric grid or otherwise hardwired (telephone lines, Internet, etc), and how many spares we have to repair damages. Most notably our large transformers. Even our cars for the most part could be permanently disabled by a strong enough CME and a weakened field. Buy military surplus goodies lol.
I haven't seen you posting much in this forum before. If you want to read a fairly factual book (written by a lefty even) who concludes sooner or later were screwed check this out
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0553...40_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=lights+out+ted+koppel
He becomes alarmed enough at what he finds to prepare himself.
And for emp/cme solar flare/ grid down this is a decent intro video if you are just learning about these ideas. Its done by national geographic so it's hardly some fringe whacko guy on YouTube
If your interested in this stuff we have tons of books and other materials to recommend
FrankenCub
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More for @MadScientist to read. Some of our past posts concerning grid problems.
Grid down
John McAfee thinks the grid is going down
Grid down
John McAfee thinks the grid is going down
MadScientist
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Yea I'm new to both this forum and NY state in general.
Thanks for the book and the video. For some reason the vid's not playing though, could you post the name and I'll try to find it on youtube? Its insane to think about what would happen if the grid went down. Most people can't go 1 hr without their phone.
Working on it man. Biggest impediment is my wife
Yea I'm new to both this forum and NY state in general.
Thanks for the book and the video. For some reason the vid's not playing though, could you post the name and I'll try to find it on youtube? Its insane to think about what would happen if the grid went down. Most people can't go 1 hr without their phone.
Working on it man. Biggest impediment is my wife
If you really want to know what would happen in "anytown USA" to random citizens if an EMP hit, read the book "one second after" it will change the way you view the world. If you like it there are 2 sequels in that series.
There is also the "going home" series which I really like as well..
But for someone new to the genre IMO start with one second after
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0765...+forstchen&dpPl=1&dpID=51f+QBqZkRL&ref=plSrch
MadScientist
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Well, after reading these links I'm convinced.
Added both books you linked to the cart. Thanks for the recommendations. Need to educate myself further on this issue clearly. Very much so appreciate your resources.
My wife thinks I'm nuts too. But, I convinced her to read one second after and she now tolerates my habits better. It freaked her out because it gave her a better idea of how fragile our daily lives are and 99% of people are oblivious to it.
The sequels are "one year after" and "the final day"
Also A.American wrote the "going home" series which I definitely recommend. Very similar concepts and genre but it's written from the angle of a prepper. So it's slightly different. One second after is just random unprepared people in a horrible situation.
Not sure where you live...but if your in western NY the Erie county library system has many of these books you can borrow for free or a small transfer request fee
MadScientist
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Onondaga but I can look into whether or not Syracuse's library will transfer. Probably so.
FrankenCub
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I hear ya, my wife is getting more on board now though. See hates being without electric, and we've lost electric a lot just due to storms. Now evenmore of an issue because she needs her O2 concentrator. She has back up tanks but they only last so long. My truck was an easy buy. I needed a bigger truck anyway so going military surplus was a huge benefit. They've been making them EMP hardened for quite a while which makes it more resistant to CMEs. I also decided to upgrade from my old laptop, my new one is a General Dynamics (military contract) and is EMP hardened. Not going to be useful for the internet when it goes but I can store a ton of info on it and also use it for comms via HAM radio. Can connect it with my Icom ID5100 for using D-Rats and D-Star sending images and GPS information.Yea I'm new to both this forum and NY state in general.
Thanks for the book and the video. For some reason the vid's not playing though, could you post the name and I'll try to find it on youtube? Its insane to think about what would happen if the grid went down. Most people can't go 1 hr without their phone.
Working on it man. Biggest impediment is my wife
Once we get set up at new property this spring I'll be working at getting a surplus military generator. So basically just getting thing that I can use today, but be very helpful for a SHTF event.
MadScientist
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I see. Milsurp goes beyond just weaponry and various survival accessories huh. I didn’t consider that, going to look into other more common day to day goods.
Forgive my niaviety it’s why I joined here in the first place. Most of what I’ve practiced/cultivated for skills up until now has been more outdoor survival type stuff. Gardening, foraging, how to build shelters out in the woods. Stuff like that.
FrankenCub
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Well, figure that if we need it so does the military. They rotate stock every so often and discontinue other for new replacements. Then they auction everything off. Sometimes you can get killer deals. Watch local auctions also, a lot of times milsurp goodies will show up there. I see generators a lot. I was stupid last year and decided not to bid on a M101A2 trailer that was in outstanding condition. It went for $400!!! I
ever day over that. It was the correct trailer for my truck and in my price range. New top, new bows, new tires, not rotted out.Look through this site, will give you an idea of what they auction off.
Humvees, Government & Military Surplus for Sale | GovPlanet
Government Surplus Auctions at Government Liquidation
FrankenCub
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This is a few years old, but a follow up of the video I posted at post 13