Karpteach
6.5 Creedmoor
It’s outta stock.
Lets talk Red Dots on handguns
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PutnamCharlie
6.5 Creedmoor
That was quick.
minderasr
6.5 Creedmoor
For those with the same issue I had with the WC grip module, I came across this video which may help.
How do we feel about the new Holosun SCS?
I am a little dubious about the solar only thing
But I do like that it is a direct mount system, seeing as Glock's mounting plates suck and plates in general are suboptimal.
I like the idea of getting the red dot down as low as possible.
SCS MOS-Holosun
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I am a little dubious about the solar only thing
But I do like that it is a direct mount system, seeing as Glock's mounting plates suck and plates in general are suboptimal.
I like the idea of getting the red dot down as low as possible.
Beerman
.223 Rem
“Rechargeable internal battery.” Solar backup. Who shoots exclusively in the dark?
Grooves on the side match the slide cut, not plate required. What’s not to like?
It charges exclusively off the solar cell which is my misgiving. But they claim an hour of charge per week will keep it running so.......“Rechargeable internal battery.” Solar backup. Who shoots exclusively in the dark?
Grooves on the side match the slide cut, not plate required. What’s not to like?
I like the form factor otherwise.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
One thing that jumped out at me is it doesn’t have “back-up” sites. That’s requirement for me to buy a pistol red dot
You mean a rear notch to co-witness with the front post you mean? The SCS sits low enough to co-witness with factory irons.
That's the whole point of the optic.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Oh. Well then there you go and I didn’t know that. A while back I watched a very good YouTube review of a solar only optic and they charge amazingly quickly and with low light.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
Open vs Closed Emitter ???
rain .. fog .. i sneezed on it ..
hell i fog up my rifle scope at times when hunting just breathing
Concealed Carry Corner: Open vs Closed Emitter Red Dots For Carrying -
This area of the market. Lets take a closer look at some of the differences when it comes to open vs closed emitter red dots for carrying.
www.thefirearmblog.com
MikeyCNY
6.5 Creedmoor
On Reddit. I don't have the post handy but he apparently doesn't like us anymore.
He has been banned from the forum.
PutnamCharlie
6.5 Creedmoor
Permanent ban?
Yeah, pretty sure.
While if given the option I would choose a closed emitter setup concerns regarding open emitter designs are overblown.Open vs Closed Emitter ???
rain .. fog .. i sneezed on it ..
hell i fog up my rifle scope at times when hunting just breathing
Concealed Carry Corner: Open vs Closed Emitter Red Dots For Carrying -
This area of the market. Lets take a closer look at some of the differences when it comes to open vs closed emitter red dots for carrying.
Particularly for a CCW which will spend the majority of its time protected from the elements and debris.
In addition open emitter setups are sleeker in form which is also befitting a CCW.
In fact the SCS is the first red dot I've considered for a carry gun. It would be nice if Holosun eventually offer a narrower version for the Glock 48.
Anyone have any experience or thoughts with this red dot?
The housing is thin and easily broken.
So maybe ideal for something like a .22 plinker but not for anything with serious usage?
Definitely not for serious usage. I honestly wouldn’t get it at all. Pretty much all of Vortex’s small red dots suck. I personally always try and buy gear that I know is gonna be durable and pretty much good for duty use no matter what.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I’ll add a picatinny rail is need and most pistols don’t have one up too. I’ve heard the same complaints as Willy has.
Bustedknees
.308 Win
Robin hasn't posted in a year either.
Beerman
.223 Rem
If you require a fail safe option, then it’s not an option. At typical pistol self defense range (often stated as 8-10 feet or no more than 20’) you should be proficient enough to hit a target accurately enough with the iron sights OR just the shrouded glass on a non-functional RDS, but you’re unlikely to have enough time to use both the RDS and the irons. Buy a quality RDS if you’re buying one like your life depends on it. Be safe out there.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
or no sights .. both eyes open .. point .. look and shoot .. ??
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
We would all hope so but you never know. I like redundancies so I prefer both. It’s personal preference and plenty of good options out there with both the red dot and back up sights so why not?
PutnamCharlie
6.5 Creedmoor
Beerman
.223 Rem
Right. Green dot sights (I like green much better than red) allow you to shoot with both eyes open, which becomes a habit pretty quickly. The dot and the POA/POI are on the same focal plane, so there’s no need to put a sharply focused iron sight over a fuzzy target, or vice versa. Just aim, cover intended target with dot, and send it. Or, at 10-12 feet, point & shoot.
Instructors teach that in a self defense situation you do not have time to aim a handgun with two completely different aiming devices/methods. Red dots put you in “both eyes open” mode, irons do not (easily) do that, especially if the dot and irons are not 100% co-witnessed. If they’re not (and pistols are very rarely 100% co-witnessed) then which aiming method will you choose before you fire? Too much hesitation, indecisiveness, delay, inaction, vulnerability, etc. And someone is shooting at you, if this is a SD situation. Pick one, train train train with it, and run it. That’s the pedagogy. (Not my concept, not my ideas.)
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Yes I understand what you’re saying and I agree with you. I’m just saying plans don’t always go as planned and if your red dot isn’t working then what? Yes maybe point and shoot is good enough with your target being in the window of the red dot. I don’t have a pistol red dot so it would be interesting for one of you guys to try it and see how it goes. Shut off the dot and shoot the target in the sight window, sure would be cool to see the outcome.Right. Green dot sights (I like green much better than red) allow you to shoot with both eyes open, which becomes a habit pretty quickly. The dot and the POA/POI are on the same focal plane, so there’s no need to put a sharply focused iron sight over a fuzzy target, or vice versa. Just aim, cover intended target with dot, and send it. Or, at 10-12 feet, point & shoot.
Instructors teach that in a self defense situation you do not have time to aim a handgun with two completely different aiming devices/methods. Red dots put you in “both eyes open” mode, irons do not (easily) do that, especially if the dot and irons are not 100% co-witnessed. If they’re not (and pistols are very rarely 100% co-witnessed) then which aiming method will you choose before you fire? Too much hesitation, indecisiveness, delay, inaction, vulnerability, etc. And someone is shooting at you, if this is a SD situation. Pick one, train train train with it, and run it. That’s the pedagogy. (Not my concept, not my ideas.)