Glock 17 or 19, whichever one feels better in your hands....Or just get both 
Looking for 1st Pistol
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Nah, the two are redundant, pick one or the other and the 19 is more versatile.Glock 17 or 19, whichever one feels better in your hands....Or just get both
Okay fine, then get a Glock 17 and a Glock 23
I think a pairing of the 17 with the 26 would make more sense but again the 19 can fill both roles at once. I advise the OP in avoiding redundancies in his arsenal until all niches are filled.
Justincase
6.5 Creedmoor
Sorry if you or someone else mentioned this already, but did you try the XD Mod.2?
I've shot my friend's XD mod.2 5" a bunch. It seems like a good gun and shoots nice enough, but it doesn't thrill me. There are some things I would change about it.
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Justincase
6.5 Creedmoor
Fair enough. I say Glock 19 then FTW
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You can turn a Glock 26 into a 19 but cannot turn a 19 into a 26.
You can turn a Glock 26 into a 19 but cannot turn a 19 into a 26.
Sorry but all it takes is a hacksaw.
You can turn a Glock 26 into a 19 but cannot turn a 19 into a 26.
Sure you can, it's call a SIG P320.
I love that optic so much I might have to buy a pistol to put it on.
I own and Love the SP2022! Not glamorous at all, but a trusty workhorse.
Inexpensive as a SIG can get and the offset lets you buy TONS of Ammo for it.
there is not very much aftermarket stuff for it so that saves a lot of money too!
I have shot your other favorites, but i only own the 2022!
Inexpensive as a SIG can get and the offset lets you buy TONS of Ammo for it.
there is not very much aftermarket stuff for it so that saves a lot of money too!
I have shot your other favorites, but i only own the 2022!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
A lot of work and it still looks the same. Maybe a cm shorter.
Sure you can, it's call a SIG P320.
Lol, it's definitely a cool gun. I think I eliminated that one because I couldn't reach the mag and slide release as well as on other pistols.
No Work. .6 difference.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Not enough. You cab still get 3 fingers on the grip. I need 2 for maximum concealment.
First handgun! Man, there are a ton of choices out there. To me, it's all a matter of what you like the feel of; how well you can shoot it; how well it conceals if that is what you want it for... Bottom line? Personal preference. Here's some of what I did, and why, if it helps you at all.
First CCW handgun was and is my Ruger SP101 .357 snubby. Standard grip was a little short, so I added CT laser extended grip that gets me 3 fingers on it. Still love it, and carry it very often.
Bought a Remington SR1 stainless 1911 .45, basically same as I carried in the service. Too heavy to carry comfortably, but love shooting it. Has Pachmayr grips.
I have a Glock 17 I picked up cheap just to try, but I really don't like the grips at all.
Have a few S&W M&P's and Shields in .45 and 9mm. Absolutely love them all. Love how they fit my hand, and I shoot them straight. When I first felt the Shield, the grip felt way too thin. Then I got used to it, and now it grips fine for me. Shoots straight every time, and conceals perfectly. Love it.
I still love the fit, finish, triggers, and overall feel of the S&W revolvers over the Ruger's overall, but both brands are very reliable. I especially love my S&W 617 revolver, 10 shot .22. It's a thing of beauty, and the trigger is perfect.
Whatever you do, ENJOY! and stay safe!
First CCW handgun was and is my Ruger SP101 .357 snubby. Standard grip was a little short, so I added CT laser extended grip that gets me 3 fingers on it. Still love it, and carry it very often.
Bought a Remington SR1 stainless 1911 .45, basically same as I carried in the service. Too heavy to carry comfortably, but love shooting it. Has Pachmayr grips.
I have a Glock 17 I picked up cheap just to try, but I really don't like the grips at all.
Have a few S&W M&P's and Shields in .45 and 9mm. Absolutely love them all. Love how they fit my hand, and I shoot them straight. When I first felt the Shield, the grip felt way too thin. Then I got used to it, and now it grips fine for me. Shoots straight every time, and conceals perfectly. Love it.
I still love the fit, finish, triggers, and overall feel of the S&W revolvers over the Ruger's overall, but both brands are very reliable. I especially love my S&W 617 revolver, 10 shot .22. It's a thing of beauty, and the trigger is perfect.
Whatever you do, ENJOY! and stay safe!
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I decided to rent the Glock 17 to try it after finding a backstrap that made the grip comfortable. Description added to the "Shot" list in the 1st post.
Glock 17: After finding the right backstrap that changed my mind about the grip and made it comfortable, I decided to rent it (mostly to see what all the Glock love is about, lol). Overall it shot well, but it didn't thrill me. The recoil impulse seemed very average, I thought the very low bore axis might do some magic but I didn't notice much difference. The recoil and flip seemed very standard. I noticed that the grip angle (which doesn't bother me at all when gripping) made the pistol not track as well in my hands. The sight picture needed more adjustment on my part between shots. I also thought the 'dot and bucket' sights were mediocre. The little radius of the trigger guard as it connects to the grip started to dig into my finger a bit after some shooting.
Edit: also I think the grip angle may have been causing me to push shots to the left slightly.
So Glocks back off the short list, lol.
Glock 17: After finding the right backstrap that changed my mind about the grip and made it comfortable, I decided to rent it (mostly to see what all the Glock love is about, lol). Overall it shot well, but it didn't thrill me. The recoil impulse seemed very average, I thought the very low bore axis might do some magic but I didn't notice much difference. The recoil and flip seemed very standard. I noticed that the grip angle (which doesn't bother me at all when gripping) made the pistol not track as well in my hands. The sight picture needed more adjustment on my part between shots. I also thought the 'dot and bucket' sights were mediocre. The little radius of the trigger guard as it connects to the grip started to dig into my finger a bit after some shooting.
Edit: also I think the grip angle may have been causing me to push shots to the left slightly.
So Glocks back off the short list, lol.
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Snappo
6.5 Creedmoor
I dunno - I have less than zero Glock love. I prefer the Springfield Armory XDM by an order of magnitude over the Glock (even though admittedly I have a few of both).
The XDs are nice pistols, a little flippy for my taste, but they feel high quality.
I'm down to the last 2 to choose between:
Beretta 92A1 vs. FN FNS
Care to place a vote to help me pick?
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
Of those I would chose the Beretta. I like hammer fired. The FNX would compare more to the 92.
I tried the FNX. It was nice, but I didn't like the safety position so the FNS made the list instead. The Beretta trigger is nicer than the FNX also, IIRC.
Thanks for the vote!
It was mentioned earlier and I know you're probably set, but I did get out to handle the ruger american compact, and it is on layaway for me as we speak. Sweet trigger, adjustable back straps, ambi controls, and the first thing going on for me is a set of truglo tfx pro sights.
Cool, I do still want to try it even though chances are it won't change my mind. I keep forgetting to ask about it, doh. Thanks for the info.
Ok, it's done!
The price dropped a bit and I jumped on it. The order going through for a Beretta 92A1!
@Darth , @ECU Pirates
The price dropped a bit and I jumped on it. The order going through for a Beretta 92A1!
@Darth , @ECU Pirates
Snappo
6.5 Creedmoor
I do not own Fabrique Nationale Herstal pistol of any kind. I do have an FN FAL that I have had for decades, and it is quite reliable and well built. I do own the Taurus version of the Baretta 92; which is called the Taurus 99. Taurus bought an entire plant from Baretta with all the CNC machines etc and it was set up for making the 92 so they just called it Taurus instead of Baretta, changed the 92 to a 99, added adjustments for windage and elevation, made some other minor improvements, and then sold a ton of them for the past 40 years. I got mine in the mid 80s. It is comfortable in my hand, easy to disassemble for cleaning, extremely accurate, has timeless looks, and is beautiful.
Now here is where I throw FN FNS under the bus. I have a lot of these carbon fiber type weapons. I enjoy shooting my XD's (I have 2) but do not like my Glocks (I think I have either 4 or 5), do not like my S&W M&P 40, and do not like my Ruger SR45. These companies design their trigger group the way they think you might enjoy it, and leave no wiggle room for you to make changes to how you like the weapon to feel and fire. Companies like Wilson Combat, Wolff, etc. make great trigger kits for the Baretta 92 and Taurus 99. To me something classy like a 92 or 99 is something you treasure, add beautiful cocobolo furniture to (Esmeralda is the queen of exotic grips for almost half a century), update the trigger on, etc. Something like an FN FNS or my Ruger SR45 are just cheap pieces of dog shit that might kill a bad guy but will NEVER soothe your gun-ownership soul. They are soulless garbage. A 92 or 99 is basically the M9 they gave us when we were in the military and it is steeped in history of use during wars, and stood the test of time just like a 1911 did. Doing anything nice for plastic guns is like putting lipstick on a pig.
Here is what beautiful all metal pistols with Esmeralda grips looks like (I have 3 such lovelies):
Snappo
6.5 Creedmoor
And the sidearm addiction begins! Don't forget to apply for your Type 03 FFL (called a C&R) and buy lots of fun stuff from WW II, etc. It will be the best $50 you spent every 2 or 3 years - guaranteed. I have lots of stuff and often these WW II pistols run from $100 to $200 or so. I have a Walther P38 from 1941 with all the correct Nazi markings, a Cesca Zbrojovka (CZ) 82 and a CZ 52, a Waffenfabrik pistol from pre WW II that is 32 auto, a USSR revolver from WW II, etc. None of those cost me more than maybe $250 or so back a decade ago or thereabouts when I got intoC&R pistol collecting.
I do not own Fabrique Nationale Herstal pistol of any kind. I do have an FN FAL that I have had for decades, and it is quite reliable and well built. I do own the Taurus version of the Baretta 92; which is called the Taurus 99. Taurus bought an entire plant from Baretta with all the CNC machines etc and it was set up for making the 92 so they just called it Taurus instead of Baretta, changed the 92 to a 99, added adjustments for windage and elevation, made some other minor improvements, and then sold a ton of them for the past 40 years. I got mine in the mid 80s. It is comfortable in my hand, easy to disassemble for cleaning, extremely accurate, has timeless looks, and is beautiful.
Now here is where I throw FN FNS under the bus. I have a lot of these carbon fiber type weapons. I enjoy shooting my XD's (I have 2) but do not like my Glocks (I think I have either 4 or 5), do not like my S&W M&P 40, and do not like my Ruger SR45. These companies design their trigger group the way they think you might enjoy it, and leave no wiggle room for you to make changes to how you like the weapon to feel and fire. Companies like Wilson Combat, Wolff, etc. make great trigger kits for the Baretta 92 and Taurus 99. To me something classy like a 92 or 99 is something you treasure, add beautiful cocobolo furniture to (Esmeralda is the queen of exotic grips for almost half a century), update the trigger on, etc. Something like an FN FNS or my Ruger SR45 are just cheap pieces of dog shit that might kill a bad guy but will NEVER soothe your gun-ownership soul. They are soulless garbage. A 92 or 99 is basically the M9 they gave us when we were in the military and it is steeped in history of use during wars, and stood the test of time just like a 1911 did. Doing anything nice for plastic guns is like putting lipstick on a pig.
Here is what beautiful all metal pistols with Esmeralda grips looks like (I have 3 such lovelies):
Good thing I just bought a Beretta 92 online then, (probably while you were typing lol)
Snappo
6.5 Creedmoor
Good thing I just bought a Beretta 92 online then, (probably while you were typing lol)
As my grandma always said when I bought something fun: "Just have good luck with that dear!".