Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The law doesn't say permanent but your reasoning is sound. It has to be permanent or else it would still be able to be fired.
On the same note, the kydex fin isn't permanently attached to the pistol grip.
Looking to buy a King Cuomo compliant semi-automatic AR-15. Ripoffs are welcome.
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On the same note, the kydex fin isn't permanently attached to the pistol grip.
I mean it could be, nice hot soldering iron
You people are ridiculous.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I think the laws are ridiculous and the workarounds even more so. And even more so ridiculous are the way people try to justify some workarounds as kosher just because they want a certain gun. It doesn't take a scholar to read a law. A good understand of basic English is all that's required.
The law doesn't say fixed mag. It said "ability to accept a detachable magazine." So you have to make to where your rifle cannot accept a detachable magazine.
The law says "a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon." Attaching a piece of kydex or a nail or sometime else to it doesn't change it to not being a pistol grip. It's still a pistol grip with something else attached to it.
That's basic English unless there is a law or definition in a law that says that a pistol grip is specifically X, Y, Z if it has these certain characteristics like California's law does.
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You were discussing ways to permanently ensconce a pistol in a kydex holster.
You people are ridiculous.
No I was stating that one could use a soldering iron to make that kydex fin actually permanent to a polymer grip on something like that AUG
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I posted it because it was just a ridiculous as putting a kydex fin on a pistol grip and saying that it isn't a pistol grip any longer.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
the laws are all invalid .. do we really have go there .. go shop at lowes LOL..
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Would you care to share your experience, recommendations?
Robin
Check out Ulster FIrearms on 9W in Milton NY. Great guys and a great selection of AR's. If they don't have what you want in stock they can get it fast and make it NY compliant. I bought a Savage MSR Recon. I went with prebuilt as this was my first AR. I put a 5 round limiter in the 10 round mag so I can hunt in NY with it. If I am at the range I can take the limiter out and the mag is 10 rounds again.
Russ Woody
.45 acp
Cleck
.308 Win
Or a fightlite lower and use a rifle as intended with detachable magazines. These laws aren't going away. You'll still get the superior accuracy of an AR with any upper of your choice.
Shit, I kinda like this. Like an M1/M14 in a way, which I've wanted to build.
Do something like this or deal w/ a mag button block/stop so you can have your features (except the removable mag) and get some BF10's and get good at loading that way.
WhyLeftiesGlorifyNY
.40 S&W
I’m sorry for your loss.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Because Dark Storm when on a social media campaign declaring that their proprietary fixed mag lowers were the only approved lowers for an AR. They claimed that the NYSP told them that other fixed mag lowers and the Thordsen stock was illegal. This cost companies like Thorsden to suspend shipping to New York.
It was all a Hoax to drum up sales on their lowers. The NYSPRA investigated the matter and came to find out that the NYSP never gave such a determination. The NYSP also said that they are not in the business of determining legalities and it's for the courts to sort out so they don't know where Dark Storm got this information that their lowers were the only legal ones.
Fuck Dark Storm. They tried to make a buck on our backs by trying to screw over gun owners to only buy their products.
Bustedknees
.308 Win
I'd think someone could make serious money holding AR build workshop courses.. I'm ready to pop my cherry on a first build.. if all goes well I'll try and upper from scratch next time.. wish me luck..
mca90guitar
.357 mag
YouTube , loads of videos showing how to do just about all gun smithing.
Vapor
.308 Win
It's not hard. If you can change your spark plugs, you can put a lower together. Don't forget the automatic center punch..
Building an ak...now that is actual smithing...
Building an ak...now that is actual smithing...
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mca90guitar
.357 mag
If you do a Google search there is a few posts regaurding this and DSI takes part in them for a sort time. Whole thing seems sketchy.
I think their fixed mag lower looks really nice with nice features. Considered buying one myself.
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I wonder if they'll add this to their stable of rentable rifles.
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I absolutely get your argument. It makes sense. But I also do believe that if you have a thumbhole stock for example and then out put kydex in it so that your thumb can no longer go in it it's not a "thumbhole stock". Even though it is. Or was. But isn't now. But really it still is. It's just that it doesn't function as one because of the kydex so it's not actually after all is it.
Anyway, the Thordsen stock is almost certainly legal (stores certainly sell them and I think NY has given a begrudging nod to it), and it's also pretty damn comfortable. You can't easily thumb the safety on, but you can off, and it's easy to shoot.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
FUDS!
Robin
Robin
Vapor
.308 Win
Agreed, the Thordsen and spurs are sold at major retailers. I've seen pinned and welded muzzles at gun shops too. The law sucks and is vague about many points.
mca90guitar
.357 mag
When we still had gander mountain in Endicott NY they sold stags with thorsden stocks. Seems like a big business like that would have been a good one for the state to go after if they were illegal. Than again it's probably easier to just screw over the little guys. Have not heard of anyone around here getting picked up for one and a local cop I know said that they are completely legal (whatever that is worth)
Shadow rider
6.5 Creedmoor
WhyLeftiesGlorifyNY
.40 S&W
What horrible scumbags they are. Thank god i didn't buy from them..