Mar-a-Lago just raided by FBI

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spat said:
The right is not the group foaming at the mouth about Trump being the antichrist.

Or how *this* time they have incontrovertible proof that he has committed felonies and will go down for sure.

The man has lots of room for improvement, there is much I don't like about him. But he is easily the best POTUS since at least Reagan, by any reasonable metric you care to name.
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He's not the antichrist, just an autocrat who unfortunately for him was born in the usa and not russia. There's a reason he admires putin. Trump was continually hamstrung by our bothersome laws and processes that prevented him from doing what he really wanted.

He was an okay president policy wise, but his behavior since losing the election is fucking ghastly in the extreme. It's is unconscionable.

As for this time or not we'll see. I think he's in pretty deep shit this time, truthfully, but politicians in this country have a long history of evading repercussions, from bush who literally started a war on lies and never was held accountable, to hillary's email server, and plenty in between, since, and before. trump's main problem is that he is deeply loathed by many, enjoys making enemies, and so any vulnerabilities he has exposed are going to be leveraged with the utmost of aggression.
 
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Here is an article stating what was already stated and that the FBI took documents containing information that’s protected under attorney client privilege. I’m shocked as I’m sure you all are. January 6 th witch hunt?
www.cbsnews.com

Justice Department says it found "limited set" of potentially privileged material in Trump search

The Justice Department also confirmed it and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence is undertaking a classification review of materials recovered by the FBI from Mar-a-Lago.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
 
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A good read folks
www.coffeeandcovid.com

☕️ Coffee & Covid ☙ Saturday, August 27, 2022 ☙ THE AFFIDAVIT

A roundup of Biden Raid Affidavit news along with some things you might not have heard anywhere else; and Governor DeSantis lowers the boom on four Broward school board members.
www.coffeeandcovid.com www.coffeeandcovid.com

In its summary section, the Affidavit — as expected — was so heavily redacted that it does NOT establish probable cause for a raid of a former’s president’s home, despite what some otherwise smart pundits argue. Plus, there were other tools available to the FBI, like a subpoena, but they went with the most invasive and violent choice instead, and the Affidavit does not explain that remarkable decision. I’ll return to this point in a bit.

Here’s how it started. Between May and December 2021, deep-state bureaucrats at the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA or the National Archives) pestered Trump’s people about a small number of presidential documents that NARA thought should’ve been turned over to the Archives instead of stored at Mar-a-Lago.

Those conversations ended in early January when Trump returned fifteen boxes of documents to NARA. Fifteen banker’s boxes of documents is NOT a lot. For reference, even my smallest trial cases consume more than fifteen banker’s boxes of documents. In one case, now settled, my client recently got around to picking up five year’s worth of payroll records; those ALONE filled about twelve banker’s boxes, never mind all the OTHER documents related to the case.

So fifteen boxes of documents from a four-year Presidential term is really nothing.
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Matters not IF there was anything, the damage and besmirchment of Trump was the goal, same as ALL the other attacks on the President... Perhaps a few possible voters would be dissuaded, but they would be replaced by converts, and through it all his supporters see right through the bullshit making them even more determined to support his return.
 
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Kash Patel Confirms Seized Documents from Mar-a-Lago Raid Were Evidence Showing DOJ and FBI Corruption in Trump-Russia Probe​

During an appearance on Tucker Carlson’s television show, former house intel staff and Trump aide Kash Patel confirms the documents targeted by the DOJ/FBI raid on Trump’s home were documents of evidence showing DOJ/FBI political corruption in the Trump-Russia probe.

President Trump declassified documents that show how the institutions within the U.S. government targeted him. However, the institutions that illegally targeted President Trump are now the same institutions seeking control of the specific evidence of their unlawful targeting. WATCH
An FBI raid cannot be predicated on a document conflict between the National Archives and a former president.

The DOJ-NSD warrant, and the subsequent raid on Mar-a-Lago could only be predicated and justified on records the U.S. government deems “classified” and material vital to national security interests. That’s the Main Justice cover story to retrieve the evidence of their own wrongdoing. Hence, DOJ National Security Division involvement.
In broad terms there are two sets of documents that intermingle and are directly related. First, documents that highlight the activity of Hillary Clinton’s team in creating the false Trump-Russia conspiracy theory (2015/2016). Second, documents that highlight the activity of government officials targeting Donald Trump within the same timeframe (Crossfire Hurricane), that continued into 2017, 2018 and 2019 (Robert Mueller).

Think of the two sets of documents as evidence against two teams working in synergy. Team one (Clinton) was outside government. Team two (DOJ/FBI) was inside government. The documents pertain to both groups but are also divided. That helps to explain the wording of the memo above.

The documentary evidence against the outside group (Clinton et al) would also involve government documented evidence as the DOJ/FBI inside group interacted with them. Notes from interviews, materials provided, FBI 302 summaries of interviews, etc.

We can extract a lot of information on the first sets of evidence from the lawsuit filed by President Trump in March of this year, mostly against the outside actors. [LINK HERE]

The lawsuit was filed against specific persons and most of those persons were interviewed by the FBI as part of the originating investigation. Within the subjects of the lawsuit we find names and groups including:

Hillary Clinton, Hillary for America Campaign Committee, DNC, DNC Services Corp, Perkins Coie, Michael Sussmann, Marc Elias, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Charles Dolan, Jake Sullivan, John Podesta, Robby Mook, Phillipe Reines as well as Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson, Peter Fritsch, Nellie Ohr, Bruce Ohr, Orbis Business Intelligence, Christopher Steele, Igor Danchenko, Neustar Inc., Rodney Joffe, James Comey Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Kevin Clinesmith and Andrew McCabe.
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Kash Patel Confirms Seized Documents from Mar-a-Lago Raid Were Evidence Showing DOJ and FBI Corruption in Trump-Russia Probe - The Last Refuge

During an appearance on Tucker Carlson’s television show, former house intel staff and Trump aide Kash Patel confirms the documents targeted by the DOJ/FBI raid on Trump’s home were documents of evidence showing DOJ/FBI political corruption in the Trump-Russia probe. President Trump declassified...
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Breaking: FBI Agent Tim Thibault Who Opened Trump Investigation Is Escorted from Headquarters — Was Also FBI Agent in Charge of Investigating Voter Fraud, And Failed to Do So – Survive the News

www.survivethenews.com www.survivethenews.com

Same asshole investigating voter fraud in 2020 and found, "Nothing." He also traveled with Bruce and Nellie Ohr to the Czech Republic in February 2016 when Nellie was employed by Fusion GPS. Are some of you sheep STILL asleep?
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I sense Timmy may succumb to a case of acute Epsteinenza or chronic Clintonitis that's been going around.
 
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livingston said:
An FBI raid cannot be predicated on a document conflict between the National Archives and a former president.
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Good to know.

but they have what they wanted. There's no way Trump gets them back, nor any way the People get to see them.

Possession is 9/10ths of the Law. They are probably being shredded as we type.
 
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Uh oh :oops:

www.foxnews.com

Trump FBI raid: DOJ files response on possible 'special master' appointment for Mar-a-Lago docs

The Justice Department responded to arguments from former President Donald Trump asking for an independent review of documents seized from Mar-a-Lago.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

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As I warned the news-by-meme crowd in this thread on Aug 8:

A wise person would wait for more news before assuming that this is politically motivated skullduggery.
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And now we have this. The ever-faithful who defend a guy who is in very deep water indeed, because you trusted him, and didn't use your head. As we learn more about this it's evident, as I also said on Aug 8, that great forethought went into this warrant. Trump is in big trouble. Yuuuuge trouble.
 
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The reason the DOJ released a 36 page argument last night is because it was in response to trump's request for a special master. This allowed them to dump a ton more information in arguing why it's not appropriate.

After months of wrangling with the National Archives and all assurances from trump that classified docs had been returned (which he held illegally to begin with, btw), and other docs were in a locked off area, the DOJ raid finds that there are classified documents in his personal drawer--so personal that it is the very same drawer he keeps his passports in.

This is already the result of a multi-month criminal investigation and was vetted by a grand jury. Then they do the raid and come up with exactly what they had thought they would find: more evidence of criminality, including obstruction.

Trump is fucked. They have him dead to rights. There will be an indictment.

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Uk oh :rolleyes:


TOP SECRET DOCUMENTS so secret they are all over the internet.

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"Trump even had TOP SERCRET DOCUMENTS in a draw!" WGY 810 Albany Fox Knews as just hear by um me.
 
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Blimey said:
There is one person on this forum who continually talks in high praise about the opportunity to have a civil war, so that he can kill democrats. Another who has said they should all be hanged. And others who also jerk off at the notion of killing anybody with a biden or bernie sticker, so don't pretend to me the right is not poisoned with hatred. They refer to it as the great reset so that they can hobble their geriatric asses out the door with their rifles and pick off liberals.

So don't pretend to me for a second the right is not poisoned by hatred.

Bonus: this is the time trump said he loves the poorly educated because they are the most loyal. Proof positive he is not always wrong :)

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Some nice straw men you have built there ole master Blimey.
 
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