Missouri Couple Defends Their Home From Rampaging Mob Who Broke Through Perimeter Gate on Private Property…

[Criticalt]

I saw no indication of any attempt at arson. Nor, on this video, did I see any attempt to enter their home.

The husband was reasonable. The wife was not.

Here is the pointing I referred to.

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Who knows what they are going to do. But a reasonable person may believe they are there to burn down your house like they have done in almost every encounter. Fire seems to be their weapon of choice. The mob had already pushed through the owners gate and threatened to kill them and their dog. In most states you do not need to wait to see if they will follow through on their threats....the threats are enough to be in fear for your life.
If a mob of 300-500 people break down your gate and threaten to kill you, you had better be in fear for your life......unless your name is John Rambo I guess.
Also, the mob was heading for the house before the owners got their guns.
Annnd, what dies that guy on the right side of picture have in his hands? I thought microphone at first but thats a pretty fancy mic.

 

[Chevusa]

So, what's your suggestion ? Retreat to the basement and wait for the burning house to land on your head ?

Nope. No need to take complete opposite extremes.

Running into a mass crowd to engage them physically and have your wife stand back and fire into the crowd isn't the best strategy though. In fact, it isn't even a remotely good one.

 

[Chevusa]

Who knows what they are going to do. But a reasonable person may believe they are there to burn down your house like they have done in almost every encounter. Fire seems to be their weapon of choice. The mob had already pushed through the owners gate and threatened to kill them and their dog. In most states you do not need to wait to see if they will follow through on their threats....the threats are enough to be in fear for your life.
If a mob of 300-500 people break down your gate and threaten to kill you, you had better be in fear for your life......unless your name is John Rambo I guess.
Also, the mob was heading for the house before the owners got their guns.
Annnd, what dies that guy on the right side of picture have in his hands? I thought microphone at first but thats a pretty fancy mic.

It's some sort of A/V equipment. Perhaps a mount or stabilizing equipment for a camera.

 

[spat]

Nope. No need to take complete opposite extremes.

Running into a mass crowd to engage them physically and have your wife stand back and fire into the crowd isn't the best strategy though. In fact, it isn't even a remotely good one.

You still haven't suggested a better one.


My personal suggestion is not to live anywhere a mob is likely to be interested.

 

[Chevusa]

You still haven't suggested a better one.


My personal suggestion is not to live anywhere a mob is likely to be interested.

Stay inside or stand in the doorway with weapon pointed in a safe direction. If you are approached closely raise the weapon, issue verbal warnings, and if they continue in a threatening manner do what must be done to protect yourself and home (in that state). In NY you better just stay inside at the ready. You may not use a weapon to protect the outside of your house unless you are stopping the commission of an arson.

 

[spat]

Stay inside or stand in the doorway with weapon pointed in a safe direction. If you are approached closely raise the weapon, issue verbal warnings, and if they continue in a threatening manner do what must be done to protect yourself and home (in that state). In NY you better just stay inside at the ready. You may not use a weapon to protect the outside of your house unless you are stopping the commission of an arson.

And you think you'll fare better in court with some dead rioters on your doorstep and not a scratch on you than someone who was getting badly beaten on their the lawn ?

Or were you planning on waiting for them to break your windows and then engage them in CQB in the living room ?

Good luck with that.

 

[Chevusa]

And you think you'll fare better in court with some dead rioters on your doorstep and not a scratch on you than someone who was getting badly beaten on their the lawn ?

Or were you planning on waiting for them to break your windows and then engage them in CQB in the living room ?

Good luck with that.

Court of public opinion. Who went after who? I'll stay put and let them come after me. Do you want to jury to see the video of you running after them or them running after you?

 

[spat]

Court of public opinion. Who went after who? I'll stay put and let them come after me. Do you want to jury to see the video of you running after them or them running after you?

I'm not going to run after anyone. It's my lawn, why run.

I can go out and calmly order them to leave. If they decline I am well within the law to physically make them leave. If they escalate from there it's on them.

 

[Chevusa]

I'm not going to run after anyone. It's my lawn, why run.

I can go out and calmly order them to leave. If they decline I am well within the law to physically make them leave. If they escalate from there it's on them.

Maybe if it's 1 or 2 people. If you go into a crowd and have your wife start shooting into it to defend you, you will be looked at as the aggressor. You have the deadly weapons. The "rules" are different for you (even if they aren't). That is how the public is going to look at it. Besides with your strategy, how many blows to the head are you going to take before your wife starts firing? You just may get yourself killed while trying to "set them up" for deadly force. Your wife will probably hit you with a few rounds too in the process. Terrible plan.

 

[GOYABEAN]

And you think you'll fare better in court with some dead rioters on your doorstep and not a scratch on you than someone who was getting badly beaten on their the lawn ?

Or were you planning on waiting for them to break your windows and then engage them in CQB in the living room ?

Good luck with that.

Just make sure you have enough ammo not to leave witnesses

 

[Phazer]

Peacefull protestors

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[Target]

The wife clearly pointed her pistol wildly at pretty much everyone, including her husband. Finger on the trigger.

 

[spat]

Maybe if it's 1 or 2 people. If you go into a crowd and have your wife start shooting into it to defend you, you will be looked at as the aggressor. You have the deadly weapons. The "rules" are different for you (even if they aren't). That is how the public is going to look at it. Besides with your strategy, how many blows to the head are you going to take before your wife starts firing? You just may get yourself killed while trying to "set them up" for deadly force. Your wife will probably hit you with a few rounds too in the process. Terrible plan.

Who said anything about setting anyone up for anything ?

Ask them to leave.

Then tell them to leave.

Then make them leave.

If that fails, have a backup plan.

She certainly wouldn't be firing indiscriminately into a crowd, but you aren't going to be getting beaten by a crowd, just a couple guys at most.

If they are rushing the house by the hundreds with torches and pitchforks I'm certainly not going to go out and ask nicely.

 

[GOPerfect]

I am sadden that life has come to this.

Years ago, when I first began a gun owner, I owned one pistol. My first gun was an inexpensive, Ruger P95. I had maybe, 3 boxes of fifty, 9mm ammo.

I did not own a safe, I did not carry the gun everywhere. I left the gun in my top dresser drawer. I had the gun for that "just in case" situation. If my home was ever broken into, I could protect my family. Deep down inside, I thought I would never need the gun. It was for the far reaching scenario.

In the past decade or so, life here in the United States is becoming something that none of us would have imagined.

We have ventured into a time that is pure sad and crazy. These homeowners, when they purchased these firearms, I would bet a buck that they never envisioned themselves standing on their front porch aiming down at the scum. Times have definitely changed, for the worse.

 

[Chevusa]

Who said anything about setting anyone up for anything ?

Ask them to leave.

Then tell them to leave.

Then make them leave.

If that fails, have a backup plan.

She certainly wouldn't be firing indiscriminately into a crowd, but you aren't going to be getting beaten by a crowd, just a couple guys at most.

If they are rushing the house by the hundreds with torches and pitchforks I'm certainly not going to go out and ask nicely.

You trying to make them leave when it's 200 (or whatever the number) to 1 is not reasonable and will be portrayed as you baiting them in for your other party to shoot them.

Again you need to play by a different set of rules because you are the ones with the guns. Right or not, you will be looked at as the aggressors and you have the responsibility to de-escalate (in public opinion).

Any plan that counts on you getting beaten "by just a couple of guys" is probably a pretty bad one.

 

[GOPerfect]

Who said anything about setting anyone up for anything ?

Ask them to leave.

Then tell them to leave.

Then make them leave.

If that fails, have a backup plan.

She certainly wouldn't be firing indiscriminately into a crowd, but you aren't going to be getting beaten by a crowd, just a couple guys at most.

If they are rushing the house by the hundreds with torches and pitchforks I'm certainly not going to go out and ask nicely.

Funny, this is exactly how I do my job...

ASK... TELL...MAKE.

Always have a back up plan to ensure what I want gets done.

 

[Chevusa]

I am sadden that life has come to this.

Years ago, when I first began a gun owner, I owned one pistol. My first gun was an inexpensive, Ruger P95. I had maybe, 3 boxes of fifty, 9mm ammo.

I did not own a safe, I did not carry the gun everywhere. I left the gun in my top dresser drawer. I had the gun for that "just in case" situation. If my home was ever broken into, I could protect my family. Deep down inside, I thought I would never need the gun. It was for the far reaching scenario.

In the past decade or so, life here in the United States is becoming something that none of us would have imagined.

We have ventured into a time that is pure sad and crazy. These homeowners, when they purchased these firearms, I would bet a buck that they never envisioned themselves standing on their front porch aiming down at the scum. Times have definitely changed, for the worse.

Places I go without carrying a gun:

None.

 

[GOPerfect]

Places I go without carrying a gun:

None.

Me as well, ten-12 years ago, nope. Only occasional carry.

 

[spat]

You trying to make them leave when it's 200 (or whatever the number) to 1 is not reasonable and will be portrayed as you baiting them in for your other party to shoot them.

Again you need to play by a different set of rules because you are the ones with the guns. Right or not, you will be looked at as the aggressors and you have the responsibility to de-escalate (in public opinion).

Any plan that counts on you getting beaten "by just a couple of guys" is probably a pretty bad one.

Are there 200 guys on your lawn ?

Or are there 2 or 3 guys on your lawn and 200 others on the street egging them on.

There's a big difference.

And I'm certainly not counting on getting beaten, if I go out to make them leave, it's because I think I have a decent chance of making them leave.

The backup plan is just that.

 

[meketrefe]

Just come out with your AKs wearing a turbant and a burka and they will leave you alone.
Aloha snackbar!!!

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Anyone else get a Tony Montana vibe from this video?

 

[Blimey]

Who knows what they are going to do. But a reasonable person may believe they are there to burn down your house like they have done in almost every encounter. Fire seems to be their weapon of choice. The mob had already pushed through the owners gate and threatened to kill them and their dog. In most states you do not need to wait to see if they will follow through on their threats....the threats are enough to be in fear for your life.
If a mob of 300-500 people break down your gate and threaten to kill you, you had better be in fear for your life......unless your name is John Rambo I guess.
Also, the mob was heading for the house before the owners got their guns.
Annnd, what dies that guy on the right side of picture have in his hands? I thought microphone at first but thats a pretty fancy mic.

I thought this mob was basically walking past their house and had not specifically targeted them but who knows. If I had dozens of people walking past my house threatening to kill me (if this did happen), I might not respond perfectly.

 

[BDinPutnam]

I thought this mob was basically walking past their house and had not specifically targeted them but who knows. If I had dozens of people walking past my house threatening to kill me (if this did happen), I might not respond perfectly.

Emotion kills.

Lose 'em.

 

[spat]

I thought this mob was basically walking past their house and had not specifically targeted them but who knows. If I had dozens of people walking past my house threatening to kill me (if this did happen), I might not respond perfectly.

They broke down the gate to get where they were.

They were not "walking past" anything.

 

[Blimey]

They broke down the gate to get where they were.

They were not "walking past" anything.

Wasn't the gate to the neighborhood in general, like a private gate to a path or something...?

 

[GOYABEAN]

BLM Protesters Pull Out AK47 Rifle, Curse and Scream at Local KSDK Reporter During Mob Action at Mayor Krewson's Home (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

On Sunday hundreds of Black Lives Matter and antifa protesters broke through a gate on Portland Place, a private street and marched down the private street to Mayor Lyda Krewson’s home.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Steal2B]

if this did happen

Police chief confirmed the threats, the armed thugs in the mob, the spray can artists, and confirmed the home owners' account including the whole mob was not passing by but a group went up the private front walks and private lawn to the house. It led me to believe there are 911 tapes and security camera videos that were reviewed.

 

[Deplorable Me]

They broke down the gate to get where they were.

They were not "walking past" anything.

It was private property, the gate didn't need to be locked. The sign was posted and the protesters didn't or couldn't read it.

 

[Blimey]

Police chief confirmed the threats, the armed thugs in the mob, the spray can artists, and confirmed the home owners' account including the whole mob was not passing by but a group went up the private front walks and private lawn to the house. It led me to believe there are 911 tapes and security camera videos that were reviewed.

Then say hello to my little friend.

 

[Steal2B]

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