New Whitehouse.gov Petition - Pres. Trump, please give us a legitimate 9/11 Investigation

[Defilade]

true believers will always except that ridiculous conclusion the government would indict itself for crimes . that the government will tell the truth , and that the government is not capable . the government would openly reveal information that they had committed a crime.

All the evidence of 911 is gone. there is no point in arguing about it . demolitions cannot ever be proven without the physical evidence to back it up which no longer exists. we are only arguing theories, its pointless . I will say this , there is no way on earth that a asymmetrical fire caused a symmetrical collapse . Never, Not under any conditions can that ever be shown to be true and that is required to believe a fire collapsed 97 columns at the same time.

There was evidence and it was analyzed.

 

[Jackrabbit]

You could have except one big problem. People work there. The amount of explosives would be very apparent and in the way. Propositioning wouldn't get it around the right pillars and rigged correctly. And prepositioning gives to much chance of discovery and premature dentition . And you have people who were explosive experts who worked in that building and bomb dog teams that would come in and out of the secret service offices

I'm not sure that bomb sniffing dogs can detect thermite. Couldn't find any credible sources online via quick google search either way, but there is a lot of debate about this point.

Also, concerning the elevators, read this in=depth and excellent article: http://aneta.org/911experiments_com/AceElevator/

Also, we've been talking about Building 7, let's talk about.... Building 6, which was much closer to the towers than 7 (between 7 and the towers actually) and which was completely gutted by fire, but WHICH DID NOT GO DOWN, while building 7, further away and with little fire damage, ends up getting completely destroyed. Building 6 also suffered some unusual damage in that a huge crater was opened up in the center of the building at some point from roof to ground level; but Building 6 still did not go down. It had to be torn down by FEMA as part of the cleanup afterwards.

 

[Truebeliever]

I'm not sure that bomb sniffing dogs can detect thermite. Couldn't find any credible sources online via quick google search either way, but there is a lot of debate about this point.

Also, concerning the elevators, read this in=depth and excellent article: http://aneta.org/911experiments_com/AceElevator/

Also, we've been talking about Building 7, let's talk about.... Building 6, which was much closer to the towers than 7 (between 7 and the towers actually) and which was completely gutted by fire, but WHICH DID NOT GO DOWN, while building 7, further away and with little fire damage, ends up getting completely destroyed. Building 6 also suffered some unusual damage in that a huge crater was opened up in the center of the building at some point from roof to ground level; but Building 6 still did not go down. It had to be torn down by FEMA as part of the cleanup afterwards.

This is really reaching again.

Explosives in the evelators by the support shafts. The elevators were in use . Not all of them of course. Bomb dogs come in and out building seven all the time. Do think they took the stairs? No explosive residue either? After an explosion, even with a fire there would be a lot of it.



Let's see, as "proof" the employees evacuted after the second plane hit but the other company had employees rush into the buildings and die. Great proof there. There was a plan for evelator mechanics to stay-- and there was a plan for bus drivers to stay for Katrina too--but no one told them . And number two, non first responders can't be forced to do. Especially if it's contracted employees.

As far other buildings not falling, if you were at the pile, you would know better.

People at the pile had to evacuate because other buildings were in danger of falling as well. There was a meter but on the buildings to measure the sway and stability of the other buildings.

You are reaching

 

[Jackrabbit]

Another thing I should mention is that, building collapses aside, there is a measure of uncertainty about exactly what our government knew in advance about the attacks, and how much they deliberately allowed to happen. Even if those 2 planes "did" completely destroy three buildings all by themselves, there are many other questions on the table, including criminal negligence on the part of factions within our government.

I reiterate: I do not ascribe to any one conspiracy theory, my position has always been that we were never given the whole truth about 9/11. Can we really say this is a government of, by and for the people if the people are not given the whole truth?

cougholigarchycough

 

[Truebeliever]

Another thing I should mention is that, building collapses aside, there is a measure of uncertainty about exactly what our government knew in advance about the attacks, and how much they deliberately allowed to happen. Even if those 2 planes "did" completely destroy three buildings all by themselves, there are many other questions on the table, including criminal negligence on the part of factions within our government.

I reiterate: I do not ascribe to any one conspiracy theory, my position has always been that we were never given the whole truth about 9/11. Can we really say this is a government of, by and for the people if the people are not given the whole truth?

cougholigarchycough

Ok. Now that we helped show how the "prepositioned " conspiracy is debunked. Now to the


"What did the government know. "

That is been done to death. They show everything to the FBI info, to what they can tell of CIA/NSA data etc.

The reports go into how one agency doesn't talk to the other. That's why homeland security was created, along with other letter agency changes.

If you ever worked in the military or government agency, you would know how common this is.

 

[spat]

I'm not sure that bomb sniffing dogs can detect thermite. Couldn't find any credible sources online via quick google search either way, but there is a lot of debate about this point.

Also, concerning the elevators, read this in=depth and excellent article: http://aneta.org/911experiments_com/AceElevator/

Also, we've been talking about Building 7, let's talk about.... Building 6, which was much closer to the towers than 7 (between 7 and the towers actually) and which was completely gutted by fire, but WHICH DID NOT GO DOWN, while building 7, further away and with little fire damage, ends up getting completely destroyed. Building 6 also suffered some unusual damage in that a huge crater was opened up in the center of the building at some point from roof to ground level; but Building 6 still did not go down. It had to be torn down by FEMA as part of the cleanup afterwards.

Thermite smells like aluminum and rust, because it it made from....Aluminum and rust.

It is also not an explosive in any way.