Lots of body bags?
New York Proposes Banning Defensive Body Armor (S9407)
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Lots of body bags?
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meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
For everyone or are there some type of humans woth saving more over others ?
By their definition there are.
spat
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Recidivism rate of 0.00%
spat
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Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
What's next? IDK. Maybe to manufacture pseudo fear into the public in an attempt to get all NY'ers, man woman and child, to get a experimental so called $ vaccine $ injected into them that's not proven to be safe and effective.. Just so those NY'ers can be able to live a normal day to day life.
And keep their job... Yep, you're right, that's coercion.
So, yeah I know, the above paragraph is a little far out. My over active imagination got away from me again. We all know that could l never happen. Duh. That's crazy talk.
Anyways, from where I sit. It seems to me that the NY politicians probably will ban a "defensive" tool. But at the same time, defund the police and support the bail reform law.
So basically, NY politicians are not on the side of the good and respectable people of NY.
But you all already know that. And so did the shit ton of people who has already moved out of NY and to a different state by now. And so do the people waiting for their right time to do the same.
I and many others fall into that category.
And keep their job... Yep, you're right, that's coercion.
So, yeah I know, the above paragraph is a little far out. My over active imagination got away from me again. We all know that could l never happen. Duh. That's crazy talk.
Anyways, from where I sit. It seems to me that the NY politicians probably will ban a "defensive" tool. But at the same time, defund the police and support the bail reform law.
So basically, NY politicians are not on the side of the good and respectable people of NY.
But you all already know that. And so did the shit ton of people who has already moved out of NY and to a different state by now. And so do the people waiting for their right time to do the same.
I and many others fall into that category.
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Bigfoot
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With all due respect.
I hope FUKH sneezes so hard that her cunt blows out her nose.
Just sayin'
I hope FUKH sneezes so hard that her cunt blows out her nose.
Just sayin'
It tells me it is time to learn welding, buy a D-9 cat, and some steel sheet.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
And just more food for thought.
Rifle plates would still be legal. It applies to the soft body armor that people who need protection on an EDC basis might wear.
In addition, someone like high targeted person like celebrity, politician or drug cartel witness who had verified threats against them could not put on soft body armor by this law but might qualify for a CCW under current restrictions.
Rifle plates would still be legal. It applies to the soft body armor that people who need protection on an EDC basis might wear.
In addition, someone like high targeted person like celebrity, politician or drug cartel witness who had verified threats against them could not put on soft body armor by this law but might qualify for a CCW under current restrictions.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
but all the armor dealers will not sell to NY .. just like the AMMO stores ,, ... just because NY said so and they can't read the law .. ...
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
I’m more concerned with the possession part of the law. But realistically, I think NY would lose in court on this one. Again, it bans it for people who are known to be at high risk who don’t have a certain profession. A law to register it might pass muster but not in its current form
spat
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Allow me to introduce my new curved AR500 targets, with convenient carrier...
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Assuming you are really worried about rifle threats...
Steel is garbage. It's heavy. It doesn't absorb, rather deflects/destroys the projectile into spall. Build up layer only does so much. To me steel = shrapnel in an artery. Sure it's better then nothing I guess, but a stick is better than bare hands in a gun fight, doesn't mean I'd want a stick. Much better options are available for not much more. Standard AR500 Level 3 plates won't reliably stop M193 which is really common.
Level 3 steel plate (ar500.com branded) vs M193 below, spoiler it punches holes:
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Never go FULL retard...
NYS "hold my beer".
NYS "hold my beer".
Only if the cops, body guards, politicians and Uber wealthy can't wear it too. No armored cars and bulletproof suvs Same rules for everyone. No exemptions.
Not all of us in NYC.
Assuming you are really worried about rifle threats...
Steel is garbage. It's heavy. It doesn't absorb, rather deflects/destroys the projectile into spall. Build up layer only does so much. To me steel = shrapnel in an artery. Sure it's better then nothing I guess, but a stick is better than bare hands in a gun fight, doesn't mean I'd want a stick. Much better options are available for not much more. Standard AR500 Level 3 plates won't reliably stop M193 which is really common.
Level 3 steel plate (ar500.com branded) vs M193 below, spoiler it punches holes:
Hesco L210 is rated to stop both M193 and M855, which are far and away two of the most common rounds you'd ever face from a rifle in America. They cost under $200 per plate. They're also weight a lot less than steel.
Hesco also has QC problems in the past.. I'd skip those and go with a different manufacturer
Really? I never heard of that. I'm curious where you saw that or if I missed something. Not doubting you, but from what I've seen they are GTG.
Why We Don't Carry Hesco Armor
This is a question we are asked constantly. "Why don't you carry Hesco Armor?" Hopefully this post will shed some light on our reasons.
www.apexarmorsolutions.com
Take this with a grain of salt as I am only a (and I quote) "fakexpert"
spat
.950 JDJ
Because they've been indoctrinated into the "violence is never the answer" bullshit since kindergarten.
When violence is the only answer those people don't know what to do.
Thanks for sharing.Why We Don't Carry Hesco Armor
This is a question we are asked constantly. "Why don't you carry Hesco Armor?" Hopefully this post will shed some light on our reasons.
Take this with a grain of salt as I am only a (and I quote) "fakexpert"
spat
.950 JDJ
Oh, certainly there are better options than steel, unless price is your most critical criteria.Assuming you are really worried about rifle threats...
Steel is garbage. It's heavy. It doesn't absorb, rather deflects/destroys the projectile into spall. Build up layer only does so much. To me steel = shrapnel in an artery. Sure it's better then nothing I guess, but a stick is better than bare hands in a gun fight, doesn't mean I'd want a stick. Much better options are available for not much more. Standard AR500 Level 3 plates won't reliably stop M193 which is really common.
Level 3 steel plate (ar500.com branded) vs M193 below, spoiler it punches holes:
Hesco L210 is rated to stop both M193 and M855, which are far and away two of the most common rounds you'd ever face from a rifle in America. They cost under $200 per plate. They're also weight a lot less than steel.
But steel does have it's advantages.
Price being an obvious one, multi-hit capacity being another. I've got steel targets that have taken 1000s of rounds without failure. Try that with anything else.
L4 steel isn't much more than L3, I wouldn't bother with L3.
Ideally for an expedient economy solution I would say L4 steel under a cheap L2 vest. L2 may not stop much, but it'll stop spall just fine.
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Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Stop acting ad if cops have any option in this craziness. The rank and file cops have no say in it. Many cops buy their own vests. The second we retire, it’s a crime( or 15 days later depending on the interpretation of the law) . Security guards too. We have no say in this craziness.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Under this bill, that spall liner would become illegal.
spat
.950 JDJ
Everything will be illegal in NY eventually.
It will just be overlooked if you play along.
Glenn B
.308 Win
I did in 2019. In TX now.