Not sure what Trump is thinking. This is going to backfire on him.

[rsmitty]

So I'm wrong?

 

[rsmitty]

So...Tricare is not an insurance company?

 

[Doc8404]

God no. I am extremely pro LGBT and have been my entire adult life. I have friends and one of my children in that group. Doc was hitting up on me because he is a closet gay and his behavior toward me indicated that. Some people are classic examples of that self-hatred behavior.

LMAO. Hitting up on you. LMAO. I will leave that up to your daughter's friends.

 

[Doc8404]

Let's get back to the cost of LGBT's medically. As I understand, the military pays for health care insurance. So it doesn't matter if you're taking pills for hormonal change or Amoxicellin for a sore throat. The insurance company pays for it. Am I wrong?

It depends. If they seek treatment at a military medical treatment facility, it does not go through TRICARE. However we are paying as taxpayers. If they go out into town, then yes it goes through TRICARE. And taxes are still paying for

 

[dsdmmat]

So...Tricare is not an insurance company?

Actually no it is a quasi government/private enterprise that handles the benifits that people have earned by their military service.

 

[holdover]

no difference between a Sore throat and a sex change?

 

[rsmitty]

It depends. If they seek treatment at a military medical treatment facility, it does not go through TRICARE. However we are paying as taxpayers. If they go out into town, then yes it goes through TRICARE. And taxes are still paying for

So Tricare takes care of everyone off base? What I'm getting at is Health care is in place for everyone in the military. I is none of your business wether a patient gets hormonal treatment or pain relief.

 

[rsmitty]

no difference between a Sore throat and a sex change?

Let me get this straight...you think that ppl join the military for sex changes

 

[Robin]

Yeah right, were fucked!
Robin

 

[dubleuhb]

Tranny surgery is not health care!

 

[Doc8404]

So Tricare takes care of everyone off base? What I'm getting at is Health care is in place for everyone in the military. I is none of your business wether a patient gets hormonal treatment or pain relief.

I don't care WTF anyone gets treated for.
But when there aren't enough providers or money to treat TBIs and other casualties, how the fuck can we provide tx for this elective shit?

 

[rsmitty]

Actually no it is a quasi government/private enterprise that handles the benifits that people have earned by their military service.

Hmmm, quassigovernment/private?

 

[rsmitty]

I don't care WTF anyone gets treated for.
But when there aren't enough providers or money to treat TBIs and other casualties, how the fuck can we provide tx for this elective shit?

You pay tax to supply health care for all military personnel

 

[Doc8404]

You pay tax to supply health care for all military personnel

What's your point?
Elective surgeries are just that. And still supposed to be treated as such.

 

[holdover]

Let me get this straight...you think that ppl join the military for sex changes

Nope. Not necessarily, but Ahhhhhhhh takeing hormone pills might be a fucking clue that they might want a sex change .

everybody gets a sore throat once in a while. Not everybody takes hormone pills , one is part of natural condition the other is mentally ill. One sooths your throat the other removes your genitals, can you see the difference yet? let me know when you see the light.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I'm not understanding your angle @rsmitty .

The point is that you cannot join the military with any medical issues. Diabetes, back problems, mental problems, ect.

Transexualism is a mental disease. If for arguments sake you do not agree with that, you cannot join the military if you need hormones to function.

You can't join the military with a bad back requiring surgery to fix you.

You cannot join the military as a man requiring surgery to fix you and turn you into what you believe to be a woman.

This isn't the same as gay men and women. They join up with no medical ailments and perform their duties. They aren't on hormones or psychoactive medications. They are normal people that just like the same sex or both.

 

[rsmitty]

What's your point?
Elective surgeries are just that. And still supposed to be treated as such.

Insurance won't pay for elective surgery.

 

[rsmitty]

Nope. Not necessarily, but Ahhhhhhhh takeing hormone pills might be a fucking clue that they might want a sex change .

everybody gets a sore throat once in a while. Not everybody takes hormone pills , one is part of natural condition the other is mentally ill. One sooths your throat the other removes your genitals, can you see the difference yet? let me know when you see the light.

Jesus! A clue that they might want a sex change? WTF. You scamps come up with some weird shit

 

[Doc8404]

Insurance won't pay for elective surgery.

We were talking about military medicine and benefits. Not insurance.

 

[Doc8404]

Wow. Just wow.

 

[rsmitty]

We were talking about military medicine and benefits. Not insurance.

Medical insurance is part of the benefit package.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Medical insurance is part of the benefit package.

This isn't a job at the county we are taking about with benefits. This is a fighting force where you have to be fit to make the cut.

Are you going to respond to the post I mentioned you in or am I out of your safe space now too?

 

[dwa12479]

Insurance won't pay for elective surgery.

Chelsea Manning to undergo sex reassignment surgery

I'm sorry?

I wouldn't support a female soldier having her tits kicked up to a double D on the taxpayers dime any more than paying for reassignment surgery for a Tranny.

Manning ended a hunger strike begun last week after receiving assurances that the government would provide the surgery, said Chase Strangio, her lawyer and an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union.

Manning sued for access to hormone treatment, and the Army agreed to provide it last year.

 

[rsmitty]

Exsqueese me? I was mentioned?

 

[Marine Cpl]

8 posts up you were.

 

[Doc8404]

Medical insurance is part of the benefit package.

You don't understand how it works in the military medicine world as evidenced by your statements.

 

[rsmitty]

Chelsea Manning to undergo sex reassignment surgery

I'm sorry?

Sorry...no timeline set for her/his surgery. Besides I would have thought she/he was courts martialed for treason.

 

[rsmitty]

You don't understand how it works in the military medicine world as evidenced by your statements.

Why don't you explain it to me.

 

[dwa12479]

Sorry...no timeline set for her/his surgery. Besides I would have thought she/he was courts martialed for treason.

The current Pentagon policy calls for the government to provide the surgeries. WE the TAXPAYERS are on the hook for this rubbish. It's an ELECTIVE surgery. If you want it, by all means go ahead. But pony up the cash out of your own damn pocket, NOT out of mine.

Pentagon to keep paying for sex-change surgeries

It means the military health care system will be called on to provide such surgeries as routine treatments for the first time, unless the Trump administration changes Obama-era policies that allow transgender troops to remain on duty.

The amendment was brought by Rep. Vicky Hartzler, Missouri Republican and a member of the House Armed Services Committee, who said the military will be obligated to spend $3.7 billion the next 10 years on sex change operations.

 

[dwa12479]

Why don't you explain it to me.

Please be advised that @Doc8404 recently retired from the Navy as a Master Chief after some 25 years of distinguished service, many of which were in hospital administration. He knows a thing or two about the subject.