Snappo
6.5 Creedmoor
Did you really just say that? Aren't there anti-LGBT laws about same sex marriage in a bunch of states? Or is fake news making that shit up?
Not sure what Trump is thinking. This is going to backfire on him.
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Did you really just say that? Aren't there anti-LGBT laws about same sex marriage in a bunch of states? Or is fake news making that shit up?
Um if I'm correct all states allow same sex marriage
GuyMontag
.44 mag
Snappo, with all due respect, you're as mistaken about Joan of Arc as you are about same sex relationships.
Not the smartest way to hold a conversation your so passionate about. no?
Snappo
6.5 Creedmoor
I thought a bunch of states didn't allow it? A few years ago it was a big deal when a State allowed it and suddenly a bunch of people would zoom out to get married and ham it up in front of the news cameras. I'll have to google it. Maybe SCOTUS banned states doing that shit.
Snappo
6.5 Creedmoor
I disagree. If I absolutely hate someone (as much as you really can hate someone on the anonymous internet); I don't give a fuck about their world view and don't even care to hear their opinion. I view them as someone you would drive your car over and keep going. Human speed bump.
Snappo
6.5 Creedmoor
Joan of Arc was FTM. She never once wore female clothing. Hated it. She is one of the more famous trans people in history. She thought God commanded her to be this heroic male warrior.
Cross-dressing, gender identity, and sexuality of Joan of Arc - Wikipedia
After her capture during the siege of Compiegne while retreating from a failed attack at Margny, Joan was sold to the English, imprisoned, and subsequently put on trial for heresy. Despite the attempts by the judges to induce her to repent for her wearing of male attire, Joan repeatedly defended the wearing of this clothing as a "small matter" that was "the commandment of God and his angels." As Pernoud and Clin note, "Other questions about her mode of dress provoked only repetitions of these answers: She had done nothing that was not by the commandment of God. Probably not even Cauchon could then have guessed the importance that her mode of dress would come to assume."
Joan signed a cedula, possibly without understanding the text, indicating that she would no longer wear men's clothing, only to "relapse" later, giving the court justification to have her executed ("Only those who had relapsed -- that is, those who having once adjured their errors returned to them -- could be condemned to death by a tribunal of the Inquisition and delivered for death.") On May 30, 1431, Joan of Arc was burned at the stake.
GuyMontag
.44 mag
Snappo, how can you be so emotionally invested in a subject without educating yourself as to the actual FACTS?
SCOTUS ruled on the subject years ago, it's settled law.
Nobody thought Joan of Arc was a dude, not sure where you're getting that nonsense from.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Even if the person you hate has actual facts and experience? That goes to show your intellect. Just like a typical liberal. "I hate you no matter what facts you have and cannot listen." lol.
That's a good way to learn. I really hate you but unignored you a long time ago because I actually learned something from you on another gun related thread. I also didn't want to look like a fool like you are doing when you keep arguing the same point over and over after it was debunked because you cannot read it.
Who am I kidding? You read it by pressing the "show ignored content" occasionally. You just pretend not to and keep arguing the same point because it suits you. You aren't fooling anyone.
Just googled it, it's legal in all 50
Snappo
6.5 Creedmoor
I'm invested in trans people having equal rights. I am against the persecutions we saw from assholes like Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Emperor of Japan, Idi Amin, Pol Pot, etc. They pick some fringe group and fuck with them; often to promote national unity or to just steal the wealth of that fringe group. It's wrong. Now certainly I doubt Trump will try and steal their wealth or execute them; but his first step was kick them out of the military, and second step (in progress now) is Trump challenging the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to say that LGBT is not a protected group of people. Once he kicks them out of government completely, who knows what or if there is a third step. Maybe saying Trans people cannot have guns? If he does it that way, he is exactly following the steps Himmler did against LGBT in the mid 1930's.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Keep digging yourself deeper. You claim to be an educated man but this you wrote above proves that education doesn't mean you are intelligent.
Wow, you really believe this shit? I suggest that if you are going to use Joan of Arc for your delusion, you should read a lot more about her from other sources. There was a reason why she dressed as a man, but it was not because she thought she was a dude and wanted to glue on a Penis. Really, really stretching to make the Trannys more normal.
They're trying to coopt history to thier sick worldview now. How disgusting is this?
Snappo
6.5 Creedmoor
That's one huge drop of good news in a thread about bad news! Thanks! I'm still worried about this no trans military thing, or Title VII being challenged so LGBT aren't a protected group of people. For what evil reason do Trump and Sessions care about Amicus Curae with regard to Title VII? Why do they care if LGBT is covered in the CRA of 64? Trump is evil; and Pence has a long history of denying LGBT rights. He blames gays for the collapse of society. Not crime, not single family parenting, not the opium epidemic, not STD's, not under-education, not inner city ghetto subcultures of anti-authority, etc. Just LGBT - the total cause of everything.
Here's What Mike Pence Said on LGBT Issues Over the Years
By wanting gays and other freaks to fall under the Civil Rights Act, just shows how insane the discussion has become. How are gays a special group, why and how are they more special than a normal straight? I hang out with women, gays hang out with other dudes, they should be protected because of that?
GuyMontag
.44 mag
Snappo, you can try all you like, the majority of people will NEVER view a psychological issue as a Civil Rights matter.
It's 2017, you can marry any dude or chick you like, changing the plumbing is ALL about what's wrong in your head.
Curious how you can't offer ANY reply to the huge % of sex-reassignment surgeries that patients later regret doing.
Contrary to what you may have convinced yourself, gender is NOT subjective for 99.44% of humans.
It's 2017, you can marry any dude or chick you like, changing the plumbing is ALL about what's wrong in your head.
Curious how you can't offer ANY reply to the huge % of sex-reassignment surgeries that patients later regret doing.
Contrary to what you may have convinced yourself, gender is NOT subjective for 99.44% of humans.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Thats like saying that I should be a protected group because I'm a straight man that likes to have sex with pumpkins. What does what I like to stick my dick into have to do with civil rights? I'm still a man. A gay man is still a man. A man that's celibate like a priest is still a man.
Snappo
6.5 Creedmoor
The majority of heterosexual people view LGBT as not needing to be protected. Heterosexuals rarely care when an LGBT person is killed, assaulted, or raped for being LGBT. For the most part, heterosexual people (myself included) do not fully understand the plight of LGBT folks.
For the most part I have found that people on this board that are heterosexual feel they are BETTER than someone that is LGBT, and go out of their way to use derogatory terms when referring to them. Like that shitstain cop that went on and on about Trans people wearing high heeled boots on active duty. And we wonder why folks don't trust cops, or don't care when a cop is killed in action. His "I am better than the people I serve" attitude is pathetic.
I don't know why all people that get SRS regret it since almost all of the people that get SRS are not asked to be part of a major study, but I have heard some say that even after SRS they are equally mistreated and abused by people who can "clock them" - meaning know they are obviously trans. They are so abused by society and their family / friends that they just wish they dealt quietly with the dysphoria alone and didn't try to change themselves because suffering in silence was preferable to the abuse. In a way, I can understand and agree with that feeling. Many kill themselves after "coming out" because of the abuse and isolation from their circle of friends and family.
Unlike anyone else on this testosterone driven, mostly homophobic board; I do have a few (two) trans friends and have a gay daughter. The abuse they are dealt on a daily basis is patently unfair. Anyone that is even a little bit objective can read these threads and see just how fucked up this LGBT group is treated. Scroll up. Words like Tranny, faggot, mental disorder, and other slurs were thrown out there by the homophobes of this site. I almost get the feeling that to be a supporter of the Second Amendment and gun ownership that you actually have to hate gays, hate trans, hate social programs, and in general hate anyone that isn't a white christian. This makes me wonder if half the people on this site are also on Stormfront or some other skin head site.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Hoover was a cross dresser not a trans so is Guliiani
GuyMontag
.44 mag
Snappo, your heart is in the right place, but you're projecting an awful lot of your own feelings onto others without cause.
Can I hate the Welfare State, and still think individuals should have the right to marry whomever they want?
Can I correctly identify the nature of the problem as a PSYCHOLOGICAL one, without risk of being called intolerant?
Can I hate the Welfare State, and still think individuals should have the right to marry whomever they want?
Can I correctly identify the nature of the problem as a PSYCHOLOGICAL one, without risk of being called intolerant?
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
""For the most part I have found that people on this board that are heterosexual feel they are BETTER than someone that is LGBT, and go out of their way to use derogatory terms when referring to them.""Snappo
"""I disagree. If I absolutely hate someone (as much as you really can hate someone on the anonymous internet); I don't give a fuck about their world view and don't even care to hear their opinion. I view them as someone you would drive your car over and keep going. Human speed bump."""Snappo
Irony ,thy name is Snappo
No wonder your kid is fucked up. can you step outside yourself for minute and see what you look like?
"""I disagree. If I absolutely hate someone (as much as you really can hate someone on the anonymous internet); I don't give a fuck about their world view and don't even care to hear their opinion. I view them as someone you would drive your car over and keep going. Human speed bump."""Snappo
Irony ,thy name is Snappo
No wonder your kid is fucked up. can you step outside yourself for minute and see what you look like?
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Ya know the best part is we will all be on his Ignore list and he will be talking to himself.. See! Mental illness!
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
If you don't agree with him he shuts you down. and the only person who keeps bring up religion , is him. I don't think one person offered a religious perspective of it. Pretty obvious I got voted off his island.
Cureforcancer
.223 Rem
He has been trolling us all. You guys do realize that...right?
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Seems he maxed out at something.
Robin
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
How about if the NBA or the NFL made it mandatory that half the players must be white and 25% females on the teams
That's fair right? But it would fuck the game up wouldn't it?
Let the coaches pick the players stay the fuck out of it.
That's fair right? But it would fuck the game up wouldn't it?
Let the coaches pick the players stay the fuck out of it.
He is talking to himself now, ya know.. face palm.