Ny commies have now told you how you can heat your home

[Saltwater60]

Yep it’s done. I knew they would. I will not comply and will buy a furnace from PA. I just don’t care.

NY plans to change the way you heat your home. Gas, oil, propane furnaces to be phased out

The state Climate Action Council today approved policies to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

www.syracuse.com

 

[kev74]

Keep it up assholes. Keep it up.

I'm starting to think about a dual fuel wood/oil unit when mine dies.

There's a lot of energy in the plastic recyclables. Just saying.

 

[fnfalguy]

How much heat is there in burning tires? Asking for a friend.

 

[Rocpo]

Depends who's wearing them

 

[99cummins]

“The more popular air-source heat pumps extract heat from outside and pump it into the house, much like an air conditioner in reverse.”

How do you get heat from 20 degree outside air? I doubt natural gas and propane companies are going to go down without a fight.

 

[Jsmegs77]

Tractor Supply by me has a lovely wood furnace on the floor. I’ve been thinking of teeing it into the ductwork to supplement or replace the NG hot air furnace. Suck on it, Hokum. I’m gonna burn trees!

 

[Saltwater60]

“The more popular air-source heat pumps extract heat from outside and pump it into the house, much like an air conditioner in reverse.”

How do you get heat from 20 degree outside air? I doubt natural gas and propane companies are going to go down without a fight.

It’s done. They lost the fight.
So here is what will happen as has happened in other areas. You electric bill will rapidly rise because they need to upgrade the grid to cover all the increase in energy. Heating with electric is more expensive so your energy costs will rise just heating with it alone. Then they will still keep up the gas infrastructure forever so you will pay for that as well. It will take years and years for everyone to convert and last I saw you could still have a whole house gas back up generator.
Oh I just hope all you guys upsized you whole house generators. I just did the math and I will have to choose between heating my house or hot water with the portable generator size I have.

 

[Saltwater60]

Tractor Supply by me has a lovely wood furnace on the floor. I’ve been thinking of teeing it into the ductwork to supplement or replace the NG hot air furnace. Suck on it, Hokum. I’m gonna burn trees!

I’m sure this will become illegal as well.
I can’t wait until state parks ban fires because they be bad.

 

[JRtraderny]

It’s done. They lost the fight.
So here is what will happen as has happened in other areas. You electric bill will rapidly rise because they need to upgrade the grid to cover all the increase in energy. Heating with electric is more expensive so your energy costs will rise just heating with it alone. Then they will still keep up the gas infrastructure forever so you will pay for that as well. It will take years and years for everyone to convert and last I saw you could still have a whole house gas back up generator.
Oh I just hope all you guys upsized you whole house generators. I just did the math and I will have to choose between heating my house or hot water with the portable generator size I have.

My best friend put in a gas forced air furnace because the electric baseboard heat almost broke him. And those mini-splits aren't all they're cracked up to be either.

 

[Hochulsucks1234]

I heat with an outdoor wood boiler (BANNED). I have backup woodstoves in the house and garage (both older style..BANNED). Also have another woodstove put away as backup (also BANNED). If the boiler shits out I will go to PA and buy another. I stopped following their stupid bullshit laws years ago.

 

[GOPerfect]

As per usual...

I see the greatness of this proposal. I am glad this is being done.

 

[ManualF150]

I could see this too as if you want to sell or buy a house, you'll be forced to change the heating system.

Imagine not being able to sell your house to move out of NY Shitty because your furnace isn't electric?

 

[GOPerfect]

I could see this too as if you want to sell or buy a house, you'll be forced to change the heating system.

Imagine not being able to sell your house to move out of NY Shitty because your furnace isn't electric?

Always other options.

 

[Keyzard]

I could see this too as if you want to sell or buy a house, you'll be forced to change the heating system.

Imagine not being able to sell your house to move out of NY Shitty because your furnace isn't electric?

Sort of related, Cheektowaga required a sewer inspection before they would let me sell my house. They charge $100 for an inspector to make sure your downspouts and sump pump aren't discharging into the sewer system.

They didn't require that when we bought the place 23 years ago. Somewhere along the way they quietly changed the rules and made it my problem.

 

[fnfalguy]

Always other options.

 

[Saltwater60]

Sort of related, Cheektowaga required a sewer inspection before they would let me sell my house. They charge $100 for an inspector to make sure your downspouts and sump pump aren't discharging into the sewer system.

They didn't require that when we bought the place 23 years ago. Somewhere along the way they quietly changed the rules and made it my problem.

Same with my town. They call it a sump pump inspection though. I believe a town close to me makes you out your sump pump to the storm sewer in order to sell your home.

 

[FrankenCub]

I'll continue to burn wood for as long as I'm stuck in this cesspool

 

[Dr. Evil]

Just put a new gas furnace in recently. Fuck you NYS politicians.

 

[99cummins]

It’s done. They lost the fight.
So here is what will happen as has happened in other areas. You electric bill will rapidly rise because they need to upgrade the grid to cover all the increase in energy. Heating with electric is more expensive so your energy costs will rise just heating with it alone. Then they will still keep up the gas infrastructure forever so you will pay for that as well. It will take years and years for everyone to convert and last I saw you could still have a whole house gas back up generator.
Oh I just hope all you guys upsized you whole house generators. I just did the math and I will have to choose between heating my house or hot water with the portable generator size I have.

My 50+ year old boiler still runs perfect. The wood burning insert provides most of our heat. Only thing I might get screwed on is the hot water tank. Could always go to pa for a new natural gas one when the time comes. My pto powered generator is already oversized a bit so I don’t have to worry about that yet. And I power it with old, reliable, pre emissions diesel tractors. I am curious to see how you would efficiently heat a large shop space/garage with electric heat.

 

[libertysnake]

It’s done. They lost the fight.
So here is what will happen as has happened in other areas. You electric bill will rapidly rise because they need to upgrade the grid to cover all the increase in energy. Heating with electric is more expensive so your energy costs will rise just heating with it alone. Then they will still keep up the gas infrastructure forever so you will pay for that as well. It will take years and years for everyone to convert and last I saw you could still have a whole house gas back up generator.
Oh I just hope all you guys upsized you whole house generators. I just did the math and I will have to choose between heating my house or hot water with the portable generator size I have.

If it comes down to complying, or feeding your family, then they're playing a dangerous game. That's all I'm saying.

 

[Depick]

Screw it! Just keep piling the shit on. Eventually a collapse is guaranteed.

 

[SonOfSun]

“The more popular air-source heat pumps extract heat from outside and pump it into the house, much like an air conditioner in reverse.”

How do you get heat from 20 degree outside air?

The same way your A/C blows out cold air when it's 80+ both in and outside your car.

20F is 267 degrees C above absolute zero. There is a lot of energy there.

 

[Saltwater60]

If it comes down to complying, or feeding your family, then they're playing a dangerous game. That's all I'm saying.

As stated I’ll just drive to PA to get it done. I’ll buy the same furnace I have now, install it and a friend does hvac. I’ll have my friend come over and service it to ensure all the pressures and what not are proper since he has the tools.

 

[Saltwater60]

If it comes down to complying, or feeding your family, then they're playing a dangerous game. That's all I'm saying.

As stated I’ll just drive to PA to get it done. I’ll buy the same furnace I have now, install it and a friend does hvac. I’ll have my friend come over and service it t

 

[Acer-m14]

This will end well .. all the mandatory EV auto and now Heat Pumps ..

Plug EV Car in to charge .. .. house heat goes out .. LOL ..

 

[holdover]

Syracuse, N.Y. – A state commission today approved plans to phase out fossil fuel-burning furnaces beginning as soon as 2025 as part of New York’s aggressive program to address climate change.


Climate change is a political tool to control People and business and natural resources. It has nothing to do with saving the earth

What the sheep dont realize is that the same farmer that feeds them is the same one that cuts their throats.

 

[Cavalry]

I feel bad for the poor bastards with a 100 year old house with HHB retrofitted in say the 70's with a hot water maker with a maxed out 100A panel. No ductwork to put a air to air HP in and a air to water only makes like 120 degree water, My shower water is hotter. Speaking of showers your hot water maker isn't going to work for shit, spend more money. A 10 ton HP is probably 30-40 amps on its own, a service upgrade would be in order.
A $4000 furnace job is going to turn into $10000+++ and not work as well in the end. We wont even get into the infrastructure issues to make this nonsense even happen.

 

[MuttCat]

My mini fusion reactor is almost completed...I'm going to be rich....

 

[Bigfoot]

Mask Denier Pure Blood Climate Change Denier checking in.

I just want to be left alone.

I'm tired of being told what to do.
I'm tired of being told what I can or can not legally own.

I just want to live like an American, as I used to be able to do.

 

[IrishMick]

Even if these heat pumps were the greatest thing since sliced bread and every swinging dick was 100% on board to swap over there is no possible way to get it done by 2025 or 2030. There simply isn’t the amount of HVAC contractors to even come close tp that goal. There is also the issue of parts and equipment supply which wouldn’t come close to this amount of demand. Typical NYS government, pass a law with no way to implement it in reality. Just like the ammo background check, pass it and have no way to get it done.