NY SAFE Act And Its Recertification Fiasco

[GOPerfect]

Its their mess , let them clean it up. you guys are acting like its the end of the world. Fuck em, let em send you notification first.

I hate to say it, but you guys are the first ones to comply with the safe act. You all have a lot of anger, but don't do squat when push comes to shove. MOLON LABE my ass, If King Cuomo and merry men want to take the guns , then let them come and take them ,, let him arrest your grandpa see what kind of fucked up mess he creates. If your not willing to go to jail for your convictions your certainly not ready to die for them either. And if you aint ready to do that , then guys like Cuomo are going to have a fucking field day because they know they can get away with anything .

Its going to get a lot worse unless you tell yourself your ready to make a stand , if not , Theres no way the 2nd survives .Sending 100 bucks to the NRA every year aint cutting the mustard. Resist or comply, that's it. But if you comply I don't want to hear about bad the guns laws are here. Who do you think is going to stand up for you? Whos going to save you? Fucking nobody, that's who. You want things to change? Then start fucking changing them.At least the ragheads had the stones to say no. They took up arms against an overwhelming enemy, knowing they aint coming back because they actually believed they were doing the right thing. The Guys here in NY are afraid to miss a day of work.

Let the fucking idiot start arresting people in mass like they did in Germany, let see how that plays out for him . And I got some playoff tickets if you want to buy them too.

@holdover , I am very surprised how many people do nothing at all to change the things they do not like or agree with.

Everywhere I look, I see sheep.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Its their mess , let them clean it up. you guys are acting like its the end of the world. Fuck em, let em send you notification first.

I hate to say it, but you guys are the first ones to comply with the safe act. You all have a lot of anger, but don't do squat when push comes to shove. MOLON LABE my ass, If King Cuomo and merry men want to take the guns , then let them come and take them ,, let him arrest your grandpa see what kind of fucked up mess he creates. If your not willing to go to jail for your convictions your certainly not ready to die for them either. And if you aint ready to do that , then guys like Cuomo are going to have a fucking field day because they know they can get away with anything .

Its going to get a lot worse unless you tell yourself your ready to make a stand , if not , Theres no way the 2nd survives .Sending 100 bucks to the NRA every year aint cutting the mustard. Resist or comply, that's it. But if you comply I don't want to hear about bad the guns laws are here. Who do you think is going to stand up for you? Whos going to save you? Fucking nobody, that's who. You want things to change? Then start fucking changing them.At least the ragheads had the stones to say no. They took up arms against an overwhelming enemy, knowing they aint coming back because they actually believed they were doing the right thing. The Guys here in NY are afraid to miss a day of work.

Let the fucking idiot start arresting people in mass like they did in Germany, let see how that plays out for him . And I got some playoff tickets if you want to buy them too.

I value my defense and the defense of my family. Say what you want but I'm not putting my family's life in jeopardy to prove a fruitless point that'll either make you recertify anyway or possibly lose your guns temporarily or perhaps permanent if you don't have the money for a lawyer. You already bent over when you registered in duplicate to the county and the state every time you made an amendment and bought a pistol.

With those things I do not play with. This is totally different than not registering a rifle they don't know about. Totally different.

If it makes you feel good to not do it and eventually have to do it later, than more power to you. I'm not a single kid living in a basement or a grey beard with nothing to lose. I'm not saying that you are but the majority that say fuck it are. That's the truth.

My 2 cents. Flame on and say what you will but you will recertify one way or another.

 

[Greywolf224]

I value my defense and the defense of my family. Say what you want but I'm not putting my family's life in jeopardy to prove a fruitless point that'll either make you recertify anyway or possibly lose your guns temporarily or perhaps permanent if you don't have the money for a lawyer.

With those things I do not play with. This is totally different than not registering a rifle they don't know about. Totally different.

If it makes you feel good to not do it and eventually have to do it later, than more power to you. I'm not a single kid living in a basement or a grey beard with nothing to lose. I'm not saying that you are but the majority that say fuck it are. That's the truth.

My 2 cents. Flame on and say what you will but you will recertify one way or another.

Totally agree.

 

[SmallGameAddict]

Not exactly, there is a maximum of six months to issue or deny once the Issuing Authority receives the packet. It may take up to a year before the Judge actually gets the paperwork.

Either way, much too long in NY State.

Thank you. I stand corrected. "Issuing Authority" meaning the "License Issuing Officer" proper, the clock doesn't start ticking when you hand in your completed packet at the Pistol Permit Dept.

 

[GOPerfect]

Thank you. I stand corrected. "Issuing Authority" meaning the "License Issuing Officer" proper, the clock doesn't start ticking when you hand in your completed packet at the Pistol Permit Dept.

Like I said, it is still a freaken joke!

 

[Robin]

Lot of tough guys here. I'll choose the time and place for my stand, this isn't it.
Robin

 

[Marine Cpl]

Lot of tough guys here. I'll choose the time and place for my stand, this isn't it.
Robin

An effective stand is an armed organized stand instead of not registering something you already registered. That's just stupid.

 

[Darth]

Lot of tough guys here. I'll choose the time and place for my stand, this isn't it.
Robin

Considered joining the NRA? That's their new motto!

 

[SmallGameAddict]

Like I said, it is still a freaken joke!

True story.

 

[holdover]

I'm not saying everyone should pick up a gun and starting shooting. There are other ways to to resist. Every man decides for himself how to handle it. Are you willing to go to jail for your convictions? Are you willing to stand up for your rights ?it's not about being a tough guy it's about doing what you believe is right .doing the right thing.

Because if you dont, it only gets worse from here. This is just the beginning. If I had a legal handgun I'd be inclined to sell it, and obtain one though other channels. I would neither disarm or Comply .but I sure as shut ain't going to let this fucking criminal tyrant tell me how to live or die

 

[Robin]

Considered joining the NRA? That's their new motto!

So tough guy, whats your plan, maybe you and GOP(already complied), and Holdover(status unknown) can mount an offensive.
Robin

 

[Darth]

So tough guy, whats your plan, maybe you and GOP(already complied), and Holdover(status unknown) can mount an offensive.
Robin

Ask Will, he already has us all figured out in his own mind.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Ask Will, he already has us all figured out in his own mind.

I've got you figured out. I'm not voting for Trump. You did after I said you would. I'll use a fully featured AR for home defense. I don't care. You instead have a shotgun on your headboard. I'm not going to recertify. You'll recertify quietly when your
5 years is up. You aren't going to refuse and shoot it out like you said you would in the very first thread.

 

[Darth]

I've got you figured out. I'm not voting for Trump. You did after I said you would. I'll use a fully featured AR for home defense. I don't care. You instead have a shotgun on your headboard. I'm not going to recertify. You'll recertified quietly when your
5 years is up. You aren't going to refuse and shoot it out like you said you would in the very first thread.

Hey, one of those things is true. It's a new record for you.

 

[GOPerfect]

So tough guy, whats your plan, maybe you and GOP(already complied), and Holdover(status unknown) can mount an offensive.
Robin

@Robin , I have never claimed to be a tough guy, at least not on the internet. As stated, I re-certified online a couple of days ago. No issues. I only gave them information that they already had. Nothing more and nothing less.

As for some of my other statements, there are way too many people, to include members here, that talk and talk and do nothing about what ails them. So many, so often, do nothing but complain about the situation that they find themselves. Very little action. Many do not vote. Many do not get involved in their communities. I would bet quite a lot that many here have never been to a school board meeting, a Local Town/City meeting or gone to the County Legislature meeting. Most have probably never even written their elected officials.

No, I am no internet tough guy, I put my money and my time where my mouth is. I get involved at ALL levels to attempt to better the society that I live.

I reach out to people all of the time to get others moving as well. Sure, I do a lot of complaining, but I do more than that.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Hey, one of those things is true. It's a new record for you.

Nah. I'm batting 3 for 3. I can pull up the other post if you want tomorrow (I'm going to bed soon.) when you said you would jeopardize your parents lives when they kick in your door to come and get them.

 

[Darth]

You do that. Sweet dreams.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Robin, I have never claimed to be a tough guy, at least not on the internet. As stated, I re-certified online a couple of days ago. No issues. I only gave them information that they already had. Nothing more and nothing less.

As for some of my other statements, there are way too many people, to include members here, that talk and talk and do nothing about what ails them. So many, so often, do nothing but complain about the situation that they find themselves. Very little action. Many do not vote. Many do not get involved in their communities. I would bet quite a lot that many here have never been to a school board meeting, a Local Town/City meeting or gone to the County Legislature meeting. Most have probably never even written their elected officials.

No, I am no internet tough guy, I put my money and my time where my mouth is. I get involved at ALL levels to attempt to better the society that I live.

I reach out to people all of the time to get others moving as well. Sure, I do a lot of complaining, but I do more than that.

Many of us do those things. Some of us have come to the realization that 4 people aren't going to make a difference though. The proof is in the pudding. How many letters did we send Skelos and our representatives who's interns filed those letters in the garbage and told us that they will let him or her know our concerns.

I'm not saying you specifically but I think only a fool will think that will work unless they can convince the millions in NYC.

 

[FrankenCub]

I don't think Cuomo and his minions are going to go as far as allowing ANYONE to re-certify after the date comes to pass, this is their opportunity to take what isn't theirs. He wants this state disarmed, it's that simple. I bent over, spread my cheeks, and re-certified last night online otherwise I most likely would have forgotten to do it. They already know what I have and where I live. Why give them the opportunity to further oppress me by demanding I turn in my handguns? That's fuckin stupid. I for one can NOT afford to replace any of them. There isn't a Senator, Justice, or Circuit Court in NY that is willing to help defend our Rights. We can't even get SCOTUS to step up to the plate to defend us against unconstitutional laws, especially when it comes to the 2nd.

 

[GOPerfect]

Many of us do those things. Some of us have come to the realization that 4 people aren't going to make a difference though. The proof is in the pudding. How many letters did we send Skelos and our representatives who's interns filed those letters in the garbage and told us that they will let him or her know our concerns.

I'm not saying you specifically but I think only a fool will think that will work unless they can convince the millions in NYC.

Will I disagree none with what you have written here tonight. There are people all across this great land that get involved. I am a patient man. My time will come, our time will come. I never give up. A few defeats here and there mean very little to me. I continue to fight on.

 

[bobbyd3]

Wheres shooter and the tresmonds when you need them.

 

[Acer-m14]

i can comment in this thread and not get banned @GOPerfect will get it ... NYSP WE NEED YOUR HELP hehehe LOL ...

 

[spat]

I'm not saying everyone should pick up a gun and starting shooting. There are other ways to to resist. Every man decides for himself how to handle it. Are you willing to go to jail for your convictions? Are you willing to stand up for your rights ?it's not about being a tough guy it's about doing what you believe is right .doing the right thing.

Because if you dont, it only gets worse from here. This is just the beginning. If I had a legal handgun I'd be inclined to sell it, and obtain one though other channels. I would neither disarm or Comply .but I sure as shut ain't going to let this fucking criminal tyrant tell me how to live or die

You don't win a war by dying for your country, you win a war by making the other bastard die for his.

Guerrillas don't engage in every fight they see, that would be suicide. They walk by the gov troops and smile and wave hello 99% of the time. They only fight on their terms, not on the government's.

So, you register the guns they know about, because they already know. And when they tell you to turn them all in, you turn in all the ones they know about.

But you damn well don't turn in the ones they don't know about, and you make sure you have some of them, cause you're about to use them.

 

[Robin]

@Robin , I have never claimed to be a tough guy, at least not on the internet. As stated, I re-certified online a couple of days ago. No issues. I only gave them information that they already had. Nothing more and nothing less.

As for some of my other statements, there are way too many people, to include members here, that talk and talk and do nothing about what ails them. So many, so often, do nothing but complain about the situation that they find themselves. Very little action. Many do not vote. Many do not get involved in their communities. I would bet quite a lot that many here have never been to a school board meeting, a Local Town/City meeting or gone to the County Legislature meeting. Most have probably never even written their elected officials.

No, I am no internet tough guy, I put my money and my time where my mouth is. I get involved at ALL levels to attempt to better the society that I live.

I reach out to people all of the time to get others moving as well. Sure, I do a lot of complaining, but I do more than that.

I have done all those things but have to admit that I have passed the torch on some. These days I pray for Gods wisdom that I might apply my energies when and where they might be most effective.
Keeping the faith.
Robin

 

[fartgamer]

Just wondering... Why is there not a civil rights class action lawsuit on behalf of EVERY singe PP holder in NYS against Cuomo, Shiedelmann, and every person who voted for this abortion of a law citing violation of their constitutional rights?.......


.

Ask Tresmond and that other guy,...... what was his name?

 

[ArmedCorgi]

that other guy,...... what was his name?

 

[Edwardteach72]

Just wondering... Why is there not a civil rights class action lawsuit on behalf of EVERY singe PP holder in NYS against Cuomo, Shiedelmann, and every person who voted for this abortion of a law citing violation of their constitutional rights? I'm not just talking just 2A, but 4A (search and siezure), 5A (due process), 6A(speedy trial), 7A (jury), 8A (excessive fines), and 14A (due process).

If every PP holder and other concerned 2A supporter in the state threw $20 into a legal fund to get some high powered legal talent, I think they could crush this rotten state. Just saying...

Due Process
Substantive due process
Takings

Every case that has been tried against the safe act has already fallen short (you know it' not a winnble case when the NRA leaves out the back door) only thing that all the courts other than SCOTUS tossed out was 7 round limit

 

[Robin]

It has a whole lot more to do with the ineptitude of the people we relied on and the organizations that we trusted with out money than anything else. Our cause is just, our cause is constitutional.
Robin

 

[timboy]

Wheres shooter and the tresmonds when you need them.

Back under their rock where the state told them to go...

 

[SmallGameAddict]

@Robin , I have never claimed to be a tough guy, at least not on the internet. As stated, I re-certified online a couple of days ago. No issues. I only gave them information that they already had. Nothing more and nothing less.

As for some of my other statements, there are way too many people, to include members here, that talk and talk and do nothing about what ails them. So many, so often, do nothing but complain about the situation that they find themselves. Very little action. Many do not vote. Many do not get involved in their communities. I would bet quite a lot that many here have never been to a school board meeting, a Local Town/City meeting or gone to the County Legislature meeting. Most have probably never even written their elected officials.

No, I am no internet tough guy, I put my money and my time where my mouth is. I get involved at ALL levels to attempt to better the society that I live.

I reach out to people all of the time to get others moving as well. Sure, I do a lot of complaining, but I do more than that.

Ditto