I don’t fault Will or anyone else for registering. I’m sure he has adequate options which cannot be taken from him.
NYPD confiscation
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I haven't. I wish I did. I didn't so I can toe the line but realized it was all nonsense not to register when you have people here registering fixed mag AR pistols and getting kudos for it.
I could have registered just one AR for actual home use and made others compliant that they didn't know about.
I wrote a whole thread on it.
subsonic
.44 mag
Or alternatively you could use legal processes applicable to disarming dangerously mentally ill people with due process, which is not what what happened here, by the police’s public account.
Let’s just take the police at their word that they simply confiscated a hunting rifle with expired registration and bragged about #OneLessGun in the community because in actual fact they have private info that the man is too unstable to own a gun.
Mr passive aggressive here is awesome.
subsonic
.44 mag
You talking to me? I can only speak for myself but I never called you a liar. I did question whether there’s never a DV response to a first incident at an address, that’s it, and that’s largely irrelevant. Maybe it’s different in NYC but any peace officer can do a DIR, who cares. I assume if you are a professional you are not commenting on an incident that you were involved with so you weren’t there either.
Tell me, what part of this “more to the story” report makes you feel good about a triumphalist #OneLessGun police tweet about a rifle summarily seized because it wasn’t reregistered?
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you missed this post.
I believe any sort of “cheering” except amongst ourselves while drinking afterwards is stupid. Having been in DV for quite a few years though I understand the reason why guns are removed from homes from time to time. As I said earlier, I made the decision not to remove guns twice last week and mostly that’s how I proceed but sometimes its the prudent and correct choice and when a CV says it on camera, it’s definitely the right choice for self-preservation alone.
I’ve never wavered from saying that my ideals do have a limit: when I come up against a guaranteed firing situation, I’m definitely making the choice many here would disagree with because I’d be an idiot not to.
99.9% of the people I encounter at work caused their own problems anyway. I don’t go looking for these people. My position is 100% reactive to reports made by complainants. I don’t deal in “victimless” crimes. We’re basically detectives but only deal with DV. I personally know every officer involved in this story. I was with the CO who sent that tweet on saturday at our kids’ soccer games. He was actually the one who gave me this spot when he was my CO 4 years ago.
Keep in mind that DV victims have very strong attorney networks behind them. If I was the supervisor in this case and had left that gun in the house after she requested it be removed and she ended up shot, do you think the NRA (or anyone else) would send lawyers to stop me from losing my job?
And thanks for not calling me a liar. We argue here a lot and move past it like men but that goes too far. I ended that and dont regret it.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Unfortunately, your paycheck, the politicians in charge, and the fact that they don't want to lock up mental defectives put you in the position to violate your oath.
I'm not blaming you personally. I'm blaming the department because if everyone in the department refused, it wouldn't be an issue. But unfortunately, not everyone will refuse.
spat
.950 JDJ
If you can't trust someone with a gun, you can't trust them to walk free.
*anyone* can get a gun as fast as they can a hit of crack (usually from the same people). There are no laws you can pass that will change that.
So, if you aren't locking up everyone you can't trust with a gun you are just fooling yourself.
Man, you guys would hate me right now (maybe).
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I hate your uniform, your precinct, your department, your government, ect. Not you personally unless you agree with and enjoy what they make you do.
Well this guy choked and menaced his wife so I think we’d be in agreement on this one.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
So was he arrested? No problem there if so. Afterwards when he serves his sentence including probation, he should have his guns back.
He menaced her with one of them. He won’t be getting them back.
M_F
.45 acp
Since he wasn't arrested he can still freely buy a long gun in NY, just might get denied the renewal of his rifle/shotgun permit to keep it in his NYC home because of this incident, for sure he would get denied a pistol license because of this incident.
What do you mean menaced with one of them? Was there another long gun confiscated not mentioned in the tweet?
Me and Will are talking about the incident I’m currently handling. Not the original one.
I'm not big on these laws neither, but sometimes they're needed.
Don't know if any of you remember or have seen it, but I made a thread several years back at the old place. An ex of mine was killed,same type of situation. Guns we're not removed and she ended up taking a 12 guage to the head.
I was with her parents when they showed up for a DNA test. I don't envy the police who have to break news like this to people.
Don't know if any of you remember or have seen it, but I made a thread several years back at the old place. An ex of mine was killed,same type of situation. Guns we're not removed and she ended up taking a 12 guage to the head.
I was with her parents when they showed up for a DNA test. I don't envy the police who have to break news like this to people.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
She should have taken measures to protect herself and he should have been locked up or put in a mental institution. Either or if the police knew about him.
That's the problem nowadays. People won't take measures to protect themselves thinking the police will or removing guns will.
Sorry. Removing guns wouldn't have helped. A knife could have been used. But if she carried a gun... There is no convincing me that removing guns from others makes the world safer.
The police should be going door to door telling people to be armed rather than taking them away.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Airborne may actually know some of the officers involved rather than the couple. Airborne has access to the actual report signed or not signed by the woman and the officers if he so chooses. He can’t give details without serious legal consequences.
Is that good enough to have an informed opinion?