2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
Wait what?! the boogey man is coming too~~~~~ oh now we are doomed hehehe
NYSAFE: ammunition background check implementation
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BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Boogeyman?
You mean like...
Andyman...
Andyman...
You mean like...
Andyman...
Andyman...
@thewheels
.308 Win
No ammo bgc needed if you receive gifts from family and friends out of state.
What can brown do for me?
What can brown do for me?
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
ammo sales in neighboring states are about to sky rocket
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
And indian reservations just like the cigarrets not to mention the black market.
STS556
.223 Rem
I have family in PA in the most western part of the Poconos. I am out there quite a few times a year. After the first ammo background database scare that didn't take off, I bought a bunch of ammo in PA. Not once was I asked for any type of ID. It's nice to see in the future that gun owning New Yorkers will be contributing very well to PA's economy.
I go and visit my mom in West Virginia quite a lot, I buy ammo on each visit.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Huh, speaking of the S.A.F.E. act (oh yeah, FUAC!), where can I get a new yard sign in opposition to this commie debacle? Mine has faded to un-readable. My windmill, my tilt.
Robin
Robin
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Out of nowhere ? Huh ? The second post was added because I failed to put it in the original. That bit of information was in the introduction paragraph, not the body of the text sent to me. All I posted originally was the body of the message. The last paragraph of my second post was MY OPINION, but I thought people were smart enough to figure that out.
So your post was ammo part of the law was soon to finally go into effect, and that will then mean limited amount per month and has to match owned guns?
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Wish i had a time machine.
Yes. As I understand it, the proposed implementation of the background check for ammunition purchases that was part of NYSAFE contains a limit on purchases ( "X" amount per month ) , and that the ammunition you purchase must fit a weapon YOU own. That last part only works if they know what you own. That means registration. Perhaps not make/model/serial number/caliber.....but I certainly would not put it past the Albany ruling class to require all that information. Even if there is no registration, your purchase history will eventually give them a good idea of what you have.
Do we have more than a text discussing this? An article somewhere maybe?
This reeks of the typical fear mongering email/text/post, etc. which we’ve seen plenty of times.
This reeks of the typical fear mongering email/text/post, etc. which we’ve seen plenty of times.
wizrd
6.5 Creedmoor
Last trip to a PA gun shop - just over the border a few miles south of Elmira - spent 2 -3 hours there - 20 - 25 people there from NY - just saying.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Nope. I just re-read and word searched the bill to reconfirm that both elements you suggest are NOT in the NY SAFE Act (S. 2230 / A. 2388).
I also checked that the frequently drafted restrictions you suggest have never passed either house.
Looks like @Airborneguy suspicions may be well founded.
Brooklyn morons Persaud and Simon started this ammo restriction horseshit years ago, got press for it, and have made no progress. These a$$holes keep pushing this crap and, fishing for continued whack job extremist support and some free publicity.
Brooklyn lawmakers seek to tightly restrict sales of ammo statewide | Brooklyn Daily Eagle
Redirect Notice
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.wash...rk-lawmakers-float-bill-to-restrict-gun-ammo/
Bozo
.45 acp
Numerous bills have been introduced in the recent past, and have stalled in committee for a distinct reason. You can't limit until there is a database in place to track purchases, unless a law was passed limiting to a single box per purchase, etc. I'm not sure that type of thing would survive a court challenge in the end...
vanderblack
.357 mag
I spoke to someone I know in the Governors office. He said he has not heard anything other than what went around in August (EXCLUSIVE: Stewart-Cousins calls out Cuomo over unfulfilled promise to create ammo database ) He did go on to say that he may not necessarily hear about gun legislation since he is involved in transportation but he will ask around.
repete
.338 Win Mag
How much room do you have? A few years back my wife and I were sitting in the dining room and noticed some cracks in the ceiling, my gun room is above the dining room! I now keep all my plinking/bulk ammo out in the garage.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
The room is not a problem. The safe and storage is over a double steel beam so we are good.
Is this something the town could answer and the ordinances dictate in terms of powders or ammo?
I would expect they have a limit for gasoline and gas and other things too otherwise a crazy person might decide to store 100K gallons of gasoline in
a tanker in a residential area.
repete
.338 Win Mag
I've seen them right there in Avon at the gun shop.
repete
.338 Win Mag
OH I wouldn't be asking anybody town fire dept. or police about that at all! You start asking questions and people take notice the rumor mill cranks up and your door gets kicked at 4:00 AM and your dogs shot!
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
A few months back I had to move my ammo from one room to another room. Holy crap I have a lot of ammo and that stuff gets heavy after a while. As I was almost finished moving it, for the first time in my life I thought that I have enough ammo.
Once I was finished moving all of my ammo I opened a beer and sat down to take a little break. And thought to myself.
I really should get more ammo... LOL
A friend of mine is a volunteer fireman. I asked him if there is any danger to them in such a case.
He said, no not really... He said that him and a few others on the dept stock up on ammo too.
Some people that do not live in a rural area and shoot a lot just don't get it and automatically assume the worst.
Which is asinine for a couple of reasons when ya stop and think about it...
That's like asking a roofer why does he have so many nails.
And why does he buy those nails in bulk if practical to save some money.
It's the same thing.
FUAC and FU to all of the other anti freedom turds in the NY legislature.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
This is the objective that bothers me the most. If you buy any "assault weapon ammo", "short barrel rifle ammo" or anything that fits in the new "double barrel magazine extended clips", you WILL BE FLAGGED. The next moniker will probably be "ghost gun ammunition". 30-06 and 12ga are fine, but only for a little while longer. Purchase anything NATO, and you will not experience the polite knock during dinner. They would rather let you take it home than decline the sale. A couple SWAT raids due to suspicious ammunition purchases, that turn up unregistered or illegal weapons, will perfectly further the agenda.
It is time to vote with the big reset button. Push all this shit over the edge now, and deal with it now so our children do not have to.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I am not planning in stocking up massively but I was courious because I dont really know.
Paranoia is taking the best of people. I have nothing to worry about plus I just searched and it looks that all my towns ordiances are posted online anyway.
STS556
.223 Rem
I did a search too. That is all that kept coming back in the results. It seem the database is nowhere near, if ever, going to happen.
vanderblack
.357 mag
I am friends with the local fire chief. He is a gun guy so I didn't feel funny asking him about ammo storage. He said, if they are aware of ammo stored in a building that is on fire, the department will let the building burn. Same goes if they find out that there are propane tanks, large amount of fireworks or other explosive materials in a building. In the event that they are engaged in extinguishing a fire and they hear shots going off from heat, they will pull back and wait until they no longer hear shots. He said, they are not overly worried about a box of ammo going off due to heat but, knowing that people store large amounts of ammo in ammo cans gives worry. If temps are hot enough to start to ignite ammo in cans, the ensuing explosion can be quite damaging. He referenced this:
Exploding Ammunition - Is this a problem?
Exploding Ammunition - Is this a problem?