NYSP say they have a zero tolerance policy if you break the CCIA and hochul says you need permit in hand by 9/1 to avoid the expanded training

[livingston]

The Catch-22 in New York's new carry law​

Since the passage of the anti-carry bills, virtually all issuing authorities have been operating under the premise that as long as someone applied for their permit before the new laws took effect on September 1st, their application would be processed under the state’s previous system; minus the “good cause” requirement that was shot down by SCOTUS in the Bruen case. I spoke earlier today with Niagara County Clerk Joseph Jastrzemski, who told me that the guidance his office received from stakeholders, including the Hochul administration and the state police, was that applications received through August 31st would be processed under the system, but starting September 1st the new rules would apply.

On Wednesday, however, Hochul announced that if an applicant had not received their license by September 1st, they would have to be processed under the new laws.

Over the past couple of weeks many counties have been overwhelmed by applicants rushing to submit their paperwork before September 1st, and there’s been plenty of news coverage about the massive increase in permit applications.

Meanwhile, @ErieCountyClerk Mickey Kearns said his office had about 500 applications just yesterday.

The Catch-22 in New York's new carry law

I know we’ve been writing a lot about what’s going on in New York over the past few days

bearingarms.com

 

[GOPerfect]

Unfortunately you are the exception and not the rule these days.

GD shame is what that is. For real. It is getting so bad, I am planning all of the escapes possible/

Gonna leave the job sooner than later. Taking a serious hit on my Pension due to the bullshit that I am witnessing....

 

[S&W Fan]

GD shame is what that is. For real. It is getting so bad, I am planning all of the escapes possible/

Gonna leave the job sooner than later. Taking a serious hit on my Pension due to the bullshit that I am witnessing....

A damn shame indeed. NY state is well on it’s way to becoming a police state, with LE officials like yourself and others out. Unfortunately the tone for the whole country for the near future has been cast by their president in last nights televised rant.

 

[Dr. Evil]

The leftists keep going on and on and on about how political right is a threat to democracy.

I would like an example from the left how little old me living my life not bothering anyone is a threat to their democracy. If you can give me an example I'd appreciate it. Also I'd ask you be very specific how I have directly led to what you say is a threat to your democracy. Thanks.

 

[soylentBlue]

I would like an example from the left how little old me living my life not bothering anyone is a threat to their democracy. If you can give me an example I'd appreciate it. Also I'd ask you be very specific how I have directly led to what you say is a threat to your democracy. Thanks.

Just remember that 'democracy' means 'mob rule' and the ability of the mob to simply vote that your things now belong to them, and you will understand how your dangerous ideas like freedom, responsibly, and accountably are a threat to 'democracy'

 

[Dr. Evil]

Just remember that 'democracy' means 'mob rule' and the ability of the mob to simply vote that your things now belong to them, and you will understand how your dangerous ideas like freedom, responsibly, and accountably are a threat to 'democracy'

That may be but I am asking for specific examples. Not from you obviously. I know we have some lefties on here. Thing is though you guys are going to have to type out their responses so I can see them.

 

[livingston]

I would like an example from the left how little old me living my life not bothering anyone is a threat to their democracy. If you can give me an example I'd appreciate it. Also I'd ask you be very specific how I have directly led to what you say is a threat to your democracy. Thanks.

You objected to the Covid treatments .. That alone is enough to threaten their plans ...

 

[Dr. Evil]

You objected to the Covid treatments .. That alone is enough to threaten their plans ...

C'mon man, don't do their work for them. I want to hear it from them.

 

[S&W Fan]

C'mon man, don't do their work for them. I want to hear it from them.

Don’t hold your breath.

 

[MothMan]

The governorship still wouldn't solve the problem. There is one-party majority rule in Albany.

This state is a lost cause.

So these laws will never go away will they?

 

[Deplorable Me]

A number of us have known for years the boner NY has been giving us. As of 1 September there are a lot of virgins about to figure it out for the first time.

Vote like your life depends upon it.

 

[Phazer]

So these laws will never go away will they?

Maybe they will.

But, they'll be around as long as the NFA or the Sullivan Act. After all, those are also unconstitutional.

 

[Blackjack]

Funny how the state police do the bidding of the same democrats that

They keep calling MAGA extremists and blaming the right for political violence. Yet it’s clearly them who are pushing for conflict. They’ve burned cities to the ground, shot a republican congressman at a softball game, have sent antifa out as their surrogate army.
The worst part is - their people get away with it all. The media conspires with their game. The judges and prosecutors look the other way.

Anybody that is so easily fooled by the MSM today simply does not demonstrate the brain power to own a firearm.

 

[Saltwater60]

GD shame is what that is. For real. It is getting so bad, I am planning all of the escapes possible/

Gonna leave the job sooner than later. Taking a serious hit on my Pension due to the bullshit that I am witnessing....

This was the plan with the defund the police and the BLM riots IMO to get guys like you to retire so they can plant their cronies on the job.

 

[cranberry]

The Catch-22 in New York's new carry law​

Since the passage of the anti-carry bills, virtually all issuing authorities have been operating under the premise that as long as someone applied for their permit before the new laws took effect on September 1st, their application would be processed under the state’s previous system; minus the “good cause” requirement that was shot down by SCOTUS in the Bruen case. I spoke earlier today with Niagara County Clerk Joseph Jastrzemski, who told me that the guidance his office received from stakeholders, including the Hochul administration and the state police, was that applications received through August 31st would be processed under the system, but starting September 1st the new rules would apply.

On Wednesday, however, Hochul announced that if an applicant had not received their license by September 1st, they would have to be processed under the new laws.

Over the past couple of weeks many counties have been overwhelmed by applicants rushing to submit their paperwork before September 1st, and there’s been plenty of news coverage about the massive increase in permit applications.

The Catch-22 in New York's new carry law

I know we’ve been writing a lot about what’s going on in New York over the past few days

bearingarms.com

I'm going to assume that when you go to renew you'll have to fill out the questionnaires .... social media , spouses info and anyone living in your house .

 

[Blackjack]

Key word in that article… battle ground state.
Everyone with our common interests nation wide needs to put their foot down and support gun owners in NY.

Nobody is safe in any state. The biggest pro gun states when I was growing up FL,TX,AZ are all slowly turning blue. If it can happen there it can happen anywhere.

And I’m not even mentioning federal laws by democrats that want to pack the SC to rewrite the constitution through liberally bias courts. That’s an entirely different battle, both start here.

 

[pjzwtl]

I have read of at least 2 prosecutions of people with 30 rd mags.

Clean stand alone charges or add on to other charges? Just curious.

 

[GOPerfect]

I'm going to assume that when you go to renew you'll have to fill out the questionnaires .... social media , spouses info and anyone living in your house .

I just went on the NYSP site and renewed my permit. Exactly the same as a few years ago. Only one question to answer. Now, I am good till 2027

 

[SomeSoldier]

Clean stand alone charges or add on to other charges? Just curious.

Dude was driving back from drill.

 

[Blackjack]

Dude was driving back from drill.

That was a while ago wasn’t it. Problem today is body cameras. LEO’s can’t risk their jobs. I wouldn’t, hands are tied.

 

[Pissed Off Patriot]

Repeating myself.

Again.

I'm repeating myself, but....

I TOLD YOU IT WAS GOING TO GET WORSE.

 

[Saltwater60]

O was told today by a friend of a friend that the state police are chomping at the bit to make an example out of someone to please the emperor. I was specifically told many of the new recruits have been liberals that have been hired to do their bidding.
I was also told NYS a has been putting $10 million in the budget under a line of database or something similar for the last 5 years or so. The higher brass has asked what it was without explanation. I think we know what that is for now. I think this has been discussed in the past on this board so I believe it. Of course it’s all rumors, but I would not be surprised.

 

[livingston]

O was told today by a friend of a friend that the state police are chomping at the bit to make an example out of someone to please the emperor. I was specifically told many of the new recruits have been liberals that have been hired to do their bidding.
I was also told NYS a has been putting $10 million in the budget under a line of database or something similar for the last 5 years or so. The higher brass has asked what it was without explanation. I think we know what that is for now. I think this has been discussed in the past on this board so I believe it. Of course it’s all rumors, but I would not be surprised.

Been emptying out the prisons for the last 5 years ... Getting ready for this also.... If the truth were known...

 

[ManualF150]

So I got a friend who just found out about all of this after I told them, and they were going to recert next year as that would be another 5 year marker for them.

I had to ask them... now that you are a felon under Hochul's eyes, how does it feel? They looked at me, and couldn't get on the NYSP recert page quick enough on their phone.......

How many other people do you all know that have a PP, and know they have no clue what is going on? How many pistol permit holders felons do you think haven't recerted because they don't know?

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

 

[Steal2B]

I just went on the NYSP site and renewed my permit. Exactly the same as a few years ago. Only one question to answer. Now, I am good till 2027

https://troopers.ny.gov/pistolrevolver-permit-recertification-faqs-82022

 

[GOPerfect]

"To help transition from the five-year recertification requirement to the new three-year requirement, anyone who had a concealed carry permit issued before September 1, 2022, will have until August 31, 2023, to recertify. In addition, those individuals who were issued a permit or recertified after September 1, 2020, will not become due to recertify under the new law before August 31, 2023"

https://troopers.ny.gov/pistolrevolver-permit-recertification-faqs-82022

I read that as well. When I got the email back from the State Police, they added that I was good on my recert until 2027. Either their web site is wrong, or the email.

 

[thughes]

https://troopers.ny.gov/pistolrevolver-permit-recertification-faqs-82022

Clear as mud:

FAQ's there say that if permit was issued before 2020, you have to recertify by August 2023 in order to comply with the switch from the old 5yr to the new 3 yr process. It also says if there's any confusion to go to the "recertification status" link and see what it tells you.

So.......

My permit was issued 2014 and I recertified like a good little sheep in 2019. According to new FAQ, I have to recertifiy by August 2023 to stay compliant with the cunt's new rules. BUT......if I go to the "recertification status" link in the FAQ's and enter my information, it says I don't have to recertify until 2024.

So what is it NYSP?

Bunch a fucking idiots.......can't even get this shit right on their own website. After using their own "recertification status" on-line tool, I used the "print" function on the NYSP website and printed a date-stamped (09/11/2022) version of the "recertification status" page saying I don't have to recertify until 2024 just in case they want to get salty at some point in the future......I would suggest others do the same.

 

[Steal2B]

I read that as well. When I got the email back from the State Police, they added that I was good on my recert until 2027. Either their web site is wrong, or the email.

A shooting buddy who was at this weekend's gunshow, overheard discussions between NYSP and some exhibitors saying that the code changes to reflect the new laws have not been rolled out yet and no reason was provided.

They called me tonight because of some issues being discussed at the show (They asked if I had any insights which I did not). There were apparently discussions about ammunition purchase expectations / interpretations to include reloaders and black powder.

Certainly sounded stupid to me since I have never heard of black powder enthusiasts or reloaders involved in mass shootings in my lifetime.

 

[Cooolone]

I won't buy a single round in NY again!

Fuck NY! Plain and simple!...