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Willjr75 said:
It's the only game in town in this state unless you want to play the AR game which is questionable legality-wise and just plain stupid with the neutering you have to do with it for serious use if you want something that'll take your Glock magazines . I'm just saying that it's a poor design and you are defending it like it's the bee's knees. It shoots good, I'll give it that but it has issues due to a poor design and you are defending it for some reason.

A modern firearm shouldn't be put together with torque screws that come loose with regular use and you shouldn't have to lose zero if you mounted an optic on the rail every time you take it apart to clean it properly.

I guess I'll just have to not clean it properly. But hey. Ruger hit a home run here.....:banghead:
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Willjr75 said:
Firearms shouldn't be hard to take apart. The AR platform can be disassembled with one hand to clean. No torque wrenches, no punches, nothing.

Back in the day I could understand. But
it's totally unacceptable to design something like that today.

It isn't a matter of laziness @nortatoga . It's a matter of field expedience. If I find myself out in the field for days at a time, I should be able to field strip my firearm to wipe it down if it gets wet or full of mud without losing zero and fumbling with tiny torque screws and wrenches.

Even the 80 year old SKS could be field stripped without tools.
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Did you buy this thinking it was a combat rifle that you would find yourself in the field for days at a time? If you keep it well maintained when you are home, you couldn't carry enough ammo to get it to foul from shooting it to much! And to say it is a poor design well it is really just a 9mm 10/22 the most popular rimfire if not the most popular rifle of all time! Those photo's I posted above I don't think that rifle was ever taken apart before I bought it the barrel was clean, but I was buying it because it was pre-94 (when that meant something) for a built that I wanted to do. (AR type 10/22)

So let me ask you this did you have much or any experience with firearms before you went into the Service? Since the only firearms you seem to like are of that type!
 
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BTW I handled an EP9. Very chintzy feeling.
I am confident that I could snap the buffer tube from the receiver with my bare hands. In my opinion a range toy, nothing more.
 
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Edwardteach72 said:
There are so many better 9mm "pistols" on the market
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At what cost though? The EP9s appeal is that its cheap. However if a PCC on the cheap is what you are after a HighPoint carbine is likely to serve you better.
What I would really like is if somone made something similar to a KelTec Sub 2000 only good. Broadly similar construction but side folding so mounted optics can stay put atop the receiver, and a last shot bolt hold open. And bump up the price to accommodate some kind of delayed blowback operation to keep the bolt light and the reciprocating mass down, thus reducing the recoil. After watching Ian's in depth video of the FAMAS I haven't the slightest ideas why its clever lever delayed blowback system hasn't been used elsewhere.
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Podmonkey said:
At what cost though? The EP9s appeal is that its cheap. However if a PCC on the cheap is what you are after a HighPoint carbine is likely to serve you better.
What I would really like is if somone made something similar to a KelTec Sub 2000 only good. Broadly similar construction but side folding so mounted optics can stay put atop the receiver, and a last shot bolt hold open. And bump up the price to accommodate some kind of delayed blowback operation to keep the bolt light and the reciprocating mass down, thus reducing the recoil. After watching Ian's in depth video of the FAMAS I haven't the slightest ideas why its clever lever delayed blowback system hasn't been used elsewhere.
................. Clever lever? HA! I made a funny!!
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Didnt read all this, will in a moment. But how cheap are we talking, what are these things going for?
 
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