I think getting along and cooperating with Russia in areas of mutual concern is far preferable to being hostile and trying to undermine each other.
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Russia/US Relations Question
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I think getting along and cooperating with Russia in areas of mutual concern is far preferable to being hostile and trying to undermine each other.
He runs his country like the mafia runs New Jersey, I doubt he has any "love" for his countrymen at all.
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Other factors -
Qatar paid Hillary a gob of cash for a pipeline through Syria. Hillary doesn't care about Russia; she cares about Assad not wanting that pipeline, hence all the lies about what's been happening in Syria for almost a decade.
Russia, meanwhile, simply does not want that pipeline - hence they want Assad to stay put. That's pretty much Hillary's beef - she cared nothing about Russians until the war in Syria went against her way.
Qatar paid Hillary a gob of cash for a pipeline through Syria. Hillary doesn't care about Russia; she cares about Assad not wanting that pipeline, hence all the lies about what's been happening in Syria for almost a decade.
Russia, meanwhile, simply does not want that pipeline - hence they want Assad to stay put. That's pretty much Hillary's beef - she cared nothing about Russians until the war in Syria went against her way.
Brought to the very threshold of Armageddon over a fucking pipeline? How pathetic
It sounds like a bad movie plot. Except, it's real.
swilliams
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Well that would explain a lot. Of course Russia wouldn't want that pipeline. Now I have to go read up on Qatar. This is why I usually, purposely, remain ignorant of foreign politics. I just got pulled into this by the insistence of people these last few weeks that Russia is the most evil empire that exists right now. Once too many people tell me something, but it doesn't seem obvious, I find myself wondering if they're not full of shit, since most people only see what's obvious. Does that make sense?
If I'm not mistaken the Clinton's recently bought real estate in either Dubai or Qatar I can't remember oh and they put a few millions into their bank over there too. Yea...... Nothing to see move along
Edit.
Just found these
https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN12Z2SL?client=ms-android-verizon
Clinton Foundation ‘funded by same money as Isis’, says Julian Assange
Hillary Clintons Sudden Move Of $1.8 Billion To Qatar Central Bank Stuns Financial World. Not sure how accurate this is but wouldn't surprise me if it's more true than not
eagleridge357
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Who is the only nation that has used large strategic nuclear weapons against another nation in war?
Which nation, USA or Russia has initiated the most military actions and wars of aggression against a non-aggressor nation?
Which nation has waged non-defensive war far from it's borders continuously and predictably against non-aggressor nations?
How many wars or military actions has Russia initiated against nations which did not have some complex and direct relational status with Russia in a political/cultural/historical way?
Which nation Russia or USA has taken the most direct and militarily intelligent steps to resist and defeat ISIS in Syria and elsewhere?
How many times did the USA give it's promise to not expand NATO into eastern Europe , and how many times did the USA break that promise?
How many times did Russia warn the USA that NATO expansion into eastern Europe is the ONLY reason that Russia deems USA an existential threat?
How many times and for how many years and in how many ways has USA attempted to portray Russia as the BIG THREAT to world peace, all the while appealing to emotions and providing no intelligent evidence or political reasons?
How many times will the USA use Russia as a scapegoat for the crookedness and sheer immorality that has come to define the administration of USA national foreign policy and foreign corporate policy since WW2?
How many wars does the world need in order to realize that wars do not produce any winners, only destruction, pain and more future hostile enemies?
How many think that Putin and Trump are not the problem here? The problem is those who orchestrate the policies that serve to continue and perpetuate the evil and destructive thinking that tears nations apart. The military/industrial complex is only a small part of the problem. The M/I complex is the part which goes into action when the truly evil decisions to make war are created by those who profit from it, whether that profit takes the form of wealth or sheer power.
Now ask whether it is reasonable for USA and Russia to work towards a productive solution, or to continue the insanity of who can win the game of power and control.
Which nation, USA or Russia has initiated the most military actions and wars of aggression against a non-aggressor nation?
Which nation has waged non-defensive war far from it's borders continuously and predictably against non-aggressor nations?
How many wars or military actions has Russia initiated against nations which did not have some complex and direct relational status with Russia in a political/cultural/historical way?
Which nation Russia or USA has taken the most direct and militarily intelligent steps to resist and defeat ISIS in Syria and elsewhere?
How many times did the USA give it's promise to not expand NATO into eastern Europe , and how many times did the USA break that promise?
How many times did Russia warn the USA that NATO expansion into eastern Europe is the ONLY reason that Russia deems USA an existential threat?
How many times and for how many years and in how many ways has USA attempted to portray Russia as the BIG THREAT to world peace, all the while appealing to emotions and providing no intelligent evidence or political reasons?
How many times will the USA use Russia as a scapegoat for the crookedness and sheer immorality that has come to define the administration of USA national foreign policy and foreign corporate policy since WW2?
How many wars does the world need in order to realize that wars do not produce any winners, only destruction, pain and more future hostile enemies?
How many think that Putin and Trump are not the problem here? The problem is those who orchestrate the policies that serve to continue and perpetuate the evil and destructive thinking that tears nations apart. The military/industrial complex is only a small part of the problem. The M/I complex is the part which goes into action when the truly evil decisions to make war are created by those who profit from it, whether that profit takes the form of wealth or sheer power.
Now ask whether it is reasonable for USA and Russia to work towards a productive solution, or to continue the insanity of who can win the game of power and control.