NEVER put the booger hook on the bang switch until you are ready for shooting and you will NEVER have a ND
SERPA Rediscovered
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Awe that's cute..
I'm positive you watched the video
Millions of people figured out how to do it right. Sorry you couldn't get it. Train more.
Oh wait wait... what is that highlighted say? But that could never happen on a draw.. just reholstering
You are lost and confused. The GUN was slightly misaligned to the HOLSTER upon re-holster. The finger remained straight and indexed properly. Re-holstering has nothing to do with the SERPA lock. Reading comprehension goes a long way.
Not talking about the finger here. Talking about how under speed and pressure you fucked up something as simple as reholstering.. but like you said you could never mess up the draw and finger placement
Yep, I did. I watched the shooter move his finger inside the trigger guard prior to putting the gun on target. He needs to maintain a bit of self control and discipline with his body parts.
spat
.950 JDJ
Then why do you even need to keep it pointed in a safe direction ? I mean, it's not going to go of on it's own, and if your trigger discipline is *perfect* then it doesn't matter if you sweep people at the range all the time right ?
If your trigger discipline is faultless, then you can simplify the 4 basic safety rules down to 2, since the others are redundant.
Personally, I recognize that nobody's perfect, and when lives are literally on the line, I'd like more than one layer of safety, thanks.
Yup discipline. Not body mechanics
I wouldnt even try if I was you dude it's not worth your time.. they have no clue what they are talking about or how they are missing the design flaw.. it's a shame that people spend as little as 40 bucks and then have to dig in and justify garbage
spat
.950 JDJ
Just saying that the arrogance to think you will never make a mistake is almost as dangerous as ignorance. Ignorance is also a lot easier to fix.
Everyone makes mistakes. Even on things that you have practiced *far* more than your draw.
Ever misstep and trip a little while walking ? How many steps have you taken in your life, millions ? Drawing is a more complex motion than a step, and I guarantee the average 6 year old has more "practice" walking than even Jerry Miculek has drawing a handgun.
Believing your infallible is foolish, relying on that infallibility for safety is dangerous.
Imagine being ignorant like you mentioned.. but in the same thread mention how you fumbled atleast twice with reholstering.. but could never mess up a draw
Elwood
.223 Rem
Who’s claiming perfection? Certainly not me, can you cite the post or are you just pulling argumentative shit out of your ass again?
Elwood
.223 Rem
Imagine blaming a hunk of kydex for a lack of trigger discipline and arguing it for 5 pages
Imagine not knowing what a design flaw is
Elwood
.223 Rem
No flaw in the design, it does what it’s supposed to do, again if you can’t keep your finger out of the trigger guard that’s your problem not Blackhawks
Do flaw in the design and yet the way it's designed facilitates the finger in a way that can cause it to go inside the trigger guard and possible ND..
imagine being so stupid that you still say thats not a design flawA draw is a one time straight action. A rapid cycle over and over has nothing to do with it. Take any holster and try to insert a weapon as fast as you can in a cycle of about 50 times. You too will slightly miss the opening a time or 2. You are trying to compare things that have no relation.
Why would I try and reholster as fast as possible. Imagine thinking that's a thing. Oh wait you think serpa holsters are good holsters so I'm not suprised you think speed reholstering is a thing
spat
.950 JDJ
Your entire claim is based on your perfect trigger discipline.
Lets say that the SERPA triples your chance of making a trigger discipline mistake while drawing compared to the alternatives. Given it's history and the opinion of professional instructors I think this is quite a conservative estimate.
You are saying that your chance is 0, so 3x 0 is still 0 and it's not a problem.
The other argument is that if it's not absolutely 0, then 3x whatever your personal failure rate on draw stroke trigger discipline is, it will result in 3 times the chance of an ND.
So, lets say you make a trigger discipline fault on one in 10,000 draws with a regular holster that would be one in 3333 on the SERPA. Even if you say "I'm better than that", OK, you're one in 100,000. Well that's one mistake in 33,333 with the SERPA.
Now lets say a trigger discipline fault has a 1 in 100 chance of leading to an ND.
Even if it's one in a million, and odds are you will never make a mistake in your whole life, the odds that you will are *still* much higher with the SERPA.
So, the only time the SERPA isn't less safe than the alternative is if it's either not more likely to cause the mistake (which we can argue, but consensus is that it is) or you are absolutely perfect.
You can argue that the increased risk is low enough and you are willing to take it, etc, and that is your right. If I go to the range and see someone else is drawing from one I'll give them a wide berth (at least).
I've never tried the SERPA (and based on it's reputation alone I never will).
Your familiarity with the product obviously makes you far more qualified to judge it than I am, but to simply write off all the concerns as "well, I just won't make that mistake" is a very dangerous mindset to have.
My finger is physically unable to bend and press the button with my fingertip while I have a grip on the firearm. See pic 1 from previous post. You just can’t get it. Place your finger on a flat surface and try to bend it. A physical impossibility.
Yup physical impossibility. And yet wait I saw it happen on that video of that guy.. oh wait he must have different physics
@Edwardteach72 your smiley faces do not make facts not so.
Nope. Just not using the proper grip or has not used the holster per the instructions. You are to use the pad of a straight finger NOT a fingertip.
And your rambling in about putting a finger on a counter top or something doesnt mean shit
The video was taken in slow motion. The actual action was made repeatedly at the fastest speed possible. The finger never moves from its proper extended position and it always properly indexed as per basic firearm rules.
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Wow look at that not on a belt not an actual draw. And man no need for slow motion camera cause you were going slow enough to make sure you didnt mess up. Yup this is the video I expected you to post.
Deff not on the range going full speed under stress ....
Hahahahahhahahaha. Fail
The only fail is you. It’s slow motion ya dummy. Exactly as you asked. Did you expect slow motion to be.. fast? The real life action was made at the highest speed possible. That is why you can see a slight misalignment reholstering twice. If it was slow and smooth it wouldn’t ever had happened. It not being on a belt only makes it more difficult because it’s not anchored. The holster can move when held in my hand where it cannot mounted in a belt. You have lost the argument and all the smiley faces and “hahahahah”’s in the world won’t change that. Move along now.