No idea.
Shooter injures at least 18 at Walmart in El Paso - 08/03/19
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No idea.
E the massive
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Supposedly it's based off credit history and criminal history and who you are affiliated or linked to. Yeah no shit.
Celt
.338 Win Mag
I think that when done obsessively, just like cell phones, it leads to anti social behavior. They are not the cause, but they have contributed to the social decay we are seeing. Too many parents use electronic devices as babysitters. People are losing effective communication skills because too much social interaction is being done over a pair of head phones, or the keyboard.
Not that i want any govt interference, its up tobparents to regulate this stuff.
And the same people said the same thing when news papers came out
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Well good on you for having that. Some of us aren't so lucky so I'd have to disagree with carry laws being so great here once you get your permit. Maybe once you get lucky and get the right judge issuing your permit, but definitely not in an equal or broad sense. Granted, there is nothing in the law that states violation of your "restrictions" is a crime. It's not a crime. IDK, the end result is probably the same here in this shit hole. You use your gun defensively and even if you are judged as justified you'd probably still lose your permit. *****THAT IS SUPPOSITION not fact mind you. I'm not saying that as fact so please don't take it as fact, I am being a cynic here.
Yes restricted is bull shit but I'm pretty sure he was talking about an unrestricted license
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
This is my point though. Not everyone is able to get restrictions lifted in this state, despite going through all the bs to get your permit. Some judges just don't do it unless you have "good cause". Also, I am NOT looking to turn this thread into a permit argument. I'm just saying.
No I completely agree with you.
If I'm at Walmart (first off I'm definitely Carrying) and I'm with my family and there is an active shooter, I'm not looking to play hero my only priority is to protect my family to get out of the store ASAP.
If I'm by myself I may be more courageous but even then I may just go to escape and only engage if i have no choice.
It absolutely sucks to say but if I try to do a good deed and risk my life for strangers, it's more likely than not that I will end up dead (especially if he has a rifle and full kit while I have a subcompact pistol), injured for life, sued, financially affected for life or in jail. It's not worth it. If anything goes wrong at all it's my ass and my family's livlihood on the line.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
We have fundamental cultural problems, not something as simple as a "drugs" or "social media" or anything like that.
If you fix the cultural problem the rest of the problems will go away.
There is no quick fix for our cultural problems, it will take generations to fix what the left has done, that or some major shift like a serious long term collapse like the great depression.
The root of the cultural problem is entitlement. People think they are owed something and get pissed off when they don't get it. They feel wronged and believe they have a right to revenge.
Really, you aren't entitled to anything unless you earned it. The only rights you have are rights to be left alone.
The left has been telling people that they are owed health care, education, a wage, and anything else they think will get them votes. Well, we all know it's all lies.
Inevitably society fails to deliver on all these promises and people feel cheated. That is the root of our ills.
The solution is to stop promising people anything besides basic freedoms.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
If violent video games play a part, then actual acting and playing cowboys and Indians or cops and robbers is worse since you are actually acting the part of killing.
Yet we all turned out fine.
Yet we all turned out fine.
I was half tempted to write this exact same thing
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Another scumbag murderer that decided to travel practically across the state too be noticed FUCK this piece of excrement he should be hung by Monday in the town square FUCK all these Motherfuckers and FUCK all who want to infringe our rights just because of scumbags like these Motherfuckers 
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Report: Far-Left Groups Plan ‘Siege’ On El Paso, Texas, To Push ‘Border Resistance’
Ottawa Bureau Chief July 30, 2019
Report: Far-Left Groups Plan ‘Siege’ On El Paso, Texas, To Push ‘Border Resistance’
Correction: While various antifa-sympathetic groups have promoted and encouraged this event, there is insufficient evidence to say antifa is “planning” or involved in the event. That language has been removed and clarified.
A far-left movement is reportedly planning a “siege” of El Paso, Texas, in an attempt to raise awareness of alleged abuses at the U.S.-Mexico border. Their promotion poster features explicit depictions of violence, including what appears to be an ICE officer lying dead on the ground, riddled with arrows.
Ottawa Bureau Chief July 30, 2019
Report: Far-Left Groups Plan ‘Siege’ On El Paso, Texas, To Push ‘Border Resistance’
Correction: While various antifa-sympathetic groups have promoted and encouraged this event, there is insufficient evidence to say antifa is “planning” or involved in the event. That language has been removed and clarified.
A far-left movement is reportedly planning a “siege” of El Paso, Texas, in an attempt to raise awareness of alleged abuses at the U.S.-Mexico border. Their promotion poster features explicit depictions of violence, including what appears to be an ICE officer lying dead on the ground, riddled with arrows.
ECU Pirates
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Loners who sit in front of a computer all day and night seem to be more likely to shoot it a school or mall. Social media has been linked to depression. It’s not good for ones mental health to never actually interact with others.
M_F
.45 acp
EXACTLY, I'm positive there was at least one or two people legally carrying in that Walmart, but chose to take care of their loved ones first and get the hell out. I don't blame them, chances are they had no idea where the shots where coming from, and there is always the chance of mistakenly getting killed by the responding LEO's. Just as an example in the Umpqua Community College shooting in Oregon there was one student that was legally carrying concealed, he was in a different building and his classroom on lockdown. Instead of leaving his classroom to look for the gunman he chose to stay with his classmates and defend them IF the gunman came through, which was the smart decision IMO.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
Want me to find ten other studies that say the opposite? I’m sure I could. Loners who play any game or sit on social media all day and night are more likely to shoot people randomly than the all state quarterback. Is social media linked to depression?
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo voiced his outrage over the shooting too, but also issued a damning indictment of Washington and the Trump administration for failing to take a hard-line stance on gun-control and against the NRA.
'My heart breaks for the victims of the horrific shooting in El Paso earlier today,' Cuomo began.
'While President Trump cowardly kowtows to the NRA, the gun violence epidemic is tearing apart our nation and people are dying.
'Thoughts and prayers will not stop this madness. In New York, we stand up to the NRA. We stand up for the safety of children. We stand up for sanity.
'It's past time leaders in Washington did the same. Until they do, these senseless murders will continue,' Cuomo added.
'My heart breaks for the victims of the horrific shooting in El Paso earlier today,' Cuomo began.
'While President Trump cowardly kowtows to the NRA, the gun violence epidemic is tearing apart our nation and people are dying.
'Thoughts and prayers will not stop this madness. In New York, we stand up to the NRA. We stand up for the safety of children. We stand up for sanity.
'It's past time leaders in Washington did the same. Until they do, these senseless murders will continue,' Cuomo added.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
the pot calling the kettle black
Them being a loner and social outcast being related. Playing video games didnt make them violent.
Correlation does not imply causation
Correlation does not imply causation
Two words that should never be mentioned together, ever - the very definition of an oxymoron.
Can't keep his yap shut, ever. "Look at me, look at me! I'm a badass!"
ECU Pirates
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I said sitting in front of a computer non stop. Social media has been linked to mental health issues. Many studies also say games can cause aggression. What’s causing these lunatics to do this?
So where are the 10 links to the studies
What's causing lunatics to do things?????
There is 6 billion people, here is a little hard pill to swallow.... some people are just bad people.... its statistics
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I would do the same. My family and self comes first. If alone, the same. My wife depends on me.
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ECU Pirates
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I’m going to put a few links up. I didn’t read these like you didn’t read the links you posted.
Study confirms link between violent video games and physical aggression
Yes, Violent Video Games Trigger Aggression, but Debate Lingers
Children’s Violent Video Game Play Associated with Increased Physical Aggressive BehaviorUntitled
Like I said there are studies that say whatever side you want to argue for.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I grew up in an age that did both. Both Cowboys and Indians, cops and robbers, and Nintendo and Sega Genesis. My age group should be totally fucked up if any of that were true. Grew up in the 80’s.
I used to run around with realistic water guns and cap guns too before they became taboo.
I used to run around with realistic water guns and cap guns too before they became taboo.
I didn't read mine?
ECU Pirates
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No shit. People are bad... there’s a thought out reply. Why are mass shootings increasing?