So Trump Killed Top Iranian Generals & 2 Militia Leaders

[holdover]

Without a doubt Iran will retaliate in some fashion, But it will be a measured calculated response on her own terms .I don't believe either side wants a war . I do believe the US wants a regime change and has been trying for a long time , but a war would be ugly.Ever take a look at a map of Iran? the terrain is tough . It would bring the countries of Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Iran under one banner with a common enemy , pretty much unifying the whole Mideast against the US .I don't think either side is going to do anything stupid right now.

 

[Podmonkey]

What he said. We gain nothing from our presence in the Middle East. We provide most of our own oil and get most of the balance from Canada, the Middle East is running dry, they have nothing we need. Just pull out of there, leave them to the Russians if they want.

 

[SmallGameAddict]

Without a doubt Iran will retaliate in some fashion, But it will be a measured calculated response on her own terms .I don't believe either side wants a war . I do believe the US wants a regime change and has been trying for a long time , but a war would be ugly.Ever take a look at a map of Iran? the terrain is tough . It would bring the countries of Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Iran under one banner with a common enemy , pretty much unifying the whole Mideast against the US .I don't think either side is going to do anything stupid right now.

The risks outweigh any potential benefits

 

[Toecutter]

Its not like this guy was eating ice cream with his granddaughter and we dropped a jdam on him. He organized an attack on a US Embassy , that is an attack on our country. Go look at the photos , that embassy is fucked up and he would have killed everyone inside it. We dont know what else was planned. Our intel saw a chance to remove him and we did.

Iran has been poking the bear for some time and we had shown restraint. Regardless if we should be there or not an attack on an embassy cant be ignored. Ive been hearing threats from Iran my entire life ,this is what they do , they will never be at peace they will always look for conflict. The people of that region has been causing trouble on this planet since the beginning of recorded history. They wont stop just because we leave. They need do be kept on a leash and kicked like a dog to keep them in line , this is the only language they understand.

 

[Mosinitis]

It seems Russia has the smartest policy of being on good terms with everyone in the region, less AlQaida and ISIS tied groups. Thus they have the most influence. Our policy is based on being world's inquisition who is fighting THE EVIL. We all know the legacy of inquisition.

 

[Jmac00]

ok, lets back up a second.

First, whether we wack this clown or not, Iran is NOT going to stop terror attacks around the world. Islam demands they either enslave Infidels or they kill us, period. This guy was the head of a Hydra. When you cut one head off a hydra, one will grow back. The next one maybe a little smarter or more cautious. But make no mistake, this "war' isn't about geography. it's about forcing ones beliefs on a world that regards it to be a violent political/militarist doctrine. the only way to stop a violent regime, is with overwhelming violence. Pres. Trump just sent a loud and very clear message to the WORLD, not just Iran, the United States will no longer tolerate this behavior.

second, why was the top general of Iran, in Iraq? Im sure he was there just having tea with his homies. He left the safety of his homeland to try and stir up trouble, or more correctly, to organize the trouble against American interests. He choose poorly.

Third. I and many American's are tired of a protracted, long term war. However, no one can afford to have a rogue, terrorist country roaming freely around the world unabated. The world allowed millions of Muslims to enter their countries with little to no resistance in the name of "tolerance". Many countries in Europe are now regretting that decision and are actively trying to rectify it, by shipping Muslims back to where the came. Even on our own soil, Muslim gangs are attacking innocent American because WE are infidels. the same is happening in Europe.

This 'conflict' has been going on for 1400 years, unless Muslims change their policies, or "peaceful Muslims" start to police their own political/Militarist doctrine, this shit is NEVER going to stop, ever. UNLESS someone with a spine stands up and says, NO MORE, and contains the terrorist to one small plot of land in a desert

 

[Robin]

Without a doubt Iran will retaliate in some fashion, But it will be a measured calculated response on her own terms .I don't believe either side wants a war . I do believe the US wants a regime change and has been trying for a long time , but a war would be ugly.Ever take a look at a map of Iran? the terrain is tough . It would bring the countries of Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Iran under one banner with a common enemy , pretty much unifying the whole Mideast against the US .I don't think either side is going to do anything stupid right now.

I don't agree with this at all. A surgical strike in their economic, refineries, infrastructure would destabilize them enough where their own population would do seventy percent of the heavy lifting. One banner? I doubt it. The Sunni's, Christian's, Jew's, Bahai's, Hindu's and a host of other sect's and sub-sects Far, Far outnumber the Iranian's and their cohorts in shia. It wouldn't take much for them to get on board for a shot at the main source terror and agitation in the region.
Robin

 

[SmallGameAddict]

I don't agree with this at all. A surgical strike in their economic, refineries, infrastructure would destabilize them enough where their own population would do seventy percent of the heavy lifting. One banner? I doubt it. The Sunni's, Christian's, Jew's, Bahai's, Hindu's and a host of other sect's and sub-sects Far, Far outnumber the Iranian's and their cohorts in shia. It wouldn't take much for them to get on board for a shot at the main source terror and agitation in the region.
Robin

I think you both make valid points.

An all out war, with other than support troops on the ground? Highly doubtful. The return on investment just isn't there

Destabilization? Highly likely. Minimum risk, minimum casualties, and the people in Iran can revolt against a vulnerable government.

Send out your pesky little boats to harass US Navy ships, and others? Ok, like yellow jackets at a picnic.

Attack the embassy? With this President? If you weren't expecting to pay a price for that, you are foolhardy indeed.

 

[Jmac00]

one other point: anyone else notice, Iraq's police nor it's military didn't seem to do anything to abates or disrupt these "protesters"

 

[Mr. terzmo]

I will respond with an almost echo.

I have stated that him being dead is a good thing. The way it occurred, I am fine with that. My point to the majority of my posts in this thread are in referance to how some are so happy, they are glad and elated. All ggo, but for all those that are so tickled pink about it; just curious how many would volunteer to be there when the terror begins to strike our homeland. Who will be there standing in line, being first in line to take that hit?

There are always the "cheer leaders" who have never served and are on the side of "We can eliminate them easily" . They don't know what it's like to lose a friend or loved one. I challenge their opinion if their Son or Daughter would have to go and do it easily. My Dad and I are vets, both served in and during a war and I'm glad My Son didn't go or My Grandson. War of any size sucks and one life lost is one too many.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

It could go tit for tat until it escalates and it's no longer tit for tat. While I am tired of all the things we've seen Iran do, say and seemingly get away with, I know if it came to an actual war, they would be toast. I hold no illusions though, about something like that being without severe damage to us. War with Iran would be very very bad.

You know, it occured to me recently, that we never hear anything more about the attack on the Saudi oil fields. Did Saudi Arabia respond? Did they do anything? I don't recall they did. Is it possible this whole thing was set up by the saudi's to get us to retaliate against Iran?

 

[BuffNiag]

Trump vows to hit 52 Iranian targets if Iran retaliates after drone strike

U.S. President Donald Trump on Saturday threatened to hit 52 Iranian sites "very hard" if Iran attacks Americans or U.S. assets after a drone strike that killed Iranian military commander Qassem Soleimani and an Iraqi militia leader, as tens of thousands of people marched in Iraq to mourn their...

www.reuters.com

Time to leave that s!thole. Now.

 

[Mosinitis]

one other point: anyone else notice, Iraq's police nor it's military didn't seem to do anything to abates or disrupt these "protesters"

This is because no one likes us there. No one likes outsiders coming in and bossing around.

 

[stokes]

The Iraqi forces/police allowed the protesters to access the embassy compound.They are obviously a closer ally of Iran than us.Fuck them,let their shithole collapse again and let the shit land where it may.We dont need their oil anymore,just stick with allies who have proven they are loyal to us,like Israel and leave Iraq,Syria,Iran and Saudi's etc to fend for themselves or let Russia and/or China deal with them.We dont need another ground war,but we can use many cruise missiles and drones to cripple everybody and back the fuck away,giving support to only our staunchest allies.

 

[Bananabandit]

Is this why my gas spiked 20 cents overnight?

 

[stokes]

Is this why my gas spiked 20 cents overnight?

Yes it is

 

[Bananabandit]

Yes it is

Oh now they gon and pissed me off!

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Is this why my gas spiked 20 cents overnight?

Seems no change in the Buffalo NY area

 

[SmallGameAddict]

Up 5 cents a gallon at the place up the road

 

[Karpteach]

 

[holdover]

I don't agree with this at all. A surgical strike in their economic, refineries, infrastructure would destabilize them enough where their own population would do seventy percent of the heavy lifting. One banner? I doubt it. The Sunni's, Christian's, Jew's, Bahai's, Hindu's and a host of other sect's and sub-sects Far, Far outnumber the Iranian's and their cohorts in shia. It wouldn't take much for them to get on board for a shot at the main source terror and agitation in the region.
Robin

A surgical strike on their refineries would cripple them. without a doubt .But that is an act of war, all cards are now in play. I don't think either side wants that . Their pro US population would flip sides as soon as the bombings began . They wont cheer a country that's actively bombing them and their countrymen. No, it might not unite the Sunnis , but it will solidify the Shia's across the whole Mideast with a common enemy. The Afghans are hardly going to side with the US, A coalition of Shias would not be difficult to put together under one flag .

And how dumb are the Sunnis going to be? They are the most radical anti western group out there, at some point it's better to put your differences aside for amoment and handle the greater threat. The one thing they all have in common is that the US is thier enemy. Sooner or later they will realize they are all on the same side anyways.

 

[stokes]

The gas spike is typical bullshit.I saw yesterday on the news that the price of crude went up.Everytime this happens the rag heads at the pump immediately raise the price per gallon,even tho they are selling you gas they bought at the lower price.

 

[SmallGameAddict]

Fake news here. Gas Buddy has incorrect info. Just drove up to the store for a sixer. Gas price unchanged.

 

[Curmudgeon]

US tried to force regime change in Iran by supporting a coup in 1953. They've been pissed at us ever since. Rightly so IMO.

This is about oil. Always has been. Just saw an article that Iran just discovered a new oil field with some 80+ bn barrels of oil.

All I know is the closer we get to war, the less I trust what the government is telling me.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

".But that is an act of war, all cards are now in play "

I would think one way or another, We are at war with Iran be it physical or electrical The ball is in their court. They do have the capability to blacken our eye, but the retaliation would cripple them.

 

[Jmac00]

bombs away

 

[holdover]

".But that is an act of war, all cards are now in play "

I would think one way or another, We are at war with Iran be it physical or electrical The ball is in their court. They do have the capability to blacken our eye, but the retaliation would cripple them.

It would be pretty ugly, especially for them . but then were stuck trying to police Iraq and Iran with a thin military and a lot of expense.
That's what happened to Rome .

 

[GOPerfect]

There are always the "cheer leaders" who have never served and are on the side of "We can eliminate them easily" . They don't know what it's like to lose a friend or loved one. I challenge their opinion if their Son or Daughter would have to go and do it easily. My Dad and I are vets, both served in and during a war and I'm glad My Son didn't go or My Grandson. War of any size sucks and one life lost is one too many.

This here was my entire point. Even on the news I hear them all cheering.

I watch hannity last night and he was talking about all the brave sons and daughters, blah, blah, blah, blah.... Wonder if any of his sons and daughters are going to step in harms way.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

One of the problems is Iran has infiltrated Iraq armed forces and the Iraqi's demonstrated against ISIS, they would rather run than fight. IF Iran was decimated militarilly, the Iraqi's would still not fight to defend Iraq

 

[cgrutt]

The gas spike is typical bullshit.I saw yesterday on the news that the price of crude went up.Everytime this happens the rag heads at the pump immediately raise the price per gallon,even tho they are selling you gas they bought at the lower price.

No different than selling your home at current market value than price you paid for it IMO.