Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

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ManualF150 said:
Say for instance if Zeldin won and replaced Hochul, is there a possibility he can reverse what Hochul did without all this court nonsense? Basically the overnight nonsense that Hochul did, but in reverse? I would much prefer that because it does save taxpayer monies and folks' time.

I know a pipe dream...
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Not directly, but this video has a good possible way Zeldin, if elected governor, can negate it through pardons and clemency:

 
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CaliberPlus said:
I think we will see more lawsuits. There is much more that needs to be challenged and if dominoes start to go it should help....I hope.

I wondered if something could be challenged due to the circumstances the CCIA was passed, emergency (that wasn't) and passed under the guise of rather than the minimum time required by state constitution, 72 hours. That would leave the ten big piles of crap passed in June.
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Nope. They tried that with the SAFE act. It didn’t work .
 
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Phazer said:
I do not like the training requirement and the cost attached to exercising a right. However, the logic employed was that (paraphrase): "The militia had to spend money to be armed and to train. So, the cost is not completely unacceptable." That said, were people required to spend a significant sum of money every three years in order to remain in the civilian militia?
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we the people do our Militia Training every damn year and pay for it ourselves ... its called Deer Hunting Season .. all ages Muster and shoot ...
 
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MothMan said:
Training costs will be set by trainers / training organizations. Understanding reasonable expenses, ie; range fees. Will they support the 2A in NYS by keeping costs low or try to separate us from our pocketbooks?

I do not agree with required “training” beyond handgun safety course of 2 to 4 hrs similar to hunter safety.
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Local guy by me is charging $575 so?? I feel that’s a bit too much.
 
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even thou its still a damn poll tax .. i would be ok with this for the time being ...

15 per hour .. so 8 hour class x 2 days .. then divide that by the number in the class .. cost per person ..

so that 120 per day class and 240 total for the 16 hours ..

20 people in the class ... then .. 12 bucks per person ..
 
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Acer-m14 said:
even thou its still a damn poll tax .. i would be ok with this for the time being ...

15 per hour .. so 8 hour class x 2 days .. then divide that by the number in the class .. cost per person ..

so that 120 per day class and 240 total for the 16 hours ..

20 people in the class ... then .. 12 bucks per person ..
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Unfortunately the instructors will never see it that way. Average all in is about $500 per person. Broome still insists I have to have the course to drop the restrictions.
 
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Acer-m14 said:
the Firingpin is 400
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from the comments there ..

Ted Wright
Iron Sight - $295
Onsight - $209
On Target - $289
RAAFA - $300
Rochester Personal Defense - $325
And Tony Boyce I'm not complaining about the economy. I'm complaining about a company that pretends to 2A AF, yet has no problem (significantly) profiting from a required course.
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    Onsight is $450. And some of those prices are without a doubt reasonable. But to each their own man. That place puts an lot of their own money into the fight against unconstitutional laws like the ones that requires class period. Happy to support ANY business that is active in the fight against this shit. Cheers
 
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from the comments there ..

Ted Wright
Iron Sight - $295
Onsight - $209
On Target - $289
RAAFA - $300
Rochester Personal Defense - $325
And Tony Boyce I'm not complaining about the economy. I'm complaining about a company that pretends to 2A AF, yet has no problem (significantly) profiting from a required course.
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Broome has their own list of approved courses, only 4 places.
 
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Tony Boyce
Onsight is $450. And some of those prices are without a doubt reasonable.
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No it's not.
Not in any way, shape, or form.
I don't have a spare $450 most of the time, and I damned well shouldn't have to pay to exercise my Rights!
If that troll-faced hitler love baby wannabe wants to demand costs be associated with exercising a Right then she can pay for it, and NOT out of our tax dollars.
 
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Grimscale said:
No it's not.
Not in any way, shape, or form.
I don't have a spare $450 most of the time, and I damned well shouldn't have to pay to exercise my Rights!
If that troll-faced hitler love baby wannabe wants to demand costs be associated with exercising a Right then she can pay for it, and NOT out of our tax dollars.
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That's not counting digital finger printing $100, ammo, and a gun purchase.

You're out well over 1g and a lot of time and energy to exercise a right. Imagine if people had to do that for voting or freedom of speech.
 
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Acer-m14 said:
PSA .,. pay with CC .. then cancel it after class .. LMAO ..
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That’s theft and it won’t work. The credit card companies don’t just give you a refund if you request one and the contact the provider for their side of the story. You will surely get a certificate and the provider will show that and your charge back will be denied. Be great if people did this and the instructor called the permit office and those that did this were denied their permits. Don’t like the price don’t sign up for the course. I agree it’s too much and it sucks. I was actually one of the first to find a concrete price and say it’s a rip off so I feel for you but this is not the right way to do it.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
Local guy by me is charging $575 so?? I feel that’s a bit too much.
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Interesting... According to the WYSL podcast that I just posted. No instruction from the state has yet been passed down .The state will want certain boxes to be checked off... .. And they have not even introduced them .. to the public yet. ... Trying to pass through all the hoops could cost a lot more.
 
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