Bustedknees
.308 Win
They talked about gun rights inside the Syracuse Zoo for several minutes. Now you can rest easy tonight.
Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)
- Thread starter Glock_USA
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ever optimistic I am, agree with you I do.
Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
I listened for about 15-20 minutes. Got glassy eyed and started to fall asleep. It was that informative.
ManualF150
.308 Win
I wonder what kind of "Huge Surprise" or other fanciful lingo that Armed Scholar, Four Boxes, and the other Tubers will come up with to keep the wishful thinkers happy -- errrr, I mean to keep the ad/click revenue coming in? 
I've watched their videos from the start of Bruen till now, and wow. The ship can only take on so much water, if you know what I mean.
Heck, my waders aren't good enough, I better get out my drysuit with SCBA gear... but I'll run out of air waiting.
I've watched their videos from the start of Bruen till now, and wow. The ship can only take on so much water, if you know what I mean.
Heck, my waders aren't good enough, I better get out my drysuit with SCBA gear... but I'll run out of air waiting.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Well one of two things IMO a will happen.I wonder what kind of "Huge Surprise" or other fanciful lingo that Armed Scholar, Four Boxes, and the other Tubers will come up with to keep the wishful thinkers happy -- errrr, I mean to keep the ad/click revenue coming in?
I've watched their videos from the start of Bruen till now, and wow. The ship can only take on so much water, if you know what I mean.
Heck, my waders aren't good enough, I better get out my drysuit with SCBA gear... but I'll run out of air waiting.
1.) the second circuit will toss us a bone in an attempt to save face and prevent it from going to the SC.
2.) they will save face with the powerful liberals and deny everything forcing the Supreme Court to take the case and make the decision. This will allow the liberals to say how extreme the SC is and how they need to be checked or to expand the court.
3.) I know I said one of two things but the liberals also might be thinking we’re out of money and won’t proceed to the Supreme Court.
These are my meager thoughts and take them for what they are.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
You guys are funny. How quickly did you expect this all to play out?
Lincoln gave the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863. 160 years later, democrats are still coming up with new ways to subjugate and oppress brown people.
After Brown vs. Board of Ed, some democrat controlled school districts closed their schools for a decade to resist integration. They closed public schools for 10 years to avoid complying with a Supreme Court decision.
The commie democrats play the long game. We're not going to win with a single home run.
We're going to win in small incremental steps. Bruen was a big step forward with some uncomfortable but predictable side effects. When the 2nd Circuit gives their ruling, probably in a few months, we'll be lined up for another step forward.
Lincoln gave the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863. 160 years later, democrats are still coming up with new ways to subjugate and oppress brown people.
After Brown vs. Board of Ed, some democrat controlled school districts closed their schools for a decade to resist integration. They closed public schools for 10 years to avoid complying with a Supreme Court decision.
The commie democrats play the long game. We're not going to win with a single home run.
We're going to win in small incremental steps. Bruen was a big step forward with some uncomfortable but predictable side effects. When the 2nd Circuit gives their ruling, probably in a few months, we'll be lined up for another step forward.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
For anyone interested in listening to the recordings they can be found here. I listened to two of them so far and they are quick and to the point. So far it doesn’t seem like things are going badly to me. Of course there’s time to go down in flames.
Look under oral arguments recordings.
Look under oral arguments recordings.
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Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Here is a good overview of what went down. IMO the one lawyer did do a bad job of defending sensitive places and to me it’s pretty easy to determine what a sensitive place is and it should be controlled entry with people(cops or security guards) monitoring or entering who can come in through some sort of screening means. This guy failed at that horribly. I think the justices are struggling how to decide and it will be some time before we hear. The one judge did say we will rule and it will stand until the SC over rules is so I think we won’t be to happy with their decision.
I think the state struggled to defend how they made up what a sensitive location is and why churches are one as well as the private property ban. The state is saying they didn’t ban guns on private property and that property owners did.
Here is a good review of what occurred.
www.niagara-gazette.com
I think the state struggled to defend how they made up what a sensitive location is and why churches are one as well as the private property ban. The state is saying they didn’t ban guns on private property and that property owners did.
Here is a good review of what occurred.
Appeals court reserves decision on constitutionality of New York gun law
NEW YORK CITY — For just over two and a half hours Monday, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals seemed to struggle to find a
www.niagara-gazette.com
maverick52
.223 Rem
The attorney representing Antonyuk was horrible. He’s the GOA attorney. Real embarrassment. He also did a shabby job in front of Suddaby if you recall. The one thing we have to remember is that oral arguments are only one aspect. There are a lot of briefs that have been filed. The panel must read through all of the briefs and through Bruen before rendering a decision. I still think that the court shows their cards. They are true blue liberals and I think they will side with the state. This will be a long slog and most of us won’t be living around here by the time it’s settled.
GlockModel29
.40 S&W
I'd be overjoyed if the 2nd Circuit squashed the private property BS and let SCOTUS squash the rest....
GlockModel29
.40 S&W
I'm hoping that'll be the one bone they throw us....wishful thinking I know....
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
I didn't think the GOA lawyer was that bad. Definitely not as polished of a speaker as the others, but I thought he got his point across.
maverick52
.223 Rem
I am in agreement. It’s sad though how much we lost last year and how conditioned we are to hope to get a small bone from CA2. I hate living in NYS
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GlockModel29
.40 S&W
Oh absolutely.....NYS is TERRIBLE...Im eying up Tennessee when I retire in 4 years....
maverick52
.223 Rem
I have eight years left. I am looking at Fl or NC
northny
.40 S&W
For the love of all that is Holy can someone change the title of this thread? There is no TRO, nothing is being restrained. Just add the word revoked in capital letters after TRO. or tell the truth, change it to “CCIA remains in full force”
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Correct and I agree he did a terrible job. He spent so much time off track his point was never made. When asked what makes a sensitive location sensitive the guy sucked terribly. The statement should have been courts are sensitive because police control the entry and exit with screenings and metal detection. He stumbled horribly.
maverick52
.223 Rem
2nd Circuit’s Fumble of New York Gun Law Could Soon Return the Issue to Supreme Court
Hardaway is the first challenge to new gun laws to reach the appellate level, leaving many court-watchers convinced that the Supreme Court will have to…
www.nysun.com
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
Feel like giving a synopsis for those without a subscription?2nd Circuit’s Fumble of New York Gun Law Could Soon Return the Issue to Supreme Court
Hardaway is the first challenge to new gun laws to reach the appellate level, leaving many court-watchers convinced that the Supreme Court will have to…
Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
Yeah, can't read the article unless/until... bla bla bla...
What I think it means is this; Andy won't let Barney put a bullet in his gun. So Barney now needs to take it up with Aunt Bee. Aunt Bee might say it's ok for Barney to load a bullet into his gun. But then Andy probably won't allow Barney to have a bullet. So it seems to be going....
John Stark
.44 mag
It basically briefly rehashes how Hardaway v. Nigrelli went in front of the 3 judge panel @ the 2nd Circuit; the case that deals with Arms in houses of worship. There's just about nothing new in the article beyond a little commentary on how the judges behaved and predictions of how its going to pan out:
Article is essentially pointless and comes across as filler clickbait as far as I'm concerned.
maverick52
.223 Rem
Nothing new other than they like many others are predicting this is all going to the Supreme Court and that the Second Circuit wont bend an inch. It appears the writer is familiar with the second circuit and feels they were hostile. Just a confirmation of what we all already know.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
I don't know, I thought he sounded like a babbling fool at times, getting WAY off topic. And a lot of searching for answers rather than having them at the ready. Like trying to do a book report in front of your English class and you only read the cliff notes on the bus ride in to school that morning. (Not that I have experience with that....)
maverick52
.223 Rem
I know this was mentioned before. But can one of the mods change the title of this post? This is the CCIA lawsuits page. The TRO is long behind us. Any idea how to change it?
The OP can change it anytime they want to.
maverick52
.223 Rem
@Glock_USA how bout it?
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
I believe the hearings last week were to determine the status of the stays placed on the TROs.
Ridiculous as it is, the thread title is still applicable.
Ridiculous as it is, the thread title is still applicable.
maverick52
.223 Rem
Actually the hearings were for the preliminary injunctions…not the TROs. TROs are temporary.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I could have made a decision by now.