THE ADVENTURES OF THE 47TH PRESIDENT....

[libertysnake]

Transgender is a mental disorder, they shouldnt have any special "rights". You are born a man and want to play pretend female? You should be ready for the abuse and all the short comings that go along with your decision. We should not be forced to play along with your delusion and be forced to call you by your chosen pronoun. You are a biological man, I will refer to you as mister, he, him. Period.

Disorders are not necessarily illnesses. Would you say a child with ADHD is mentally ill? No. It's a learning disability. There's a difference between a disorder and an illness. Even the ADA recognizes that, officially.

I also never said they deserved "special" rights. They deserve the same rights as anyone else.

No one should be ready for any abuse, period. Left or right. To say anyone should be "ready" for it is horrible.

You can think what you want about trans people. That's your right. But don't think you're allowed to intrude into their personal lives and start telling them how they should classify themselves. You have no right to dictate their lives, only your own.

 

[Saltwater60]

What’s your thoughts on Elon Musk’s supposed Nazi salute?
I keep hearing crap about it from demos on Facebook

It’s dumb and not a Nazi salute but it was stupid for him to do and anyone could have seen this as an outcome. I’ve never seen a crossbody Nazi salute. I’ve watched a good bit of historical and WWII things. I’ll admit I can’t say this is my area of expertise or something I’ve been attentive to in the past but here’s a historical video and none are cross body.

 

[Steal2B]

Here is a county whose school district has a DEI staff of 52 and the dept head makes more than the VP of the USA. These 52 in the DEI dept make more than 125 teachers.

Pricetag of "equity" in Fairfax County Schools: $6.4 million

www.fairfaxtimes.com

 

[GOPerfect]

Disorders are not necessarily illnesses. Would you say a child with ADHD is mentally ill? No. It's a learning disability. There's a difference between a disorder and an illness. Even the ADA recognizes that, officially.

I also never said they deserved "special" rights. They deserve the same rights as anyone else.

No one should be ready for any abuse, period. Left or right. To say anyone should be "ready" for it is horrible.

You can think what you want about trans people. That's your right. But don't think you're allowed to intrude into their personal lives and start telling them how they should classify themselves. You have no right to dictate their lives, only your own.

This trangenderism is not even close to ADHA.

Which Rights to these people not have that normal people have? Can you be specific?

No one is telling them that they can identify as whatever they want, this Government is just saying that the .gov will not recognize their wants.

Being a tranny has not been make unlawful, not even close. Maybe that day will come, but not today

 

[libertysnake]

And here is a topic that you and I will disagree on as well.

There is no such thing as Transgender Rights, just like there is no such thing as Normal People Rights.

This is the thing, these people think they are entitled to things that do not exist.

They have the same Rights as Normies do.

A male prisoner needs to be housed in a Male prison, regardless of how they feel.

As for the Military, they have no business serving, none at all. They are not mentally stable, they need not be in uniform.

They shouldnt' have special rights at all. I'm up in the air about the prison thing personally for some practical reasons of relations between prisoners and it depends largely on "when" they transitioned how much muscle mass they have comparatively to men or women. So that's more a gray area.

As for the military, they have every right to serve. I absolutely disagree with you. If they meet the combat standard, they have every right to fight and die for their country as everyone else. The standard is all that should ever matter, and the standards should be blind to gender all together. Which will mean, for obvious reasons, women will be largely (but not totally) disqualified from some roles due to the standard. Same with trans women as well who might not be able to meet such standards after transitioning.

And no, they're not mentally unstable by definition. They may have more incidents of instability than most, true, but by definition, they aren't unstable.

 

[GOPerfect]

They shouldnt' have special rights at all. I'm up in the air about the prison thing personally for some practical reasons of relations between prisoners and it depends largely on "when" they transitioned how much muscle mass they have comparatively to men or women. So that's more a gray area.

As for the military, they have every right to serve. I absolutely disagree with you. If they meet the combat standard, they have every right to fight and die for their country as everyone else. The standard is all that should ever matter, and the standards should be blind to gender all together. Which will mean, for obvious reasons, women will be largely (but not totally) disqualified from some roles due to the standard. Same with trans women as well who might not be able to meet such standards after transitioning.

And no, they're not mentally unstable by definition. They may have more incidents of instability than most, true, but by definition, they aren't unstable.

No one is allowed to serve that has been found to have a serious Mental disorder.

Here is a short list that cannot serve....

Psychotic disorders: Such as schizophrenia, paranoid disorder, or other unspecified psychosis

• Mood disorders: Such as major depression, bipolar disorder, or depressive disorder
  
  
• Anxiety disorders: Such as panic disorder, agoraphobia, social phobia, or obsessive-compulsive disorder
  
  
• Conduct or behavioral disorders: Such as impulse control disorder, oppositional defiant disorder, or antisocial behavior
  
  
• Eating disorders: Such as anorexia or bulimia
  
  
• Attention deficit disorder (ADD) or hyperactivity disorder (ADHD): If symptoms interfere with academic or perceptual skills
  
  
• Learning disabilities: Such as dyslexia
  

 

[GOPerfect]

A diagnosis for gender dysphoria is included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5). The DSM-5 is published by the American Psychiatric Association.

 

[kev74]

#winning!

 

[kev74]

 

[libertysnake]

A diagnosis for gender dysphoria is included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5). The DSM-5 is published by the American Psychiatric Association.

I didn't see Gender Dysphoria on the list of banned disorders by the military. It's a disorder, but not an illness. And it may not be a classified disorder for longer when DSM6 comes out most likely because of this very reason.

There are disorders/disabilities, and then there are illnesses. A disorder or disability doesn't inherently change your ability to function, it's just a neurodivergence.

By contrast, an illness like major depression or anxiety does, by definition, interfere with basic life tasks like eating and sleeping per the diagnostic criteria.

 

[Koz]

Here's one of the countless stupid things that dems always do. They live in a small circle of like-minded dolts, a corrupt political party and a complicit legacy media. As such, they feel like their warped ideology is mainstream and it makes them dive in headfirst without testing the waters. They might receive a bit more understanding from the masses if they didn't try to shove so much down the throats of Americans all at one time. When I feel like the left is trying to push some cause de jour, I just turn them off. Right up until it affects me and mine. Then it's game on and I'm forced to take a FU stance. Between Barry, Biden and the immoral congressional dems and rinos, I've been in a full FU mode with these commie pricks the past 16 years.

 

[kev74]

 

[spat]

Disorders are not necessarily illnesses. Would you say a child with ADHD is mentally ill? No. It's a learning disability. There's a difference between a disorder and an illness. Even the ADA recognizes that, officially.

I also never said they deserved "special" rights. They deserve the same rights as anyone else.

No one should be ready for any abuse, period. Left or right. To say anyone should be "ready" for it is horrible.

You can think what you want about trans people. That's your right. But don't think you're allowed to intrude into their personal lives and start telling them how they should classify themselves. You have no right to dictate their lives, only your own.

They can live however they want. But they don't get to dictate how other people see them.

If they commit a crime and go to prison, they go to the prison that matches their plumbing.

It's not a complicated idea.

 

[stokes]

If they commit a crime and go to prison, they go to the prison that matches their plumbing.

And not just prisons. If you want to use a public restroom, take your dick to the restroom where all the other dicks go.

It's a disorder, but not an illness.

Its a mental disorder. The word disorder is defined in the dictionary as "a disturbance in physical or mental health or functions; malady or dysfunction:"
If you are born male and struggle with your sexual identity you have a mental disorder. You make a choice to play female, suck it up. If you are jailed for something you shouldnt be given special privelige no special cell block, go to te male cell block and enjoy your sexual identity, I am sure there are many there to help you. Otherwise put them in mental inst to sort out their problems.

 

[kev74]

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Anyone want to guess where a bunch of Valentine's Day flowers come from?

The 4D chess thing is real!

 

[kev74]

Amazing what can be done without a shot being fired!

 

[kev74]

 

[Dr. Evil]

What’s your thoughts on Elon Musk’s supposed Nazi salute?
I keep hearing crap about it from demos on Facebook

It wasn't a Nazi salute. If you play the audio he says his heart goes out to everyone. He was grabbing his heart and throwing it to everyone there. He seems to be socially awkward. That can be seen in his manerisms at past rallies and other events with Trump. He is like an excited teenager. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a touch of Asperger's in there somewhere. Elan is just Elan and nothing more. Fuck the media.

 

[libertysnake]

And not just prisons. If you want to use a public restroom, take your dick to the restroom where all the other dicks go.

Its a mental disorder. The word disorder is defined in the dictionary as "a disturbance in physical or mental health or functions; malady or dysfunction:"
If you are born male and struggle with your sexual identity you have a mental disorder. You make a choice to play female, suck it up. If you are jailed for something you shouldnt be given special privelige no special cell block, go to te male cell block and enjoy your sexual identity, I am sure there are many there to help you. Otherwise put them in mental inst to sort out their problems.

It's not defined as a disorder in DSM5. It's just labeled "gender dysphoria," because it's not an illness. No where is it considered an illness. It's just refered to as "a condition." It's considered a neurodivergence.

And in DSM6 it will probably be totally depathologized in a year or two when that is released. So it won't even be in the latest manuals.

 

[stokes]

It's a disorder, but not an illness.

's not defined as a disorder in DSM5. It's just labeled "gender dysphoria,"

Make up your mind, ya startin to sound like a democrat.

 

[Jsmegs77]

It wasn't a Nazi salute. If you play the audio he says his heart goes out to everyone. He was grabbing his heart and throwing it to everyone there. He seems to be socially awkward. That can be seen in his manerisms at past rallies and other events with Trump. He is like an excited teenager. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a touch of Asperger's in there somewhere. Elan is just Elan and nothing more. Fuck the media.

I thought it was pretty common knowledge that he’s on the spectrum. I couldn’t understand why they’re making his awkwardness out to be malice, except “Orange Man Bad, and our former favorite billionaire is a traitor”.

 

[Brawny71]

And here is a topic that you and I will disagree on as well.

There is no such thing as Transgender Rights, just like there is no such thing as Normal People Rights.

This is the thing, these people think they are entitled to things that do not exist.

They have the same Rights as Normies do.

A male prisoner needs to be housed in a Male prison, regardless of how they feel.

As for the Military, they have no business serving, none at all. They are not mentally stable, they need not be in uniform.

Look, We all have a right to the pursuit of happiness and to feel safe. But a line needs to be defined. You trapped in the wrong body and are an adult; there is a procedure. Commit and follow it. At the end, when complete, I don’t care which prison you go to or which bathroom. But commit. Not like Lea Thomas who identified and still hung brain in the locker room. That isn’t right for any involved. I’m still confused how Lance Armstrong gets booted for hormones, WHILE he is fighting testicular cancer, yet Lea and others are ok. Call me confused.

I honestly don’t care if you want to identify as a demon and have horns and teeth installed and modified. Just don’t call me a Phobe because I don’t joint in or honor your “bravery”. Where it really bothers me is if a dude in a sundress walks into a store with a full beard; that is normal. For me to carry a concealed weapon that noone can see is crazy. Both cases the adult is doing what makes them feel comfortable and safe. Both have a right to feel safe. Neither is actively a threat to anyone else's right to pursuit. Yet one is being targeted and attacked regularly. But maybe there is a change coming.

 

[libertysnake]

Make up your mind, ya startin to sound like a democrat.

The DSM does not make any claims about it, other than mentioning is an "incongruence." It doesn't call it an illness. It's a manual full of disorders, but the NIMH doesn't consider things like ASD an illness for example (they treat it as a developmental issue), and it's in the DSM5.

Trans people are not out to molest your children, or assault random people. Who honestly gives a shit what they do as long as they're not hurting anyone? I still don't understand what the issue is here. Just treat them with the same standard as everyone else in all situations, and have a sliding scale for sports or something based on their transition date or something (that needs to be practical.)

So make up your mind. Are you going to be a transphobe and discriminatory against people who mean no harm to you?

 

[Dr. Evil]

Who honestly gives a shit what they do as long as they're not hurting anyone?

I don't. Until they start to tell me if I don't recognize them I'm a _________ (fill in the blank with what ever flavor of the month you want). Personally, I think they are mental cases. It is the constant in your face about their lifestyle that I can do without. For such a small percentage of the population they make a big enough stink about themselves that I can't help but have animosity. Live your life, stop shouting about it from the mountain tops and leave me alone.

 

[libertysnake]

I don't. Until they start to tell me if I don't recognize them I'm a _________ (fill in the blank with what ever flavor of the month you want). Personally, I think they are mental cases. It is the constant in your face about their lifestyle that I can do without. For such a small percentage of the population they make a big enough stink about themselves that I can't help but have animosity. Live your life, stop shouting about it from the mountain tops and leave me alone.

I'm not saying anyone should be in anyone's face or flamboyant. I find it annoying.

I don't care if they want to live their lives and call themselves what they want. But it do believe in their right to do so.

And that is where I depart with many people on this forum.

 

[pjzwtl]

Oh shit he called you all transphobe

 

[Dr. Evil]

But it do believe in their right to do so.

Never said they didn't. I do though also believe in my right to be left alone and not have it broadcasted 24/7 in schools, the media, politics, etc.. THEY never know when to leave well enough alone. THEY don't even realize THEY cause their own problems but thrusting the spotlight on THEMSELVES. Live your life, stay out of mine and STFU.

 

[GOPerfect]

I'm not saying anyone should be in anyone's face or flamboyant. I find it annoying.

I don't care if they want to live their lives and call themselves what they want. But it do believe in their right to do so.

And that is where I depart with many people on this forum.

They have the exact same rights as the normals. What right to exist do they not have? What can they not do that the rest of us can?

I see this statement often, no one says what rights they have been stripped from them.

 

[kev74]

I'm not saying anyone should be in anyone's face or flamboyant. I find it annoying.

I don't care if they want to live their lives and call themselves what they want. But it do believe in their right to do so.

And that is where I depart with many people on this forum.

Sure. Let these mental defectives dress how they want, chop off the pieces God gave them and play make believe.

Their right to be delusional doesn't give them the right to make the other 99% of people in society uncomfortable. It doesn't give them the right to use the wrong bathroom or locker room to creep out on women. It doesn't give them the right to go to women's prisons to creep out and rape that population.

Their right to be delusional doesn't mean I have to play along.

 

[stokes]

So make up your mind. Are you going to be a transphobe and discriminatory against people who mean no harm to you?

There it is, you are a dem. I dont believe what you believe so I'm a phobe. Make up my mind? What are my choices? The quote I posted there you only give me one choice, to be a transphobe and discriminatory. Whats the alternative? Oh, to get on board with you and give in to irrational demands by irrational people with a mental disorder. I havent once in this exchange suggested being discriminatory at all. In true dem form, you just make it up as you go along. I dont give a fuck what somebody wants to call themselves, but dont expect me to succumb and call you by what you aint. Dont demand special privelege because you need mental help. Dont call yourself a woman when you got a dick and testosterone pumping in your system and expect to be allowed to compete in womans sports. If a genetic female takes testosterone she is not allowed to compete, but if you have it naturally, thats ok? In post #382 I quoted 2 statements by you that are contradictory, or were you just being a hypocritical dem?