The SHUSH ACT ... Classify suppressors as gun accessory
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timboy
.44 mag
We can't even have threaded barrels here,don't get your hopes up..
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
It's great, I hope it gets through but of course I am not holding a single breath or even slowing my breathing on this.
And as pointed out, we live in new york so we're screwed anyway no matter what, the 2nd doesn't really apply here.
And as pointed out, we live in new york so we're screwed anyway no matter what, the 2nd doesn't really apply here.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Well, let's say it does pass and NY allows it, willingly or through coercion by the Fed's, but still keeps barrel threads illegal, there are other ways to attach a suppressor. You may even see more integral stuff hitting the market.
spat
.950 JDJ
At least one version of this preempts state laws.
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
The 2nd amendment doesn't even preempt New York state law. If dear leader doesn't even want you putting an 8th round in your 10 round mag you better believe he doesn't want to grow a new generation of assassins in our beloved state.
spat
.950 JDJ
If preemption passes, he can kiss my ass.The 2nd amendment doesn't even preempt New York state law. If dear leader doesn't even want you putting an 8th round in your 10 round mag you better believe he doesn't want to grow a new generation of assassins in our beloved state.
I'll pin and weld a suppressor to a barrel if I have to.
ManrisFrack
6.5 Creedmoor
Why the hell did they call them "Silencers" in the title of the bill?!?! Suppressor doesn't even screw up their stupid acronym.
hoodfu
.40 S&W
Because silencer is the official term in the NFA that this is supposed to undo. The very first sound suppressors were called silencers and the name stuck.
I think this is the first thing I'd buy:
I don't see this helping us in the land of NO York
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Do I need a permit to cook outdoors? The state police weren't sure. Submit your days itinerary to the local politburo, I don't think adding a noise suppressor to your gun will pass muster, now your car on the other hand, without a suppressor is a good fund raiser for our social well being, i.e., the state
Robin
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Uzi
.308 Win
There are barrel lugs that allow quick detachment for suppressors, so barrel threads aren't a huge issue. The issue is that it's not going to happen. If it did happen, which it will not, you'd never want to permanently install a suppressor. Depending on the mounting, the internal baffles need to be disassembled and cleaned eventually. All of the blowback gas and carbon collects inside overtime and they get filthy. Suppressors can be messy to shoot with. Any victory would better than not, but we need desperately to get rid of things like federal assault weapon bans and magazine restrictions. We need to repeal the entire NFA and allow FA and SBR's too, not just pick out our favorites. Compensating for illegal gun laws takes lifespans; a true victory means getting rid of every unconstitutional restriction. The hearing protection act IS a great idea logistically, but it's playing the game that they want. The proof is there, everyone in this country is born ready to own any type of firearm they fucking desire. No ifs ands or buts. It's not even a debate, how we allowed ourselves to get bent over and screwed so hard in the asshole by debating it in the first place shows what extremes the people WON'T take. We're well on our way to following great britain or australia gun control. Infact, many people have it WORSE off in this country already. If Trump doesn't take advantage and get some of this stuff through, We are literally doomed 100%.
As our rights have been violated so must their return unfortunately, bit by bit. Suppressors are the low hanging fruit.
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
So these now regulated items could be freely owned by these people? I have zero problem with that, since they are still prohibited from legally owning firearms anyway. I know, logic....its painful sometimes.
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
A lot to this. I was surprised to learn that new zealand actually has a lot of suppressors. I think you just pay to buy it and that's that.
The suppressor law is another in a long line of laws created by idiots to prevent nothing; e.g. same vein as no switch blades.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Wait...wait...the rank and file Republicans spent 7 years shouting "Repeal and Replace Obamacare!" They ran on that platform. Once they finally got the House, Senate, and White House...NOTHING! And you think that they'll do something as mundane as help us protect our 2A rights here in the People's Republic of New York? Seriously?
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
^AFUCKINGMEN^
Robin
Robin
I'm sorry to say with out regulatory control you will see these fly straight in the hand is criminals.
I'm a realist there is a level of gun control need we have gone way past the level but to think the no gun control is the answer you live in a fantasy world.
The minimum would be a NICS check and FFL transfer.
I'm a realist there is a level of gun control need we have gone way past the level but to think the no gun control is the answer you live in a fantasy world.
The minimum would be a NICS check and FFL transfer.
freddy
.308 Win
Oh boy. Now you've done it. Get ready.... INCOMING!
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Ahaha "I killed the house nigga"
ManrisFrack
6.5 Creedmoor
Google "solvent trap." Hell, google pop bottle silencer. There are "legal" ways to acquire suppressor-like items (and I'm speaking to function here, not appearance) and yet, you do NOT often see them used for nefarious purposes. If they WERE commonly used by criminals, that traitorous Gillibrand, her mentor and the rest of their ilk would've been shouting it from the mountain tops. Your assertion is rooted in fear and indoctrination, not reality.
Thats all fine and dandy you assume they are smart enough to build the solvent trap. Like i said there is a level of gun control needed and we have well exceeded that level. If you think you would not see the more frequent use of them by criminal if you could just send your home boy to Dicks and pick one off the self you are you need to wake up.
The level of gun control in parts of this country are so asinine cause of there restriction on everything that a truly useful gun control act would be seem as no control.
Face a gun owner I think we all have the same line of thinking keeping firearm out of the hands of criminals and mentally ill people (the dangerous one).
But in the last 20 plus years since I really started paying attention to them there hasn't been a single law that has done nothing but add restriction to legal gun owner. So to say having to get you suppressor from a FFL and a nics check is to restrictive it a improvement and will keep them from the hand of criminals.
You honestly think if you could just go to the LGS and pick up a full auto ak47 that the criminals would be buy them by the trunk load. Seriously.
Clipazine
.45 acp
Are you saying suppressor availability will create criminals? Is there would-be criminals who are going to decide to take up a life of crime if they can get them?
Are suppressed guns more deadly than unsuppressed? Do you believe it makes a little bird chirping sound when you fire it, so everyone will become assassins?
Do you feel we need NICS checks for every every gun accessories? " uhhhhh we need NICS checks for folding stocks because criminals will hide them under their coats"
DEEERRRPP
ManrisFrack
6.5 Creedmoor
Yep, all the bad guys are idiots who can't find their way around YouTube. Come on, it ain't rocket science. If criminals desire them, someone will feed the black market with solvent trap suppressors. FFL, NICS check? Doing a great job of keeping the guns away from the bangers, aren't they?
We're not talking about full auto here. Apples and oranges so let's just forget you tried to make that bullshit parallel.
Suppressors are like magazines - accessories. I'll even go so far as to say they are LESS "dangerous." They aren't magical assassin devices. Suppressed gunfire is still loud unless you go through the trouble to use subs. Hell, most commercial rifle suppressors aren't even truly hearing safe without subs.
So what if all the criminals DO go buy them? What difference do you think it'll make? Any criminal that actually cares about how loud his gun is can already suppress it if they really want to. The thing is, they don't care enough to hang a suppressor off the end and stuff it in their waistband.
We're not talking about full auto here. Apples and oranges so let's just forget you tried to make that bullshit parallel.
Suppressors are like magazines - accessories. I'll even go so far as to say they are LESS "dangerous." They aren't magical assassin devices. Suppressed gunfire is still loud unless you go through the trouble to use subs. Hell, most commercial rifle suppressors aren't even truly hearing safe without subs.
So what if all the criminals DO go buy them? What difference do you think it'll make? Any criminal that actually cares about how loud his gun is can already suppress it if they really want to. The thing is, they don't care enough to hang a suppressor off the end and stuff it in their waistband.
No I'm saying that making them a accessories where you don't need anything to buy one is asinine.
Like I've said all along there is and always will be the need for some level of gun control. What we have now is the extreme opposite of what is needed.
Clipazine
.45 acp
Ugh. You're right. This land was a total war zone before 1993.
Or maybe you're just a part of the problem. I'm sorry you feel the need to be regulated.
Ok then your saying that there is no need for any gun control or regulations? At all.
Clipazine
.45 acp
Exactly. "Shall NOT be infringed." It's not "Shall not be infringed.... unless"