Westchester Full Carry

[TopShot]

It's not to carry everyday.
It's the freedom to have the gun when I want where I want within reason.
With out being questioned.

 

[Marine Cpl]

It's not to carry everyday.
It's the freedom to have the gun when I want where I want within reason.
With out being questioned.

I get it. My opinion still stands though. And I'm not just talking out of my ass. While I have an unrestricted, it isn't valid everywhere or questioned.

 

[Cureforcancer]

You have to sit down and really think deep about why you want to carry. If it's for self defense, the day that you have to use it and you don't have it, you'll regret not ever carrying it. Especially if it results in the death of a loved one.

One has to put their priorities in order. Is risking their prized collection worth their family's life? Even if it's just you and your family isn't with you, your permanent absence if God forbid something happens to you will affect your family. One has to think about that.

There are many ways to conceal a firearm where it is totally undetectable to the naked eye.

That's my opinion for those who cannot get an unrestricted.

You are 100% correct Will but it is your RIGHT as an American even if for some is just a "fashion statement"...seen some of those down here.

 

[TopShot]

I would respect the places it would not be allowed, schools, post offices, court houses, etc.

 

[Cureforcancer]

I would respect the places it would not be allowed, schools, post offices, court houses, etc.

Get insurance.

 

[TopShot]

I don't know if you guys heard the story about a guy that was in the Galleria Mall in White Plains.
As he was walking in the food court during a crowded lunch hour there happened to be 2 While plains cops near by.
As he walked by they noticed he was printing. They stopped him and casually asked to see his permit.
He showed it to them and it had a Sportsman restriction.
They then asked him what what he doing in the mall.
He said "I'm HIKING". They gave him back his permit and told him to
get out of here and not to let them see him out of his restriction again.

 

[Cureforcancer]

I don't know if you guys heard the story about a guy that was in the Galleria Mall in White Plains.
As he was walking in the food court during a crowded lunch hour there happened to be 2 While plains cops near by.
As he walked by they noticed he was printing. They stopped him and casually asked to see his permit.
He showed it to them and it had a Sportsman restriction.
They then asked him what what he doing in the mall.
He said "I'm HIKING". They gave him back his permit and told him to
get out of here and not to let them see him out of his restriction again.

Links or it never happened.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I don't know if you guys heard the story about a guy that was in the Galleria Mall in White Plains.
As he was walking in the food court during a crowded lunch hour there happened to be 2 While plains cops near by.
As he walked by they noticed he was printing. They stopped him and casually asked to see his permit.
He showed it to them and it had a Sportsman restriction.
They then asked him what what he doing in the mall.
He said "I'm HIKING". They gave him back his permit and told him to
get out of here and not to let them see him out of his restriction again.

That right there is the main reason I conceal properly and do not print. Even with an unrestricted, I don't want the attention unlike some guys on this forum.

 

[TopShot]

Cureforcancer, no links, never made the paper.
Story was told to me by a retired White Plains PD Sergeant
who also was a White Plains PD firearm instructor.
Makes for a good story but he has no reason to lie to me.

 

[Cureforcancer]

Cureforcancer, no links, never made the paper.
Story was told to me by a retired White Plains PD Sergeant and White Plains PD firearm instructor.
Makes for a good story but he has no reason to lie to me.

Apply for your unrestricted. I have shared my experience doing so.

GL bro

 

[Doc8404]

Cureforcancer, no links, never made the paper.
Story was told to me by a retired White Plains PD Sergeant
who also was a White Plains PD firearm instructor.
Makes for a good story but he has no reason to lie to me.

Other than bravado and proving the power they have over us.

 

[Doc8404]

I don't know if you guys heard the story about a guy that was in the Galleria Mall in White Plains.
As he was walking in the food court during a crowded lunch hour there happened to be 2 While plains cops near by.
As he walked by they noticed he was printing. They stopped him and casually asked to see his permit.
He showed it to them and it had a Sportsman restriction.
They then asked him what what he doing in the mall.
He said "I'm HIKING". They gave him back his permit and told him to
get out of here and not to let them see him out of his restriction again.

Not understanding how this went down.
Not doubting you or trying to be a dick.
But that dude must've been printing pretty bad.
To be stopped and asked to produce a permit because they saw something. Wow. Stretching that authority.
"Sorry. Insulin pump."

 

[TopShot]

Doc8404, it's what I was told.
If I knew it would of made so much controversy I wouldn't even have mention it.

 

[Doc8404]

Doc8404, it's what I was told.
If I knew it would of made so much controversy I wouldn't even have mention it.

I know man. We are sensitive when it comes to power trips like that. Don't stop posting. We need new stuff to bitch about daily

 

[Jem45472]

I was told i did not demonstrate a need greater than an average citizen to carry a gun, and he cited a cpurt case that ruled a person needs to provide "good cause".

What bs, most "average citizens" in the rest of the state can carry without restrictions. If not right away, then after a year or so when they can prove they're not a danger to society or themselves.

 

[ADK]

I don't know if you guys heard the story about a guy that was in the Galleria Mall in White Plains.
As he was walking in the food court during a crowded lunch hour there happened to be 2 While plains cops near by.
As he walked by they noticed he was printing. They stopped him and casually asked to see his permit.
He showed it to them and it had a Sportsman restriction.
They then asked him what what he doing in the mall.
He said "I'm HIKING". They gave him back his permit and told him to
get out of here and not to let them see him out of his restriction again.

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The story sounds about right. It is not a crime to carry on a restricted permit and the restriction only applies to the county it was issued in.

Cops have every right to check you out but have no grounds to arrest you if you have a permit.

 

[Doc8404]

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The story sounds about right. It is not a crime to carry on a restricted permit and the restriction only applies to the county it was issued in.

Cops have every right to check you out but have no grounds to arrest you if you have a permit.

So I'm walking through the mall and a cop says, "hey I see a bulge. do you have a gun?"

I'm sure that's not what you meant.
Must be printing very very badly to make it legal for them to ask. Then again most would comply.

 

[cedmer]

I don't know if you guys heard the story about a guy that was in the Galleria Mall in White Plains.
As he was walking in the food court during a crowded lunch hour there happened to be 2 While plains cops near by.
As he walked by they noticed he was printing. They stopped him and casually asked to see his permit.
He showed it to them and it had a Sportsman restriction.
They then asked him what what he doing in the mall.
He said "I'm HIKING". They gave him back his permit and told him to
get out of here and not to let them see him out of his restriction again.

I heard that same story .. but it was at Palisades Mall

 

[TopShot]

Let me get this straight.
My Sportsman restriction on my NYS Handgun license issued by Westchester County is only
in effect for Westchester County and the restriction is not in effect for the rest of the state.
Does it say that anywhere ?
If so I would like to print it out and keep a copy in my glove box.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Let me get this straight.
My Sportsman restriction on my NYS Handgun license issued by Westchester County is only
in effect for Westchester County and the restriction is not in effect for the rest of the state.
Does it say that anywhere ?
If so I would like to print it out and keep a copy in my glove box.

No. It's supposed to be for the whole state although restrictions aren't even mentioned in the Penal law.

 

[Jem45472]

No. It's supposed to be for the whole state although restrictions aren't even mentioned in the Penal law.

Which is to say that it is perfectly legal for you to carry in NY, as it only issues concealed carry permits. Having said that, if your judge should happen to find out that you were carrying beyond his restrictions, he may or may not revoke your permit.

 

[Phazer]

No. It's supposed to be for the whole state although restrictions aren't even mentioned in the Penal law.

Except, of course, in NYC which isn't really in New York State. But...heck... the state of New York isn't really in the United States as far as the Constitution is concerned.

 

[Cooolone]

Shall we discuss the fact that there is no such thing (Restricted) in the laws of NY State?

Got the Sportsman, then carry! Those two cops, yeah, it would be hard for them to explain what law was broken (none).
Yeah, the Judge could then deny renewal, or pull the license, but then he'd have a hard time explaining that too!
Fact is they have everyone programmed just the way they want it! The real question is what are you prepared to do if denied? Too many take the easy path!

Is all ridiculous because you "live" in Westchester and can't enjoy your Rights, I don't live there, but I can come visit you with all my carry glory and cheese doodle smile, hang out all day, go out and about, without any fanfare. That is the absurdity!

Easiest thing to do is move... I'm thinking of opening a Japanese style hotel with those people pods, kinda like a mausoleum but for the living ... I'll rent them out monthly, can be your domicile, I'll place it in the most friendly County in the State, this way everyone could enjoy their Rights!

 

[squib]

To the OP. Move to Dutchess, Sheriff Anderson has a lot of Sheepdogs

 

[ADK]

Let me get this straight.
My Sportsman restriction on my NYS Handgun license issued by Westchester County is only
in effect for Westchester County and the restriction is not in effect for the rest of the state.
Does it say that anywhere ?
If so I would like to print it out and keep a copy in my glove box.

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That is correct. The judge that signed your permit is a surrogate's court judge and his authority only covers the county in which he is a judge.

Don't expect me to do your research. Do it yourself.

 

[ADK]

Shall we discuss the fact that there is no such thing (Restricted) in the laws of NY State?

Got the Sportsman, then carry! Those two cops, yeah, it would be hard for them to explain what law was broken (none).
Yeah, the Judge could then deny renewal, or pull the license, but then he'd have a hard time explaining that too!
Fact is they have everyone programmed just the way they want it! The real question is what are you prepared to do if denied? Too many take the easy path! [/QUOTE
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Bamboozle them with BS and make them good little dweebs. I have never found a case or heard of one where a restricted permit holder ever had their license revoked for carrying with a restricted permit.

Here are the reasons you may lose your carry license.....

New York Consolidated Laws, Criminal Procedure Law - CPL § 530.14 | FindLaw

An Interesting case where a guy gets his license revoked for a DWI arrest but later gets it back.

Matter of Loesch

 

[ADK]

Bamboozle them with BS and make them good little dweebs. I have never found a case or heard of one where a restricted permit holder ever had their license revoked for carrying with a restricted permit.

Here are the reasons you may lose your carry license.....

New York Consolidated Laws, Criminal Procedure Law - CPL § 530.14 | FindLaw

An Interesting case where a guy gets his license revoked for a DWI arrest but later gets it back.

Matter of Loesch

 

[Marine Cpl]

Bamboozle them with BS and make them good little dweebs. I have never found a case or heard of one where a restricted permit holder ever had their license revoked for carrying with a restricted permit.

Here are the reasons you may lose your carry license.....

New York Consolidated Laws, Criminal Procedure Law - CPL § 530.14 | FindLaw

An Interesting case where a guy gets his license revoked for a DWI arrest but later gets it back.

Matter of Loesch

Yep. It's always the "I know a guy who neighbor's friend once heard." First they have to catch you which is extremely rare as a law abiding citizen. Then the cop has to go out of his way to contact the judge and tell him that he believes you weren't coming from the range, to the range, or from a hike.

 

[masterswimmer]

So I'm walking through the mall and a cop says, "hey I see a bulge. do you have a gun?"

And you respond, 'I don't know what you mean officer, I'm just happy to see you'.

 

[ADK]

Bad choice, displays weapon, loses license case.

Appeals court backs judge who revoked pistol permit