Huge shooting in Milwaukee as well. You guys here about that one?
Mass shooting in buffalo NY
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I hope you're right, and you may have a point. This state is already so repressive that there isn't much more they CAN do. However, in the court of public opinion, this may (likely) drive more elections in the direction of anti-gun proponents. Making it closer to home just solidifies the opposition's viewpoint at a time when I was hopeful that the SCOTUS would supersede the (un)Safe Act.
I am not saying they are not going to continue to fuck us and try to enact more infringements, just not due to only this.
I'm not sure it's possible to enact too many more infringements on rifles. All that's really left is a semi auto ban, and that would never fly. (Yet)
I worry about when NY loses the current SC case, what kind of carry restrictions will be coming down the pipeline.
I was also hoping for mag bans to be tossed eventually, but in today's climate I doubt that'll ever happen either.
dwa12479
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I really hate being so jaded in NYS that my first instinct is to call this a false flag rather than to be concerned for innocent victims and their families.
This all lines up WAY too perfectly for the leftist agenda.
This all lines up WAY too perfectly for the leftist agenda.
Hips and head. Hips first to stop the advance. Head to stop the threat.
"So now people that make this argument are the same as/support mass shooters."
Yep use the manifesto as exhibit 1 the shooter picked NY because of the strict anti gun laws put the honest citizen at a disadvantage.
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MuttCat
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There are things in this world that simply defy understanding. This story has hit close to home for me.
BerettaGuy
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This video is the “press conference” about the black gangs that got into a massive shootout during a street festival in Detroit.
The Police Chief starts to point out that these “urban youths” have no fear about carrying guns in a crowd and have no remorse about having a firefight with rivals in the middle of a crowded street festival. But! As she is looking out in the crowd of reporters and sees a deer in the headlight stare, she catches herself going off script and then pivots back to mention that legal gun owners leaving their guns in their cars is the problem.
WOOT Da Factual Phuc! Later the Mayor also chimes in with the standard gun control rhetoric and party line.
But alas the stark difference between the two cities is the Buffalo shooting was perpetrated by a white kid from a liberal bastion of deep-blue New York. Now there is a headline.
The question needs to be asked. Why are the lives of the black people being shot by thugs of lesser notoriety than the lives of people shot by a white liberal? I wonder if the white kid will get released with a ticket and a promise to appear in court?
The Police Chief starts to point out that these “urban youths” have no fear about carrying guns in a crowd and have no remorse about having a firefight with rivals in the middle of a crowded street festival. But! As she is looking out in the crowd of reporters and sees a deer in the headlight stare, she catches herself going off script and then pivots back to mention that legal gun owners leaving their guns in their cars is the problem.
WOOT Da Factual Phuc! Later the Mayor also chimes in with the standard gun control rhetoric and party line.
But alas the stark difference between the two cities is the Buffalo shooting was perpetrated by a white kid from a liberal bastion of deep-blue New York. Now there is a headline.
The question needs to be asked. Why are the lives of the black people being shot by thugs of lesser notoriety than the lives of people shot by a white liberal? I wonder if the white kid will get released with a ticket and a promise to appear in court?
Deplorable Me
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City Grill Massacre · B&ECPL Digital Collections
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Not Buffalo's first mass shooting. Guess it's not racist when it's gang related.
MuttCat
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The shooter was from Conklin, hardly a liberal bastion.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
The following is a complete accounting of all the firearms, magazines, and ammunition that was available to Adam Lanza on December 14, 2012. All of this material had been legally purchased by Nancy Lanza.
FIREARMS
Taken to Sandy Hook Elementary:
Izhmash Saiga 12-gauge semiautomatic shotgun
Bushmaster Model XM15-E2S .223-caliber semiautomatic rifle
SHARECOMMENT
From USA Today:
From USA Today:
Police are still trying to piece together exactly what happened in western New York on Christmas Eve, but they now say that it was that first gun—the Bushmaster .223 rifle—that Spengler most likely used to kill two volunteer firefights from long range and seriously wound two others on Christmas Eve, according to the New York Times.
If the name of that gun sounds familiar it is because it was the same make and caliber weapon that authorities say Adam Lanza used to kill 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn. on Dec. 14. Before that tragedy, the semi-automatic weapon also made headlines as one of the weapons allegedly brandished by James Holmes, who opened fire at a movie theater in Colorado this summer, and Jacob Tyler Roberts, who reportedly did the same at an Oregon shopping mall earlier this month. It was also the weapon of choice for John Allen Muhammed and Lee Boyd Malvo during the so-called Beltway Sniper Shootings of 2002.
Just find it interesting all the AR-15's are the same make ... even the same model
There is no such thing as a coincidence
FIREARMS
Taken to Sandy Hook Elementary:
Izhmash Saiga 12-gauge semiautomatic shotgun
Bushmaster Model XM15-E2S .223-caliber semiautomatic rifle
SHARECOMMENT
From USA Today:
From USA Today:
Police are still trying to piece together exactly what happened in western New York on Christmas Eve, but they now say that it was that first gun—the Bushmaster .223 rifle—that Spengler most likely used to kill two volunteer firefights from long range and seriously wound two others on Christmas Eve, according to the New York Times.
If the name of that gun sounds familiar it is because it was the same make and caliber weapon that authorities say Adam Lanza used to kill 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn. on Dec. 14. Before that tragedy, the semi-automatic weapon also made headlines as one of the weapons allegedly brandished by James Holmes, who opened fire at a movie theater in Colorado this summer, and Jacob Tyler Roberts, who reportedly did the same at an Oregon shopping mall earlier this month. It was also the weapon of choice for John Allen Muhammed and Lee Boyd Malvo during the so-called Beltway Sniper Shootings of 2002.
Just find it interesting all the AR-15's are the same make ... even the same model
There is no such thing as a coincidence
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
John Holmes I see had a S&W AR-15
spat
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The same thing all the rest of the deep state globalist are after.
Further erosion of the bill of rights.
The 2A is on life support, and the assault on the 1A is well underway.
This incident significantly furthers both interests.
Now, I'm not saying they're behind it, but I'm certain plenty of them were salivating as they read the headline.
spat
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In a dynamic situation like this, it's more like whatever piece of the target presents itself...
You're unlikely to get your choice.
FRANKIE
.308 Win
Yeah but fear not.
The law maker’s are on the scene.
Sounds like Hochul is fingering the Buffalo police commissioner for the shooting.
(paragraph 3)
In a statement, Gov. Kathy Hochul said she hopes Gramaglia will be held accountable for his action, including imprisonment for "the rest of his days."
apple.news
The law maker’s are on the scene.
Sounds like Hochul is fingering the Buffalo police commissioner for the shooting.
(paragraph 3)
In a statement, Gov. Kathy Hochul said she hopes Gramaglia will be held accountable for his action, including imprisonment for "the rest of his days."
Lawmakers react to Buffalo shooting that left 10 dead, 3 injured — Fox News
President Joe Biden, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul, and local lawmakers have reacted to the shooting incident in Buffalo Saturday afternoon that left 10 people and injured 13 others.
apple.news
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kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Looks like 'Ole Chompers isn't a fan of bail reform any more.Yeah but fear not.
The law maker’s are on the scene.
Sounds like Hochul is fingering the Buffalo police commissioner in paragraph 3
Lawmakers react to Buffalo shooting that left 10 dead, 3 injured — Fox News
President Joe Biden, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul, and local lawmakers have reacted to the shooting incident in Buffalo Saturday afternoon that left 10 people and injured 13 others.
Celt
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Wells, elections are coming, and so is the SCOTUS decision on pistol permitting... You know the leftists are happy as shit about this as they and their media shills will be pushing this for their benefit to keep power.
MuttCat
.223 Rem
Gramaglia is the Buffalo Chief of police???
FRANKIE
.308 Win
Thank you I’m glad someone picked up on that!!!! Lol!
Isn't the AR15 the most popular sporting rifle in the USA? That could just mean a statistically more significant chance of it being of that manufacturers firearms more than another's, and that particular firearm in general. ( simply, higher odds)The following is a complete accounting of all the firearms, magazines, and ammunition that was available to Adam Lanza on December 14, 2012. All of this material had been legally purchased by Nancy Lanza.
FIREARMS
Taken to Sandy Hook Elementary:
Izhmash Saiga 12-gauge semiautomatic shotgun
Bushmaster Model XM15-E2S .223-caliber semiautomatic rifle
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SHARECOMMENT
From USA Today:
From USA Today:
Police are still trying to piece together exactly what happened in western New York on Christmas Eve, but they now say that it was that first gun—the Bushmaster .223 rifle—that Spengler most likely used to kill two volunteer firefights from long range and seriously wound two others on Christmas Eve, according to the New York Times.
If the name of that gun sounds familiar it is because it was the same make and caliber weapon that authorities say Adam Lanza used to kill 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn. on Dec. 14. Before that tragedy, the semi-automatic weapon also made headlines as one of the weapons allegedly brandished by James Holmes, who opened fire at a movie theater in Colorado this summer, and Jacob Tyler Roberts, who reportedly did the same at an Oregon shopping mall earlier this month. It was also the weapon of choice for John Allen Muhammed and Lee Boyd Malvo during the so-called Beltway Sniper Shootings of 2002.
Just find it interesting all the AR-15's are the same make ... even the same model
There is no such thing as a coincidence
FRANKIE
.308 Win
I would definitely agree
Even more so (if they got the shooters name correct)
Very true, if you do get a choice the hips are a bigger target and less mobile.
Pissed Off Patriot
.223 Rem
Really, it should be easy enough to counter any leftist narrative about this shooting with logic. The only problem with logic is that the left doesn't use it.
"Shooter was white!"
Statistically, whites are less likely to be mass shooters. Whites are 76 percent of the U.S. population, but only commit 66 percent of mass shootings.
www.statista.com
"He was a racist MAGA supporter!"
From his very own manifesto: “On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category…” and reportedly expressed hatred for Fox News.
I could go on about how if more honest hard working Americans were legally armed, the shooter would have been taken down quicker, but you get the idea.
It remains to be seen how long this will be in the news cycle, but when it comes right down to it, all we have here is more leftist rage. The obvious solution is to ban leftists from owning guns. Talk about triggering the left. Bwaahahahhaa!
"Shooter was white!"
Statistically, whites are less likely to be mass shooters. Whites are 76 percent of the U.S. population, but only commit 66 percent of mass shootings.
Mass shootings by shooter’s race U.S. 2025| Statista
Between 1982 and August 2025, 84 out of the 155 mass shootings in the United States were carried out by white shooters.
www.statista.com
"He was a racist MAGA supporter!"
From his very own manifesto: “On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category…” and reportedly expressed hatred for Fox News.
I could go on about how if more honest hard working Americans were legally armed, the shooter would have been taken down quicker, but you get the idea.
It remains to be seen how long this will be in the news cycle, but when it comes right down to it, all we have here is more leftist rage. The obvious solution is to ban leftists from owning guns. Talk about triggering the left. Bwaahahahhaa!
It's not about did he need training. It's about was he trained. Again this whole thing smells rotten. It doesn't make sense, from his manifesto to his recon. Something isn't right.
Except the shooter wasn't white with a manifesto, ar15 and body armor.
I seen the beginning, no way wanted to see the rest, I still do not have the NZ video out of my head. I sadly watched that entire video.
That_FNG
.308 Win
In his manifesto he also shared imagery associated with ukraines azov battalion as well as expressed support for the US military’s involvement in the Ukraine war.Really, it should be easy enough to counter any leftist narrative about this shooting with logic. The only problem with logic is that the left doesn't use it.
"Shooter was white!"
Statistically, whites are less likely to be mass shooters. Whites are 76 percent of the U.S. population, but only commit 66 percent of mass shootings.
Mass shootings by shooter’s race U.S. 2025| Statista
Between 1982 and August 2025, 84 out of the 155 mass shootings in the United States were carried out by white shooters.
"He was a racist MAGA supporter!"
From his very own manifesto: “On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category…” and reportedly expressed hatred for Fox News.
I could go on about how if more honest hard working Americans were legally armed, the shooter would have been taken down quicker, but you get the idea.
It remains to be seen how long this will be in the news cycle, but when it comes right down to it, all we have here is more leftist rage. The obvious solution is to ban leftists from owning guns. Talk about triggering the left. Bwaahahahhaa!