Anti-2Aer in sheep's clothing says ^
Mass shooting in buffalo NY
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Anti-2Aer in sheep's clothing says ^
spat
.950 JDJ
I have seen the one that shows the first few shots. Is there one that shows where the guard engages him ?
Confirmed: Buffalo Suspect Wasn't Conservative, Also Despised Fox News, Greg Gutfeld, Ben Shapiro, Rupert Murdoch
The media jumps to wild conclusions about these mass murderers, and we often find out later that their biased impressions are not facts.
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As for the officer and his shooting, he shot exactly the way he was trained to shoot. He shot the same way that most departments teach as well as the Military.
Center mass. He could not know the level of armor this asshole was wearing. He got off rounds and was killed. Open or concealed carry would have made no difference in the position that he was employed as.
Now, an everyday White guy would have had a good opportunity to drop him, especially if concealed carrying.
Center mass. He could not know the level of armor this asshole was wearing. He got off rounds and was killed. Open or concealed carry would have made no difference in the position that he was employed as.
Now, an everyday White guy would have had a good opportunity to drop him, especially if concealed carrying.
Curious, I haven't watched, the guard take any form of cover, or did he run right out undergunned?
I am only going to speak in general terms in relation to this case and incident.
In time, all facts will come out.
spat
.950 JDJ
People always say that, but I think it's not true more often than not.
That_FNG
.308 Win
That’s why I do a variation of the failure to stop drill. One shot center mass, one shot head/neck and one shot lower anodized/groin.
As do I
spat
.950 JDJ
I am not faulting his training or tactics, since I haven't seen the video. I am also not suggesting that TOPS should have employed an undercover guard.
My comment was solely about the massive advantage of surprise you get by not advertising that you are armed.
The guards job was 99% to discourage trouble by projecting the appearance of power, for that it makes sense for him to be highly visible and advertise that he is armed.
But for the 1% of his job where he actually needs to employ that power, it would have been very advantageous for him to be able to be discreet.
Deplorable Me
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Sounds like an angry young man. Same behavior seen in angry black men, angry young Hispanic men......Confirmed: Buffalo Suspect Wasn't Conservative, Also Despised Fox News, Greg Gutfeld, Ben Shapiro, Rupert Murdoch
The media jumps to wild conclusions about these mass murderers, and we often find out later that their biased impressions are not facts.
Long covid lockdown and mental health issues? That coupled with the country going to shit. There's been a big tear in the social fabric of society.
I always expect a little nuts out there but the last two years is shaking them out of the trees. The frequency of random stupid bad shit is going to increase. Some people will get sucked into the vortex.
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Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
The video is 50% buffering/pixelated garbage for the bulk of the actual event. If the security guard/former cop was in blue/black shorts then IMO he brought a pistol to a rifle fight and failed to use any sort of cover or concealment, total Doc Holiday shit. Like I said, its a craptacular section of the video, one cannot tell what the hell is going on, literally a couple of shitty frames to make a judgement. Since it all happened in the front end of the store there is bound to be tons of security footage that we will never see.
The asshole actually skipped over white people and moved along.
It's very unfortunate that none of them were carrying and shot him in the back of the neck/head when he moved on.
livingston
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The security guard who attempted to stop a mass shooter in Buffalo is Aaron Salter Aaron Salter attempted to stop the shooter by firing at the shooter, Payton Gendron. However, Gendron was wearing body armor and was not harmed by the shot. Gendron returned fire, killing Salter
On August 9, 2019, Aaron Salter III responded on Facebook to an August 3, 2019, shooting at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, that left 23 people dead.
maverick52
.223 Rem
Well said. Every time we hope to get a lift of some restrictions, some nut job randomly pops up.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Looks like the security guard used what he had at the time. to try to neutralize the threat. ...He did what is today a textbook response for law enforcement. ... Engage as soon as possible. We all know if he had a rifle in his car and went to retrieve it while folks were dying he would have been criticized . Hero as a term is too often thrown around in our society ... This man was a true hero .. Standing up to evil... Satan
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
There is no such thing as a coincidence my friend .
maverick52
.223 Rem
Hochul said they are announcing new legislation they’ve been planning on Tuesday.
But of course they are.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Last year the 18-year-old shooter Payton Gendron sparked a police investigation when he indicated he wanted to do a mass shooting at a graduation ceremony or after.
This led to a referral for the troubled teen to a mental health evaluation.
The Gateway Pundit spoke with a former top police officer in New York state. We were told Gendron should have never been sold a firearm in the state.
Gendron was later able to purchase firearms in the state.
“A school official reported that this very troubled young man had made statements indicating that he wanted to do a shooting, either at a graduation ceremony, or sometime after,” a government official familiar with the case told the paper.
Buffalo Market Killer Threatened to Shoot Up High School Last Year -- Sparked a State Police Investigation, Referral to Counseling | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
18-year-old Payton Gendron shot and killed 10 people at a Buffalo supermarket Saturday afternoon.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
maverick52
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The shooter was clearly a disturbed man. Ever since Columbine we get one of these defects of humanity pop up. They exist and should be codemned and punished. What gets us the 2A community in knots is how the left wants to conflate these incidents with conservatives and take away our gun rights. Two mass shootigns this weekend happened in CA and NY which have the strictest gun laws in the country. No amount of gun laws will stop these events short of a total gun ban. In the same way no amount of gun laws will stop the street crime in our inner cities. I feel for the community of Buffalo who are reeling from this incident. We can’t imagine the horror of living through something like that. But I think we are all fed up with progressive politicians and gun grabbers blaming guns and republicans instead of blaming the individual. They exploit these events for their own political gain.
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
Absolutely true. The guy fought it out knowing he was outmatched when he could have hid and cowered.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Folks . We have a system in place to prevent someone with mental issues from getting guns. . If a person says he has a desire to shoot up a school ... gets interviewed by our law enforcement agency ... Mind you this was no jay walking issue..For certain the State police has a trained staff .. even an entire department committed to looking into this issue . Everyone it seems gets put on lists ,, By our government... How did this person NOT make the list to FAIL a background check.
I throw this out to you folks.
Should a person be denied his 2nd because he has say a fantasy to commit mass murder. ?.. Would this not be the same as someone who wants to be a day care worker....During the interview for employment mention they have a sexual attraction for a child ? Thus being enough reason not to hire them.
Should someone in the state police system be held accountable for not seeing that this shooter cannot pass a NICS Check. .. Perhaps the blkame is at the NICS office for not entering this information into the system ...We will never know the answer.
We however feel the repercussions .. More laws against gun owners. I have said this before .. The person shooting the fireman in Webster .. Years ago... Pushed his grand mother down the cellar steps and beat her with a hammer over 60 times in the head .. Evil as they come .. right... And someone set him free .. Should have been doing life without parole ... They set him free to kill again... Cuomo used this shooting as a justification to implement the SAFE Act...
Folks one can have all the laws in the world ... Everything fails if common sense does not prevail...
Of course .. If one was in a mind to destroy the 2nd .. Allowing these folks to do their evil .. Na that would not happen ... would it ?
I throw this out to you folks.
Should a person be denied his 2nd because he has say a fantasy to commit mass murder. ?.. Would this not be the same as someone who wants to be a day care worker....During the interview for employment mention they have a sexual attraction for a child ? Thus being enough reason not to hire them.
Should someone in the state police system be held accountable for not seeing that this shooter cannot pass a NICS Check. .. Perhaps the blkame is at the NICS office for not entering this information into the system ...We will never know the answer.
We however feel the repercussions .. More laws against gun owners. I have said this before .. The person shooting the fireman in Webster .. Years ago... Pushed his grand mother down the cellar steps and beat her with a hammer over 60 times in the head .. Evil as they come .. right... And someone set him free .. Should have been doing life without parole ... They set him free to kill again... Cuomo used this shooting as a justification to implement the SAFE Act...
Folks one can have all the laws in the world ... Everything fails if common sense does not prevail...
Of course .. If one was in a mind to destroy the 2nd .. Allowing these folks to do their evil .. Na that would not happen ... would it ?
More kneejerk reactions are exactly what we need.
You either are a part of our society or not. Either you have all rights or you have none. No picking and choosing. If this person was not fit enough to own a firearm then he probably wasn't fit enough to be walking the streets.
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
Take the quiz! Why is "Groping Joe" and Doctor Jill coming to Buffalo!
A.) The DNC has been waiting years for this opportunity and is pissed that it took this long.
B.) The DNC thinks Americans are "stoopid" and that this will galvanize them into a huge voting block in November.
C.) As "stoopid" as the DNC thinks Americans are, they think Black Americans are even "stoopider" and this incident paves the way for the overwhelming support and mass voter registration.
D.) The DNC is out to divide America!
E.) All of the above.
nypost.com
A.) The DNC has been waiting years for this opportunity and is pissed that it took this long.
B.) The DNC thinks Americans are "stoopid" and that this will galvanize them into a huge voting block in November.
C.) As "stoopid" as the DNC thinks Americans are, they think Black Americans are even "stoopider" and this incident paves the way for the overwhelming support and mass voter registration.
D.) The DNC is out to divide America!
E.) All of the above.
Biden headed to Buffalo on Tuesday following massacre
President Biden will reportedly travel to Buffalo on Tuesday in the wake of Saturday’s hate-fueled massacre there.
nypost.com