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Trump derelict for not calling off Jan 6th mob
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spat
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So, you are claiming that the Jan 6th protestors goal was for Nancy Pelosi to ascend to the office of POTUS when Trump and Pence's term expired on Jan 20th ?
That's what would happen if the electoral votes were not certified. Trump and Pence's terms expired that day. The only way for then to keep their office would be for the electoral college to vote them into a second term.
Stopping the electoral college from voting for Biden (as the protestors were trying to do) would put Pelosi into office.
That does not a coup make.
spat
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That's not what happens if the college doesn't vote.
If the Jan 6th protestors had gotten what they want then Nancy Pelosi would have become POTUS on Jan20th automatically.
See my post above.
spat
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Nope, once again, that's not how any of this works.
Acer-m14
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hey Ronstar .. BTW ..
ronstar
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By that logic it would have been moral & legal to lead an insurrection against the USA in order to abolish slavery or give women the right to vote.hey Ronstar .. BTW ..
Do you agree?
Acer-m14
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the govt wasn't destructive then ..
Really?
Sure about that?
Got any proof?
There is not a single shred of evidence to show that the Jan 6th protesters were armed. None. The only people armed were the capital police who FIRED ON UNARMED PEOPLE.
That was the only death in the entire event. An unarmed woman was gunned down by a capital police officer/security schlep.
livingston
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Time to close this chapter folks . We are dealing with a troll or even a government official goading us into making comments that would be used in the case to deny you a new permit ... Keep this in mind for future discussions . We will get hit with many trolls trying to goad us into making one comment that could be used in that denial.
In communist china Someone wrote a poem in their home. "the sky is blue " .. Mao said once "the sky is red." The Red guard found the poem and hauled that person before the court as a "capitalist roader " .. Just writing a poem ruined this persons life.
livingston
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ronstar
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No, they wanted to force Congress to not certify the Electoral Votes from the 6 states, thereby giving Trump the win.
ronstar
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Yes there is evidence that some of the rioters were armed. We have all seen the photo of the guy with zip ties.
ronstar
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So you're saying it WAS the goal of the rioters to force a change in the Electoral count?
Gotcha.
ronstar
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Wrong.
- Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer as rioters tried to breach the House chamber.
- Benjamin Philips, the founder of a pro-Trump website called Trumparoo, died of a stroke.
Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob, died on Jan. 7."
These Are the People Who Died in Connection With the Capitol Riot (Published 2022)
A bipartisan Senate report found that at least seven people had lost their lives in connection with the Jan. 6 attack.
Seems some folks really are lost.
Your like minded comrades are here ->. Democratic Underground
You’re welcome.
Your like minded comrades are here ->. Democratic Underground
You’re welcome.
ronstar
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Naaa, they are too radical and extreme for me. But thanks.
Saltwater60
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So a zip tie is now an armament?
ronstar
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It sure ain't for peaceful purposes. I wonder who he planned on detaining. Pence? Pelosi? Schumer? AOC?
Saltwater60
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You said they were armed and brought up a zip tie. You fail to answer the actual question. Is a zip tie an armament? I never said it was for tying up a bouquet for Nancy Pelosi but saying they were armed with a zip tie doesn’t indicate to me they were armed. Yes maybe they were but it doesn’t seem like they used them if they had them. Liberals like to walk around questions to avoid answering them and make it seem like they are right, this is a great example of that.
holdover
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What in Heavens name are you taking about? A few Rioters had arms? Dont you think for a minute they would need a few more to conduct an ""armed "" insurrection? Dont you think that would have required piles of magazines? Food? water? Medical aid kits?? . Vests helmets canteens water sources? Dont you think they would have not gone home by 6 PM? They might have stayed for a while? Can you Identify any planning whatsoever? Can you show proof of more then 10 people with rifles? A guy in a Buffalo hat? Are you for real??
Did you forget?
Protests broke out near the White House on Saturday, with demonstrators pushing down multiple security barricades and some clashing with police, according to multiple reports.
Demonstrators protested over police brutality and the killing of George Floyd, a 46-year-old unarmed black man who died in police custody on Monday.
WTOP reporter Alejandro Alvarez shared video from the scene Saturday, showing protesters pushing against a crowd of police officers.
The protests mark the second violent clash between law enforcement and protesters in as many days, The Washington Post reported. Hundreds of demonstrators gathered at the Capitol on Saturday afternoon and moved toward the White House.
Protesters pushed against barriers on Pennsylvania Avenue and the riot shields of Secret Service agents, according to the Post. Several Secret Service vehicles were damaged.
Officers were also seen swinging riot batons and firing pepper spray projectiles. National Guard trucks were also deployed Saturday evening.
Secret Service and U.S. Park Police officers in riot gear were at the scene of the protests, according to WUSA9.
Friday night, more than 1,000 demonstrators marched on Pennsylvania Avenue into the early hours of Saturday morning, according to the Post. They dispersed after Secret Service agents fired chemical agents.
The Secret Service said in a statement on Twitter that it made six arrests during the protests that began on Friday.
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) shared video of the protest earlier Saturday in which protesters can be heard chanting, “Hands up, don’t shoot!”
Outrage reverberated through the country after bystander video captured former officer Derek Chauvin pinning Floyd down behind a police car with his knee on Floyd’s neck. Floyd can be heard in the video pleading for air and telling the officer that he could not breathe. In the moments following, Floyd’s body goes limp. He was pronounced dead 90 minutes after his arrest.
The protest in Washington, D.C., comes as demonstrations, many of which have turned violent, raged on this week to speak out against the killing of Floyd.
The Friday protests prompted the White House to go on lockdown for a brief period.
Saturday morning, President Trump praised the Secret Service for its efforts to secure the White House. On the same day, Trump lobbed criticism at D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser (D), claiming that she is “always looking for money & help,” according to a post on Twitter. He also asserted that Bowser did not allow D.C. police officers to get involved in the confrontation outside the building.
The Post later reported that the D.C. Metro Police had in fact been present at the protest to assist the Secret Service.
Updated 8:10 p.m.
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Protesters knock down White House security barricades as tensions mount over Floyd’s death
Protests broke out near the White House on Saturday, with demonstrators pushing down multiple security barricades and some clashing with police, according to multiple reports.Demonstrators proteste…
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ronstar
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Several protestors were arrested and charged with firearms offenses.
ronstar
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I never stated that it was an "armed insurrection".
It was a violent mob attempting to subvert the Constitution. Call it an insurrection? Sure.
holdover
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Take a good fucking look at the real insurrectionists, notice what symbol is on the shield?
ronstar
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if these "people" tried to break into the US Capital Building, they would have been all shot dead.
and btw, that symbol is no worse than this one:
holdover
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Ok fair enough, the media is calling it that.
If it was a mob , then it wasnt a planned insurrection by the president because by definition, a Mob isnt planned.
holdover
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Ok??if these "people" tried to break into the US Capital Building, they would have been all shot dead.
and btw, that symbol is no worse than this one:
That symbol is not related to the millions who were killed under it
ronstar
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Trump planned and worked hard to encourage his followers to come to Capital Hill and force Congress to subvert the Constitutionally-mandated Electoral count. Did he use the words "violence"? No, Did he urge them to fight hard? Yes.
If I was the DOJ would I charge Trump with incitement? I might, still not sure.
ronstar
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Hundreds of thousands of Americans died due to that symbol of hate and evil, and all that is represented.
holdover
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Officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes after defending Capitol on January 6, medical examiner says
Sicknick was previously believed to have died from injuries sustained during the riot.
www.cbsnews.com
Wrong.
- Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer as rioters tried to breach the House chamber.
- Benjamin Philips, the founder of a pro-Trump website called Trumparoo, died of a stroke.
Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob, died on Jan. 7."
These Are the People Who Died in Connection With the Capitol Riot (Published 2022)
A bipartisan Senate report found that at least seven people had lost their lives in connection with the Jan. 6 attack.www.nytimes.com
In connection to the Jan 6th?
So, two people actually died, a Veteran who was murdered and Benjamin, died of a stroke.
No others died that day at the event?