McCarthy will be the offical Speaker of the House by the nights end

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GOPerfect said:
This is one of the proposed rules that is part of the package, this package is more than likely going to pass.

Add to the requirements - a bill must stand alone - no b/s, no pork. If there is something that ties in directly with the subject of the bill it can be attached but nothing else!
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I don't think anyone can estimate the importance of this particular rule. The last Omnibus bullshit should have sent up a red flare. There was at least a half a billion dollars in pork complete bullshit in that bill.
 
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I do think it's important to note, that democrats should change their name to DRONES. They are in Lockstep with their leadership.

If pelosi says "vote for this bill" every single drone will vote for that bill. This is why the drones look like they know what they are doing. They follow their leader right off a cliff. pelosi is the Jim Jones of the congress
 
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GOPerfect said:
This is one of the proposed rules that is part of the package, this package is more than likely going to pass.

Add to the requirements - a bill must stand alone - no b/s, no pork. If there is something that ties in directly with the subject of the bill it can be attached but nothing else!
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I was ecstatic to see this in the rules package. It blows my mind the amount of pork that gets rammed into bills.

They stuff $100B for Gender Studies grants in a bill titled "The Saving Puppies Act" and if you vote no then "Republicans are puppy murderers!!"
 
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Whether you like McCarthy or not, to me those sound good and we shall see,
but of course democrats didn't cheer any of it. Apparently they disagree.
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Of couse they didn't like it. It could end up taking their toys away.
 
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This effectively neuters McCarthy. The original 20 have a pact that if McCarthy does anything outside his promises, they will vote to not retain and he’s gone.

The rest of the rules package would mark the first time HRC would have independent authority from leadership in over 60 years—good for accountability and the public.
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When I first read this, I thought what the F does Hillary Rodham Clinton (HRC) have to do with this!! LOL!!! MY BAD!!!!
 
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From the following: Here Are The Concessions McCarthy Had To Make For Speakership | ZeroHedge

A list of some of what has been roughly negotiated to date. The devil, as always, is in the details.
  1. As has been reported, it will only take a single congressperson, acting in what is known as a Jeffersonian Motion, to move to remove the Speaker if he or she goes back on their word or policy agenda.
  2. A “Church” style committee will be convened to look into the weaponization of the FBI and other government organizations (presumably the CIA, the subject of the original Church Committee) against the American people.
  3. Term limits will be put up for a vote.
  4. Bills presented to Congress will be single subject, not omnibus with all the attendant earmarks, and there will be a 72-hour minimum period to read them.
  5. The Texas Border Plan will be put before Congress. From The Hill: “The four-pronged plan aims to ‘Complete Physical Border Infrastructure,’ ‘Fix Border Enforcement Policies,’ ‘Enforce our Laws in the Interior’ and ‘Target Cartels & Criminal Organizations.'”
  6. COVID mandates will be ended as will all funding for them, including so-called “emergency funding.”
  7. Budget bills would stop the endless increases in the debt ceiling and hold the Senate accountable for the same.
 
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tirwin1 said:
From the following: Here Are The Concessions McCarthy Had To Make For Speakership | ZeroHedge

A list of some of what has been roughly negotiated to date. The devil, as always, is in the details.
  1. As has been reported, it will only take a single congressperson, acting in what is known as a Jeffersonian Motion, to move to remove the Speaker if he or she goes back on their word or policy agenda.
  2. A “Church” style committee will be convened to look into the weaponization of the FBI and other government organizations (presumably the CIA, the subject of the original Church Committee) against the American people.
  3. Term limits will be put up for a vote.
  4. Bills presented to Congress will be single subject, not omnibus with all the attendant earmarks, and there will be a 72-hour minimum period to read them.
  5. The Texas Border Plan will be put before Congress. From The Hill: “The four-pronged plan aims to ‘Complete Physical Border Infrastructure,’ ‘Fix Border Enforcement Policies,’ ‘Enforce our Laws in the Interior’ and ‘Target Cartels & Criminal Organizations.'”
  6. COVID mandates will be ended as will all funding for them, including so-called “emergency funding.”
  7. Budget bills would stop the endless increases in the debt ceiling and hold the Senate accountable for the same.
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These are all good things. It was worth the holdout.
 
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tirwin1 said:
From the following: Here Are The Concessions McCarthy Had To Make For Speakership | ZeroHedge

A list of some of what has been roughly negotiated to date. The devil, as always, is in the details.
  1. As has been reported, it will only take a single congressperson, acting in what is known as a Jeffersonian Motion, to move to remove the Speaker if he or she goes back on their word or policy agenda.
  2. A “Church” style committee will be convened to look into the weaponization of the FBI and other government organizations (presumably the CIA, the subject of the original Church Committee) against the American people.
  3. Term limits will be put up for a vote.
  4. Bills presented to Congress will be single subject, not omnibus with all the attendant earmarks, and there will be a 72-hour minimum period to read them.
  5. The Texas Border Plan will be put before Congress. From The Hill: “The four-pronged plan aims to ‘Complete Physical Border Infrastructure,’ ‘Fix Border Enforcement Policies,’ ‘Enforce our Laws in the Interior’ and ‘Target Cartels & Criminal Organizations.'”
  6. COVID mandates will be ended as will all funding for them, including so-called “emergency funding.”
  7. Budget bills would stop the endless increases in the debt ceiling and hold the Senate accountable for the same.
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No mention of the release of the J6 farce hearings?
 
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I could care less what was agreed upon to win over the 20 hold outs to put the next globalist in as Speaker. After decades of seeing the Elephant party forget their promises and renege on everything they supposedly stand for (whether their own personal "principles" or the party plank), I won't believe any good will come of this bullshit until I see the proof in the pudding.

Talk is cheap, and I don't expect this Congress to do anything meaningful with regards to what this nation was founded on, what our Founding documents mean, anything that is good for the nation based on sound principles, or anything decent, moral, or thoughtful to come from the lying scum who pretend to represent anyone but themselves.
 
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John Stark said:
I could care less what was agreed upon to win over the 20 hold outs to put the next globalist in as Speaker. After decades of seeing the Elephant party forget their promises and renege on everything they supposedly stand for (whether their own personal "principles" or the party plank), I won't believe any good will come of this bullshit until I see the proof in the pudding.

Talk is cheap, and I don't expect this Congress to do anything meaningful with regards to what this nation was founded on, what our Founding documents mean, anything that is good for the nation based on sound principles, or anything decent, moral, or thoughtful to come from the lying scum who pretend to represent anyone but themselves.
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Agreed. Its a good start, need the follow through.
 
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Yes, but even if he follows through and the house does all these things, with regard to term limits, omni bus bills etc., the Senate would still have to vote and the President still has to sign.
 
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John Stark said:
I could care less what was agreed upon to win over the 20 hold outs to put the next globalist in as Speaker. After decades of seeing the Elephant party forget their promises and renege on everything they supposedly stand for (whether their own personal "principles" or the party plank), I won't believe any good will come of this bullshit until I see the proof in the pudding.

Talk is cheap, and I don't expect this Congress to do anything meaningful with regards to what this nation was founded on, what our Founding documents mean, anything that is good for the nation based on sound principles, or anything decent, moral, or thoughtful to come from the lying scum who pretend to represent anyone but themselves.
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I absolutely agree with this. I am hoping that this tiny Ray of sunlight, will turn into a full sunny day. Of course I am skeptical and I am not holding my breath to see if this actually does anything good.
 
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ArmedCorgi said:
Yes, but even if he follows through and the house does all these things, with regard to term limits, omni bus bills etc., the Senate would still have to vote and the President still has to sign.
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The house can't push anything by itself, but it *can* stop things by themselves.


I'd like to see some candidates just *run* on a platform of shutting things down LOL.
 
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i think this is the fist time in many many many years

that i seen that many people in the House to vote on something ...

Can the Rules Committee make that new Rule

that everyone has to be there in person to vote on a bill ...

that would be a nice thing to do ..
 
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spat said:
The house can't push anything by itself, but it *can* stop things by themselves.


I'd like to see some candidates just *run* on a platform of shutting things down LOL.
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This will be interesting to see. Let's just assume the republicans abide by these new rules and actually do what they say. All legislation has to be passed by the senate which is controlled by the dems. What "compromises" will be made so that a bill can pass both chambers? My guess is the gang of 20 can hold out all they want but the 200 odd dems and a majority of the swamp republicans will show them what real politics is.
 
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tirwin1 said:
This will be interesting to see. Let's just assume the republicans abide by these new rules and actually do what they say. All legislation has to be passed by the senate which is controlled by the dems. What "compromises" will be made so that a bill can pass both chambers? My guess is the gang of 20 can hold out all they want but the 200 odd dems and a majority of the swamp republicans will show them what real politics is.
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All spending bills must originate in the house.

Imagine they stop the "one massive omnibus spend bill that must pass by midnight" crap, and start just funding things piecemeal for long durations.

They should take the non controversial budget items and pass them for 5 years ahead of time, in multiple small bills.

Then when the budget crunch comes down, all the important stuff is already funded, and people can look at the pork fest that's left and just say "nope, we don't care if that doesn't pass ever"
 
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They should take the non controversial budget items and pass them for 5 years ahead of time.
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Only if whatever is left over year to year over those five years gets reinvested in the country and not wasted by agencies so they can keep their budgets.
 
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Hello Kayetriot,

I got a photo the other day from my friend Aaron Bean who FINALLY got sworn in as the newest Congressman from Florida.

He'd been waiting an extra-long time because, well, there was some disagreement over who would become Speaker of the House. That was resolved Friday night. (See my special Saturday morning "Mark Kaye Saves the Republic Podcast" for all the gory details.) And on Sunday I received a pic of Aaron smiling in the chambers.

You go boy!

And, while many people are despondent that Kevin McCarthy finally won the gavel and will be running things for the slim Republican majority, I am here to reassure you that, while Kevin McCarthy holds the gavel, he will NOT be running things.

The 20 holdout republicans pushing for massive rules changes got everything they wanted.

It took a week, and 15 rounds of voting, but they successfully neutered Kevin McCarthy.

Straight jacket firmly in tact!

I'm not going to go through every single rule that they managed to put in place to shift power away from the Speaker and back to the members, I'll do a deep dive on that during my show today. But rest assured one thing is certain...

Kevin McCarthy is the "Republican Joe Biden."

Much like Joe Biden is a puppet President who just does what the people who truly hold the power tell him to do, so will Kevin McCarthy.

He has no choice.

He may as well just sit in his basement all day eating Ice Cream and wetting himself the way Joe does. He can pop his head out every now and then, make a speech, bang the gavel, and then "Peace out" back to the cave of obscurity now known as The Speaker's office.

The 20 conservative holdouts were able to stuff the RINO like some hunter who is going to display it as a trophy in his massive man cave.

The whole process gave me hope.

Conservatives are changing.

Now, hopefully, they can get the rest of the party to fall in line and understand what these 20 courageous conservatives already know...

THE OLD GOP IS DEAD! Long live the new Republican Party!
 
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GOPerfect said:
Apparently, McCarthy has also agreed to release ALL footage and testimony of the J6 hearings.
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I think this is a good thing. I always was of the opinion it should be open to the public.

GOPerfect said:
This is one of the proposed rules that is part of the package, this package is more than likely going to pass.

Add to the requirements - a bill must stand alone - no b/s, no pork. If there is something that ties in directly with the subject of the bill it can be attached but nothing else!
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This rule is far far overdue.
 
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McCarthy looks like an older version of Howard Hamlin from Better Call Saul. Just as big of a drip too.
 
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