GOYABEAN
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NYSP Arrested A West Virginia Man For Possessing Two Handguns!
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pjzwtl
.308 Win
Poor bastard he should have not strayed from free America
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The Police in this state are not your friends. Period.
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Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
It may have been the Taurus.
How did they discover the weapons?
Another example of why you only break one law at a time.
Another example of why you only break one law at a time.
Celt
.338 Win Mag
So a potentially law abiding citizen from one state goes to jail in ny for a law that is unconstitutional. Yep, welkome to new yorkistan
Snappo
6.5 Creedmoor
Two possibilities:
1) He contacted the State Police in the 10 or so states he was going to drive through, learned the law, and said fuck it and drove with the weapons anyway.
2) He didn't bother and just figured whatever the gun laws are in one state must be the same as the other 49 states.
I am a proponent of weak federal and strong states; just like Jefferson and Hamilton were. OTOH, just like a drivers license works in all states so too should a CCW. So I have mixed feelings on reciprocity.
1) He contacted the State Police in the 10 or so states he was going to drive through, learned the law, and said fuck it and drove with the weapons anyway.
2) He didn't bother and just figured whatever the gun laws are in one state must be the same as the other 49 states.
I am a proponent of weak federal and strong states; just like Jefferson and Hamilton were. OTOH, just like a drivers license works in all states so too should a CCW. So I have mixed feelings on reciprocity.
Snappo
6.5 Creedmoor
Which law is unconstitutional? Not being allowed to own a pistol without a CCW? I believe the NY State Constitution allows for laws more restrictive than federal law; and assume that these restrictive laws have gone to the state or federal Supreme Court.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The one that infringes on your right to keep and carry arms that is passed on a state level.
Magnus
6.5 Creedmoor
Sucks. He should have downloaded the CCW APP. He would have known what was coming.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
The one that infringes on your right to keep and bear arms.
This man had no way to legally bear a pistol in NY, a right that SCOTUS recognizes as protected by the constitution.
You can't make the argument that he should have jumped through the hoops that the rest of us do, he was not allowed to even attempt it.
4excal
.338 Win Mag
Maybe he doesn't keep up on current events and he just "assumed" that it was all good everywhere in the his one Country..
Greywolf224
6.5 Creedmoor
I'm curious was he passing through New York State or was this his final destination with these two firearms?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That would make a difference if they were locked and unloaded.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Or allowed a search. My guess is that he was afraid and admitted it.Good question but maybe if he wasn't speeding there wouldn't have been a issue
Greywolf224
6.5 Creedmoor
I read through the article very quick. But I don't remember it stating that they were locked and unloaded. Were they?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Didn't say.
Greywolf224
6.5 Creedmoor
If he was heading north from West Virginia And he was traveling through NY, where exactly was he legally going to while not stopping, Maine?
Listen I may not like the laws like the rest of us, but the laws are the laws and no matter how much we fight them if we break the law we will chance being arrested.
I'm thinking he was looking to sell.
Listen I may not like the laws like the rest of us, but the laws are the laws and no matter how much we fight them if we break the law we will chance being arrested.
I'm thinking he was looking to sell.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Yeah it totally sucks, but it's his own fault. If you are traveling with a firearm, KNOW THE LAWS OF THE LAND in which you are traveling! Even if you don't agree with them, still need to follow them. I would never carry in NJ, because I'm not allowed to, don't want to get arrested and don't want to lose my right to carry / possess a firearm.
Greywolf224
6.5 Creedmoor
Also keep in mind if you buy ammo in Pennsylvania and coming back to New York through New Jersey. Make sure you do not have any hollow points with you. Just as bad as having an unlicensed firearm.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Or if you choose to ignore these gun laws in places like Jersey, know your other rights. Don't consent to any searches and if asked if you have any firearms, say no.
A routine car stop for speeding or running a stop sign should only end in a ticket at the very most if you aren't shaking and babbling like an idiot when stopped.
A routine car stop for speeding or running a stop sign should only end in a ticket at the very most if you aren't shaking and babbling like an idiot when stopped.
Some of the best advice I would give is, DO NOT CONSENT TO A SEARCH!
Second piece of advice, KNOW THE LAWS (as many as possible) OF THE STATES YOU ARE GOING TO TRAVEL TO WITH YOUR GUNS!!1
Second piece of advice, KNOW THE LAWS (as many as possible) OF THE STATES YOU ARE GOING TO TRAVEL TO WITH YOUR GUNS!!1
Twingy
.40 S&W
You shouldn't be ambivalent about this, no state has the right to infringe on a constitutionally protected right.
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That's not true. They only cannot be carried in firearms. Hollow points are not illegal in NJ. They can be used on ranges and according to my cousin, loaded in firearms in one's home.
Celt
.338 Win Mag
So are you in support of an unconstitutional law that infringes on the 2nd Amendment?
Do you support a violation of your 4th amendment rights when you have to apply for a " permit" to exercise a right?
You do realize that many states now have constitutional carry. This is a clear and fundamental interpretation of the intent of the Second Amendment. It clearly demonstrates that any permitting laws that are on the books are an infringement on the Second Amendment and therefore unconstitutional by default.
The Sullivan Act of 1911 is when New York got its permitting laws on the books. This law was passed with a clear intent , through Tammany Hall, to restrict the Italians from having guns. So this law was started with a disengenuine intent, and should not have been allowed to stand for over 100 years.
Greywolf224
6.5 Creedmoor
Did not know this. Thank you
Eddie Gunks
.338 Win Mag
Just as airborne guy noted above hollow points are not illegal in New jersey.
They become illegal if you are in possession of hollowpoint ammunition while you are committing another crime. Then they add the hollow points to the charges. ie: if you're robbing a liquor store with no gun, but you have a pocket full of hollow points they will charge you with the hollow points because you were had them in your pocket while you were committing another crime, robbery.
Snappo
6.5 Creedmoor
I'm not a Juris Doctor and am not academically credentialed in Constitutional Law. I support a government where legislators make laws and judicial branch judges determine if the laws are legal and constitutional. Unless someone is a constitutional lawyer I would think they support the process of checks and balances.
If some fucking window licker loads two sidearms, puts them in a vehicle, and drives across a dozen states without checking the laws of that dozen states, he's doing it wrong and was dressed like he wanted it. Maybe he likes that Rikers Island black dick?