According to the article the gun wasn't "re-registered". He didn't renew his NYC long gun permit. If he didn't register it in a first place, he would still have his gun. Once you register it, they will breath down your neck for the rest of your natural life and take it away at the first slip up. After you leave this world they will harass your wife, who is too old to handle the sale of it by the book and will in many cases just surrender the firearms to the local precinct.
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According to the article the gun wasn't "re-registered". He didn't renew his NYC long gun permit. If he didn't register it in a first place, he would still have his gun. Once you register it, they will breath down your neck for the rest of your natural life and take it away at the first slip up. After you leave this world they will harass your wife, who is too old to handle the sale of it by the book and will in many cases just surrender the firearms to the local precinct.
@thewheels
.308 Win
So he can get the rifle back after he re-registers? They're just holding it for him?
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Sounds like the cops made the best of a bad situation. Good on them!
It's still a rotten apple, maybe registering free speech will be next.
Robin
It's still a rotten apple, maybe registering free speech will be next.
Robin
He can depending on how the DV aspect plays out.
The tweets are stupid, the captains do that. I have refused to be in a few pictures when it has happened here.
It will take legal action to get anything back. The value of that firearm or most firearm collections are not worth the legal fees. Most people will just say fuck it, I will just buy another rifle(s) and they can keep my permit and choke on it. Not a lot of incentive to pay permit fees for the privilege to have your legal property stolen from under you.
@thewheels
.308 Win
Yeah, there's only a few firearms that I own that have sentimental value to me. The stuff that's been passed down through the generations would lead me to lawyer up and get it back.
Incorrect in this case. He can easily get it back by re-registering as long as the DV case is cleared. It can all be done directly through the license division which will then release it from the property clerk.
He already broke the law by failing to renew his permit, he can kiss his permit good buy. Plus DV case that can be used against him by firearms gestapo. No one will give him his gun back unless ordered by the court. Even if the gun was registered they will not give it back voluntarily. Nassau county is just as bad, but no requirement for long gun permit makes gun retention a little safer.
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I literally know what I said above for a fact, so...
I get that you're all beat down, we all are, and I get that there are horror stories out there, but what I said is 100% factual. It's a routine process here. He did not break a law, that's why he wasn't arrested. NYC's long gun permits are local administrative codes. One cannot be arrested for them. Since the gun was inside the home, he can't even receive a criminal court summons, IE, a ticket. This is why technically an upstate FFL can sell a long gun to a city resident who doesn't possess a NYC rifle shotgun permit (good luck finding one who will).
So again,
As long as the DV checks out (I doubt this stemmed from a DV crime as then someone wouldn't have been in that house due to an OOP), he calls the license division, gets his permit reinstated, license division edits voucher to allow release, he goes to property clerk (want the address?) and picks it up.
I don't talk out of my ass on here like many others do.
I get that you're all beat down, we all are, and I get that there are horror stories out there, but what I said is 100% factual. It's a routine process here. He did not break a law, that's why he wasn't arrested. NYC's long gun permits are local administrative codes. One cannot be arrested for them. Since the gun was inside the home, he can't even receive a criminal court summons, IE, a ticket. This is why technically an upstate FFL can sell a long gun to a city resident who doesn't possess a NYC rifle shotgun permit (good luck finding one who will).
So again,
As long as the DV checks out (I doubt this stemmed from a DV crime as then someone wouldn't have been in that house due to an OOP), he calls the license division, gets his permit reinstated, license division edits voucher to allow release, he goes to property clerk (want the address?) and picks it up.
I don't talk out of my ass on here like many others do.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
You do talk out of your ass, because I know for a fact this is not true. When they ask you to surrender your firearms, they will routinely lie to you implying it's not a big deal and you will get everything back without a problem once the issue is resolved, but it never happens that way. I know a number of people who gone through this.
Maybe they should do as you described, BUT THEY DO NOT.
Well I tried. You're wrong, refuse to admit it, and anything you've said or will say on this matter is pure stupidity.
I wouldn't argue with you if I didn't know this for a fact.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Your'e thinking of your other favorite city, Moscow, but take heart, with an avowed communist as mayor they'll get there.
Robin
Robin
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
Isn't illegal firearm possession, regardless of whether it's constitutional or not, a felony in NYS? How is it not arrest-able?
A rifle is not a firearm.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Mine are.
Robin
Robin
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
This happens in my area and there is no gun registration."A verbal dispute between a husband and wife prompted the visit from the Domestic Violence officers, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation."
Policing marriages?
Some Niagara county judge said it’s ok to do. Now they need to take this to trial about gun registrations in nyc.
2.1.3 Rifle. A rifle is a firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder and designed to use the energy of
an explosive in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled barrel for each single pull
of the trigger.11 A rifle subject to the NFA has a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
In NYS law a firearm is a pistol or an AW. Possession of a firearm (as defined by NYS law) without a pistol permit is a felony. Possession of a rifle or shotgun (outsideof NYC) is not so regulated.
from NYS penal law section 265.00
Shoots100
.44 mag
Years ago, my good friends father who WAS a Deputy Sheriff in another state didn't remove a 30/30 hunting rifle after responding to a domestic call, because the male was a good buddy of another officer in the dept.
Later that night they were called to the same address because of shots fired.
The friendly guy started drinking, then killed his wife + dog.
Waited for the the sheriffs to arrive and killed my friends father too.
Death by Cop ensued.
My friends father would've given you the shirt off his back if you needed it,without hesitation.
Was a rabid 2A supporter too.
Now he's gone and my friend + his family are fucked up forever.
You can buy another rifle.
SJC
Later that night they were called to the same address because of shots fired.
The friendly guy started drinking, then killed his wife + dog.
Waited for the the sheriffs to arrive and killed my friends father too.
Death by Cop ensued.
My friends father would've given you the shirt off his back if you needed it,without hesitation.
Was a rabid 2A supporter too.
Now he's gone and my friend + his family are fucked up forever.
You can buy another rifle.
SJC
Wherever this came from (you offered no context), it does not apply to NY.
That’s a federal law which would apply to anyone in the country.
I have a news for you. Firearms can be misused by just about anyone in infinite number of situations. Citing a tragic example to justify gun control is what gun grabbers do. Not even fudds, GUN GRABBERS.
The last thing I would want is corrupt self-serving scum at NYPD firearms control unit assessing if I pose any potential risk to their precious pensions. They don't give a rat's ass about me or my rights.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Actually it gets vouchered as evidence. The cops( individual officers) don’t keep it. You will hear about it getting melted down into something like manhole covers in a year or two.
E the massive
.308 Win
That will explode and kill somebody.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
The easy answer is don’t put someone in a position to make that choice.
Those “tragic” examples happen all to often where the cop cuts a break to the person and it comes back to haunt him. Not all involving firearms.
The officers didn’t search the house for a gun. The wife put them in that spot . He put them in that spot.
Imagine if airborne got that “job “ and was canned for not taking the rifle. Who do you think they would replace him with. Probably someone who would search for those guns etc etc.
If the guy had renewed permit, he probably would still have the gun especially if Airborne has responded to the job. Many others would have taken the gun for safekeeping even with the permit.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The problem is because most cops do so, they are in that position. Now imagine if all cops said, "no!" Every single one of them. Every single one of the new ones too. It'll never happen but nonetheless it could like I would hope it would if it ever got to Nazi Germany type infringements.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Come back to reality.
We disagree on what the 2nd admendment allows and restrictions here on this forum and we are “gun guys”. Some here are constitutional carry and others are shall issue.
What do think the real world is like then. There are some who are anti gun, some don’t care either way.
There are plenty of anti gun people to take them. It’s an honest disagreement among reasonable people. Remember that until Heller most non gun guys believed it was a collective right and many still believe Heller does not apply outside the home.