Woman detained for wearing a bikini - Myrtle Beach, SC police Department

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Elwood said:
Twisting my words does not help your argument
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I am not twisting your words. You imply her ass looks nicer then his stomach. That may be so, but he will be able to expose his ass just like her. It's a stupid argument.
 
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spat said:
Social pressure is far from empty words. It tends to be more effective than law actually.

When was the last time you heard a white guy use the N word ? It's not illegal, but the social pressure is enormous.

There are very very few things that should have the power of government behind them. Regulating personal expression is absolutely not one of them.
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What is she expressing?
 
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livingston said:
It is a whole new world out there folks .

Was on a grand jury and an early 20 's male sent one to a 14 year old ,, He is in prison now we think... But what was taken away from the case .. Most girls today are asked for a nude photo from boys they both know and don't know and many have had "questionable photos sent to them..
Not uncommon for an early teen to have received one and photos are passed around like crazy...Perhaps not nudes but thong photos ... All the time .
Back in my time the best day of the year was the boy scout paper drive .. .. Playboys never made it to the collection center .. Today it is sexting.in high school. even middle school. . The woman that complains about a thong that her 14 year old son sees on the beach has not a clue what he has on his cell phone . ..
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This is what I have tried and failed to explain on numerous occasions around here. The ubiquitous phone and camera and internet is a potential grenade given to kids, and many do not navigate it well, causing long term damage to themselves and others.

Anyway are there any more vids of Sam or...?
 
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spat said:
If that's the price of freedom, so be it.
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That's not a price of freedom. It has no impact on anything except indecent exposure. SCOTUS is not going to strike down any gun laws because she is pushing public decency envelope. In fact this only helps anti-gunners who argue that people will do the same with guns if we let them.
 
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Mosinitis said:
That's not a price of freedom. It has no impact on anything except indecent exposure. SCOTUS is not going to strike down any gun laws because she is pushing public decency envelope. In fact this only helps anti-gunners who argue that people will do the same with guns if we let them.
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There is a lot more to freedom than gun laws.
 
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Personally I hate when underwear wadges between my buttocks. It's a big turn off when I see this on a woman. I have been spoiled with sexy lingerie, stockings and gutter belts. Even women in burlesque pictures of 100 years ago looked sexier than this.
 
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spat said:
What freedom of yours ?

You think you have a right not to be offended ?
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I already explained how pushing the envelope of one freedom can impact another freedom where this will be used as an argument against. It's a major hurdle in pro-gun movement. "If we allow to own this, what's going to stop people from owning that" is a common anti-gun argument.
 
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Listen. In Russia, they allow thongs. I just looked it up. A google search of Russian beaches showed many women dressed just like this girl. If it’s okay there in Mother Russia, why are you trying to suppress our freedoms here in America.
 
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Listen. In Russia, they allow thongs. I just looked it up. A google search of Russian beaches showed many women dressed just like this girl. If it’s okay there in Mother Russia, why are you trying to suppress our freedoms here in America.
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I don't care what they allow in Russia. It's the American cops who are challenging her attire.
 
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And they are being more unreasonable than the KGB. That’s what we have issue with.
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KGB, FBI, CIA or Abver have nothing to do with this? I see you put on your idiot hat, didn't take long. From what I see in that video with part of the conversation being erased, I can't conclude there was misconduct on the part of these cops. Maybe this attire is normal in public in Puerto Rico, not here.
 
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Mosinitis said:
KGB, FBI, CIA or Abver have nothing to do with this? I see you put on your idiot hat, didn't take long. From what I see in that video with part of the conversation being erased, I can't conclude there was misconduct on the part of these cops. Maybe this attire is normal in public in Puerto Rico, not here.
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I’m not from Puerto Rico. I was born here. Regardless, the cop says exactly what he’s there for. He quotes a law about nudity that has nothing to do with the girl at all. And here in the US, people dress like that in beaches all the time. Including Puerto Rico which is a US territory. Anyway, take a drive down to Jone’s beach in Long Island. Go to the Jersey Shore. Just got back from Florida on the Gulf Coast. Many thongs on the beach.
 
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I’m not from Puerto Rico. I was born here. Regardless, the cop says exactly what he’s there for. He quotes a law about nudity that has nothing to do with the girl at all. And here in the US, people dress like that in beaches all the time. Including Puerto Rico which is a US territory. Anyway, take a drive down to Jone’s beach in Long Island. Go to the Jersey Shore. Just got back from Florida on the Gulf Coast. Many thongs on the beach.
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Bullshit. I live not far from several beaches. I don't see women wearing a thong. If they did, I would have noticed. There may be a few exceptions, but it's not as common as you mislead.
 
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Mosinitis said:
Bullshit. I live not far from several beaches. I don't see women wearing a thong. If they did, I would have noticed. There may be a few exceptions, but it's not as common as you mislead.
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Well, lake beaches in the sticks don’t account for miles of beaches up and down the 2 coasts and the Gulf. But since you say that it doesn’t happen, then you have spoken.

I’m more inclined to believe what I have seen in real beaches and actual pictures of US beaches despite your anger and the taking of things personally.

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Saltwater60 said:
While you are correct in one sense but would you do something that your boss told you to do was morally wrong or illegal?
Also keep in mind that first cop was a dick. Maybe she was horrible to him and acted like a moron but we will never know because of the timing of the video start time.
I think most don’t blame them for enforcing the law it was how the first interaction went. All they would have to do is say look we received a complaint about the way your dressed and here’s what we need you to do going forward. Here’s the penal code and you can read it for yourself. Any questions? Then clarify if there were questions.
I enforce government regulations on food businesses and this is how I handle it. I find it’s 100% effective because laws/regulations are generally written very vague. The person in the beach is right where does it stop and what is ok and what isn’t? I’m sure partly they were being jerks but they wanted to know what they could and couldn’t do same as the people I regulate. They just want to comply 99% of the time. The first cop failed at that miserable. Also the fact about Speedo’s was completely ignored. I do believe they got a complaint but I also believe they went to this beach dressed like that numerous times before and that other cops walked by them earlier and said nothing. This is why laws can’t be picked and chosen but laws like this often are because there’s not victim to speak of.

But yes overall I will agree they were just following orders but what if those orders include kicking down your door because you’re a gun owner to remove said doors? Would you be on here complaining then?
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I was never complaining, I was asking why others were complaining.

If they kicked down my door because of guns,,,,I would go above the ones who did it and ask their boss why this was necessary,, if I felt there was no reason for what they did. Would I be pissed,,,of course I would but I would still go above the people that were doing what they were ordered to do. Why should I bother with the employee when I can speak to the boss. If I'm not satisfied after speaking to the boss then I take the government to court.

Whats the point in arguing with the cops? There isnt one! Arguing with the cops is beyond stupid.

In this video obviously you guys are saying there wasnt written law,,,,guess I missed that part because I thought thats what the cop was showing them with the info booklet he had.

If there was no law written by the politicians that was spelled out in the booklet he showed them,,,,,then I take back pretty much everything I said in the post,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,though I still disagree with arguing with the cops, its a waste of time 99% of the time and you would be better served arguing/talking to the ones above them.
 
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