Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
I figure mail it in 5 or 6 times just to be sure, then send it certified letter, then mail it in a box. I'm an engineer, I'm paid to be anal retentive and redundant about things.
NEWSFLASH: Pistol Permit Recertification
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Gunner57
.223 Rem
According to the SCOPE summary...
"26) Once submitted, the recertification application will be checked against the following data bases:
- NCIC’s
- MHL/946
- Orders of probation
- DMV
- Parole
- Probation
- NYS wanted and missing"
NY Pistol Permit Re-certification Process - S.C.O.P.E. Dedicated to the Protecting Your Civil Rights
Some more juicy details listed there
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
does that mean ANY LEO nation wide can access this information???
what if the PP holder is driving his/her spouse's car? does the LEO know if the car is stolen? Is the criminal held to the same standard
4excal
.338 Win Mag
fartgamer
.223 Rem
AFAIK.
They already know your DL info if you've ever done an amendment. Info was sent in by your FFL, or at the very least on his 4473 form.
Don't recertify they'll probably pull your DL as well.
E the massive
.308 Win
Bingo. Total control.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
So is anyone planning on not complying at all? Like never? What do you suppose the consequences will be? Do you think maybe if you simply decide no to comply and go and buy a pistol they will turn you down when you go to amend it? Seems like a bunch of systems have to work together to catch that.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
I can see this database getting hacked ..
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Tied to DMV .. ok so I'm driving my friends car or my moms who does not have a PP .. this will really work out well .. F this State ..
OR, what happens if someone is using your vehicle and they think that person has a PP but doesn't ? Sometimes misunderstandings can get out of hand.
I see no good from any of this, but I suppose this is the end game to just have everyone on as many list as possible, so much for privacy and all for exercising your rights.
What would be of concern to me is if a member of my family, or perhaps a friend I loan it to is driving a vehicle registered to me, and the officer gets antsy or worse when they stop them with the vehicle being registered to me, a CCW holder.
I can see the potential for something bad happening, even though I think it is a remote possibility.
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Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
I wonder if Andy will be re-certified........
.......crazy?
.......crazy?
OwnTheRide
.223 Rem
Wait 'til you see phase 2.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
didnt ncic just tell a state to piss off ... whoops
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The consequences will be revocation of your license resulting in the confiscation of handguns and if I'm not mistaken the confiscation of long guns as well according to the Unsafe Act. (Not sure about the long guns but most definitely your handguns would be lost.)
If you want to keep and carry your guns, this is not something worth fighting in my opinion.
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i don't care until January 31st, 2018. A lot can (hopefully) happen in a year, especially with the Country under new management.
And even if nothing changes, I will not play their stupid game one second sooner than I legally HAVE to.
FUAC you sorry excuse for oxygen waste.
And even if nothing changes, I will not play their stupid game one second sooner than I legally HAVE to.
FUAC you sorry excuse for oxygen waste.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Just curious since this seems like it will really back people into a corner. Unlike unsafe there seems to really be no way around it. They actually know exactly what you have. I think this would be great to show people that think it's a conspiracy that registration leads to confiscation. It's exactly that. You've registered all your pistols and now if you don't "re-certify" your PP then you can have your pistols confiscated because they know exactly what you have. But there is a whole year left and we might be seeing youge changes with the new administration. I think the people already rushing to do this are a bit nuts.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
the issue is quite easy to resolve.....move. But then again, in Pa you have to renew every 5 years, Florida.....Utah.....How many states have to renew? and how many states charge you to renew?
It won't be long before New Yorkistan charges us to renew, after all it's free money. And thats what this state is all about. Wealth redistribution
You want to change something in this state, the easiest way is to move.
It won't be long before New Yorkistan charges us to renew, after all it's free money. And thats what this state is all about. Wealth redistribution
You want to change something in this state, the easiest way is to move.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
I'll recertify, by mail, at the last minute, multiple times, and I don't have a CCW. I intend to fill the form with BS information just to swamp the department with BS.
Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
No way around it but I see nothing good coming out of this. How many cases have there been with people being admitted to hospitals then having their permits revoked because someone "accidentally" said they were involuntarily permitted? Or how about the guy when unSAFE first got passed who had the State Police knocking on his door because he was prescribed anti-anxiety medication? That last one got resolved but how many people are going to lose ALL of their guns (hand and long) because of something like that?
fartgamer
.223 Rem
They know what we have, they already have our DL info. I agree with Wille.
You'll never be able to get a new handgun, legally. Walk into your PP office with amendment papers after the NYSP notified your county clerk you failed to recert and let us know how that works out.
You'll never be able to get a new handgun, legally. Walk into your PP office with amendment papers after the NYSP notified your county clerk you failed to recert and let us know how that works out.
islandman
9mm
Confiscation of your long guns as well, even though you do not need a permit for them NOW. The state views you unfit to have any gun when they deny your re-certification.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You'll recertify one way or another, now or later unless you move.I'll renew my permit when it expires, as per the contact I signed when I got it.
islandman
9mm
The country is under the same management, just a different style of managing. In regards to that having any say in what the Socialist State of New York does, it doesn't to an extent. We have the same Governor, which we could have voted out of office, but that is a totally different thread. If a National Reciprocity is passed and signed into law, that will have to be followed. Our woes, our rights being violated everyday will continue in this State.
I will repeat what I have been saying, even at the Canadian Forum, the state and local level are where you have more influence. When the right people are voted in, people who value all of our liberties, it makes a difference. Instead of a push for a national reciprocity, we should have a nationwide push for constitutional carry. Movements in states where there is still a permit system, a major movement.
In regards to adhering to the Princess's demand that we re-certify, how about a vast majority of permit holders do not. Then let's see what the gestapo will do, it will be a major PR disaster for the Princess. Draft cards were burnt, we need to take several pages from the anti war demonstrations.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
They will start charging. That "free" college won't pay for itself.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
This is great. Some rookie cop will know who's armed at every stop. What could possibly go wrong? Might as well tell them if stopped now and look like you did it to be a good guy.
Drudge has a link today to an article about moving companies and the busiest states, of which the top three are NJ, IL, and NY. And,... in NY, 2/3rds of the moves are people leaving vs. 1/3 coming here. No surprise to me...